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With all these WR’s on the roster how many do we keep, 6 and a KR/PR?

My prediction. Cooper, DPJ, Moore, Bell, Goodwin, Woods/Weston (1 goes to PS), and Grant as the returner

I think Grant is going to have a hard time making the team. DPJ can return punts and Ford for kickoffs. I agree that we keep 6. I'm not sure about who will be that 6th guy.

j/c,

I see the competition for WR #6 mainly between Grant and Woods (or even a rookie Draft selection) ... assuming Goodwin makes the final 53 (the quarenteed $ will shine more light on this ?) ... I can't see a scenario where Bell gets cut this season.

Good to see nobody will be handed a Job this season
Competition will bring out the best 5 or 6 on Sunday
Felton , Schwartz and Woods I think are goners

I love having so many WR’s going into camp. Alot of competition, should make our WR room that much better.

Bottom line is the FO knew we had a problem at WR and made steps to address it. It’s now up to the coaches and players to make it work. We have an elite talent at QB, but needed to improve the WR room. At first glance, they’ve done that.

They have done as much as possible with what they've worked with. OUTSTANDING job by AB and the analytics team, imho. You know, all of these players were graded out well before FA. This Moore trade screams that the team always has his feelers on the pulse of the NFL. And even the misses didn't slow them down; they had plans A-Z all laid out.

Elijah Moore was a big addition. I feel a lot more settled about that position group. I didn’t know him hardly at all before Wednesday, lol, but I’ve been reading up on Eli and he’s a speedster who’s proven he can produce.

WE don't have the obvious weaknesses that we had when last season began. Our FO saw them and aggressively addressed them. Good job!!

I agree lampy. As a SEC fan I watched him a good bit when he was at Ole Miss. Very exciting player. He is going to thrive on the shorter horizontal routes. I expect to see some significant YAC

Name the 4th best Wr on the team now? And I would assume Cooper and Elijah Moore were in the top 3,
One more for the top 3 and then who is the 4th best Wr on the team?

Probably = Bell, my first thought, or
Woods and then Bell my 2nd thought and then
DPJ could be the 4th best but either way ..
Well
Mar@uise Goodwin, when they needed anyone who could catch, would have made a lot more sense if they didn't have Elijah Moore,

but if you look at it as a career, ten or nine years, Goodwyn hasn't been very good, only more than 3 tds a couple times if more than one,
and only more than twenty nine catches on a year once iirc. 'Taylor Gabriel could do that and couldn't wait to show him the door,... tackled at the one yd line club.

so Goodwyn could be the 4th best but you'd expect Bell or Woods to produce more than twenty nine and 3 tds if you really played them, so the thing with Schwartz is even last year they were playing that guy off the streets and he had a couple of catches instead of Schwartz.

Who can say Woods isn't the 3rd best Wr on the team if only he had more opportunities
Who can say Felton isn't?
Cooper Moore, DPJ, Bell and Woods then Grant,
pretty obvious ^ if M. Goodwyn wasn't in the picture, and Goodwyn, really didn't have more than twenty nine and three in most years of a nine or ten year career.
I think preliminary I'd guess

Cooper, Moore, DPJ, Bell, Woods and Grant, Felton as RB #4, everyone else to the practice s@uad.

Most likely traded, DPJ, ?
Most likely to add on if DPJ were traded, Schwartz, then Goodwyn, or recency bias would flip that.

Cooper Moore, Goodwyn, Bell, Woods, and Grant, with Felton as RB #4 and DPJ traded for value.
I don't say it's right or wrong
but I would say it would fit analytics' brand. They have been trying to use the media to overhype DPJ since the start of camp 2022, maybe it was 202I.

But DPJ returns kicks =can't trade him.
But Grant is supposed to be able to return better, if healthy = you can trade DPJ.
and Felton = option 2 at returner next to either Grant or DPJ.

If DPJ went for a 2nd or Ist round pick, oh boy just think of the offseason trophe the analytics group could pat itself on the back with. after drafting DPJ originally in the 6th round.

My guess is that the Cooper, Moore, Goodwin, DPJ, and Grant for 5 of the slots. Between Bell and Woods ... one will get stashed on IR at the last cut and the other is #6.

That WR room looks night and day from last year

My guess is Cooper, DPJ, Moore, Goodwin, Bell, and Woods. I would say Weston is in the mix for the 6th spot. One guy who might have a shot and hasn't been mentioned yet is Jaelon Darden.

If I remember correctly, I thought PFF posted on Twitter that Schwartz was graded above average on Special Teams. I am not subscribed to PFF to confirm. If this is correct, Ford and Schwartz could potentially be a duel threat as "gunners". Schwartz may have value.

I made these video clips of a few guys showing ALL targets and catches:

Thanks for those. It was a good football fix. One thing that really stood out was that early on, DPJ made some good catches in traffic, but he wasn't able to get any separation. This improved as the season wore on. The Schwartz video did nothing to help his case.

Thanks Turk. Good stuff.

Thanks for those...

we have 6 spots:

Cooper
DPJ
Moore
Bell
Goodwin
Whoever we draft

I think people are sleeping on Woods. Wasn't he the guy who Watson was throwing to in camp last year? He was playing good until he got hurt.

I agree, and not so much defending Woods. Weston is another guy.

My point is it is way early to say who makes the team and who doesn't. We might have some idea, and probably a good one, but in looking at 4lifes list, I might agree, but wouldn't say Goodwin and Bell are locks.

After Cooper, DPJ, and Moore, who will make the team, I hope it is wide open and performance based and not some other factor involved. Heck, even the mentioned 3 need to show up.

If I was the WR position coach, in the very first meeting with the group, my first words would be: "Welcome. Let me be clear. NOBODY in this room is a lock to make the team".

Then you go from that starting point.

Yeah, Woods could easily crack the roster. Just didnt see much of him outside of TC

The only way for a player to become good is to be given opportunity. Schwartz has been given opportunity. Two years worth, and for whatever reason just hasn't gotten it done. I wonder if a guy like Woods or Weston or someone else is given even half the opportunity Schwartz has enjoyed if one of them could prove out?

To be fair, there is also a chance some of those guys don't know the playbook and look bad in practice and it is human nature to give higher picks a longer look.

Yes, Schwartz has been given a fair opportunity, maybe more than fair. Hasn’t taken advantage of it. Man up or hit the road. Woods is a guy I noticed last season. Not a lot of production but flashed in limited playing time. But he’d have to push a couple guys off the roster.

Just a question: we get Elijah, are we sure DPJ will get a second contract with us? Has he really done enough? I’m not so sure.

Woods will have to make the team by standing out on
Special teams. I never saw anything from him last year
That made me go " wow he is special". Maybe he can play
The slot and steal reps from Bell as Bell didn't show
Alot last year. But adding Moore and Goodwin means
WRs won't be handed jobs this year like years past

I would tend to think that DPJ has done enough. Actually if you look at the stats of both Moore and DPJ in 2021 and 2022 they quite similar with DPJ actually having more total yards and ypc than Moore. DPJ had 61 receptions and 839 receiving yards in 2022 with his ypc being 13.8.

Just wanted to say....a lot of people are down on Bryant....I am not one of them...From what I saw in that video...he rarely dropped an easy pass like Njoku does...in fact most of the drops were with Brisset and the ball was at a very tough angle or poorly placed...some he coulda should a had...but notice that come the Houston Game...he didn't drop a single pass from Watson from then on out except one that was again a real tough angle...possibly a coulda shoulda...but no player is perfect...

I am happy with our TE room...Akins gives us some size in the red zone(and familiarity with Watson) possibly the one thing our TE's didn't really have last year...at least the ones that took the majority of snaps...

Forget Woods. He just ripped up his Achilles.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...95dc3854db4d5d8fc1a48cab3e5dc9&ei=10

Damn.

Woods was going to have a hard time being active on GameDay.
This isn't a loss really. His production was uninspiring.
His career might be more aligned with the XFL anyhow.
But it goes to show these kind of injuries can happen to any WR.
Can you imagine if this happened to Cooper or Moore?

Bad news on woods. I hope he recovers quickly and can return to get another chance

Sorry for Woods, but availability sure comes into play. So does "performance"=Schwartz got 2 years due to speed only, now we have SEVERAL speed guys who perform- he especially better PROVE himself or he can take his act somewhere else.....and I'm sure he'd be signed due to speed.....so what.

But with now having two seasons of NFL film on him, would Schwartz really be signed somewhere else? Not saying he wouldn't be but I'm also not so sure he would be. They've witnessed how well having him on an NFL roster has worked based strictly on his speed.

JMHO, Schwartz has the want to.....he just hasn't shown enough to be on "our" roster with current proven assets- I think some team without "world class speed" would give him another NFL check- I could be wrong.

PS- I think he's gone.

He might, but i basically agree.


My feeling on Schwartz is that guy has had his chance. If other guys on the roster, or even some cut guys, if given the same "chance" would have played better that Schwartz.

I guess at this point it doesn't hurt anything to take him to camp and see what happens, but he is past the point of surviving cuts because he was a top 100 pick. There comes a point where you just have to figure that you win some, you lose some. No big deal at this point. I don't blame GMs for that or hold it against them. What I do hold against them is sticking with a guy too long and cutting other players who would love the chance to show something.