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Yeah, she's right there in the same vein as Karen Carpenter.

Actually, Janis Joplin was a horrible singer. She never did much besides scream into the microphone.






Ok that is your opinion, so the little degrading of someone elses opinion with the little isnt necessary. I really am not much of a Joplin fan but many are. Why would you ask for peoples opinions and then try to criticize them for them?? Oh yeah I remember why.


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While we are talking about the women, Melissa Etheridge has a pretty good rock voice, IMO.




Yes, cant really say I am a fan of her music but Etheridge does have a good voice.


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The reason I used the was because you said "in the same vein" while referring to Karen Carpenter and Janis Joplin. They were two singers with completely different styles, to say the very least. Sorry you misunderstood that.

I wasn't criticizing your opinion, I was offering my opinion of your opinion regarding Joplin as one of rock's greatest vocal talents. Nothing more and nothing less.

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The reason I used the was because you said "in the same vein" while referring to Karen Carpenter and Janis Joplin. They were two singers with completely different styles, to say the very least. Sorry you misunderstood that.

I wasn't criticizing your opinion, I was offering my opinion of your opinion regarding Joplin as one of rock's greatest vocal talents. Nothing more and nothing less.

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I dont remember.

I wasnt comparing their styles at all I was simply bringing up another female singer from that general era. Was Joplin and Carpenter considered rock. Were they more folk singers??

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Grace Slick and Stevie Nicks on the female side.... and the chick from the B-52's.


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Joplin was rock, Carpenter was pop/easy listening. Not even really the same era, or style.

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Some other good female rock singers:

Dora Pesh
Paul Stanley
Lita ford
Kip Winger
Wendy O'Williams

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Eddie Vedder deserves mention, if only because every idiot with mediocre talent seems to emulate him these days.





I am not sure if that was directed at me or not because the You Tube I posted was of Aaron Lewis doing a cover of Black.

Even Eddie Vedder said Aaron Lewis sang it better than he did, but Aaron Lewis and Staind has never tried to emulate Vedder or Pearl Jam.

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.... and the chick from the B-52's.




Kate Pierson, one of my favorite female vocalists.

On an unrelated note, Joe Cocker just came to mind.

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Some other good female rock singers:

Dora Pesh
Paul Stanley
Lita ford
Kip Winger
Wendy O'Williams




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Some other good female rock singers:

Paul Stanley






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Some other good female rock singers:

Dora Pesh
Paul Stanley
Lita ford
Kip Winger
Wendy O'Williams





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Kip and Paul will be thrilled with the nominations.

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Grace Slick and Stevie Nicks on the female side....




Ditto. I always thought that Ann Wilson from Heart had an incredible voice as well.

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knock'in on your back door, without any clue of what the actual meaning of the song is.





LOL....Almost forgot to ask.....what is really knock'en at Sweet Lucy & Nancy's back door.......

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Ditto. I always thought that Ann Wilson from Heart had an incredible voice as well.






& her sister nancy always had an incredible.....well....

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Eddie Vedder deserves mention, if only because every idiot with mediocre talent seems to emulate him these days.





I am not sure if that was directed at me or not because the You Tube I posted was of Aaron Lewis doing a cover of Black.

Even Eddie Vedder said Aaron Lewis sang it better than he did, but Aaron Lewis and Staind has never tried to emulate Vedder or Pearl Jam.

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No, it wasn't directed at you...and I didn't mean Staind...I'm not a particular fan of Staind but I feel they at least hold credibility...I was thinking along the lines of Nickelback or Creed or any of the other ninety bands that I think are all the same.




Ok wasnt sure, thanks, my feelings were hurt for a second

I kind of agree with you on the Nickleback, Creed thing. Though I do enjoy some of the Nickleback songs. I was kind of more thinking of all the Seattle ands that came out right after Pealr Jam hit it big. The Meat Puppets, Gin Blossoms and those type of bands.


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Ann Wilson has some serious pipes!


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Old School, I'd have to go with Freddy. A few years ago Elton John and Axl Rose had to do a duet of Bohemian Rhapsody, probably because they wouldn't be able to pull off at least one part of the song by themselves.

Present day ... go ahead and laugh, but Dexter Holland of Offspring. Seems like I can never hear a good Offspring cover because nobody can hit the same notes that Dexter does.

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Didn't she once perform in just electric tape or something?


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Present day ... go ahead and laugh, but Dexter Holland of Offspring. Seems like I can never hear a good Offspring cover because nobody can hit the same notes that Dexter does.




To each his own I guess because that guys voice gets on my nerves.


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Lots of Queen talk.

Here is Paul Rodgers fronting for Queen, singing the old free song "Wishing Well.

http://www.youtube.com/v/zMg2nhJs8mI&feature=related


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There were rumors a few years back that DeYoung was going to front Queen after his legal issues with Styx.





He could probably do a pretty good job of it, but there isn't anyone out there with the range of Mercury.... Not that I have heard anyway.


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David Clayton-Thomas .... Blood Sweat & Tears

David Kendricks ... The temptations

Shoot how about Marvin Gaye ?

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Joplin was rock, Carpenter was pop/easy listening. Not even really the same era, or style.



Birth name Karen Anne Carpenter
Born March 2, 1950(1950-03-02)
New Haven, Connecticut
Died February 4, 1983 (aged 32)
Downey, California
Genre(s) Pop
Years active 1965–1983
Label(s) A&M
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Richard Carpenter
Website Richard and Karen Carpenter

Birth name Janis Lyn Joplin
Born January 19, 1943(1943-01-19)
Port Arthur, Texas, U.S.
Died October 4, 1970 (aged 27)
Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Genre(s) Psychedelic rock, acid rock, blues-rock, hard rock
Occupation(s) Singer, songwriter, arranger
Instrument(s) Vocals, guitar, maracas
Years active 1963 - 1970
Label(s) Columbia
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acts Big Brother & the Holding Company


Really ?looks like they both started in the mid 60s.



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I just think of Janice Joplin from the sixties and the Carpenters from the 70's and 80's. It's just my recollection, I really didn't research it. I'm sure you did, cause you LOVE being right. Good for you!

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Didn't she once perform in just electric tape or something?


Actually,I think she performed with just shaving cream all over her body.


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OK, this thread is going all over the place.

To truly determine or name a "Best Vocalist" some guidelines should be stated.

Because I'm sorry, when I think of good vocalists, Janis Joplin really did not have a good voice, she had great songs, but have her since a Whitney Houston tune and you'd thing Roseann Barr was doing the national anthem again.

Eddy Vedar(sp?) as well, really doesn't have what I would consider a good voice, he sings his songs well, but his voice isn't all that appealing.

I would consider a good vocalist as someone who has a decent range, good solid pitch, and the ability to sing most any song and make it sound good, and even more so, do it without effects and still sound good.


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I just think of Janice Joplin from the sixties and the Carpenters from the 70's and 80's. It's just my recollection, I really didn't research it. I'm sure you did, cause you LOVE being right. Good for you!




You are correct Jules, Joplin had her hits in the 60's....whereas the Carpenters had most of their hits in the 70's.

No research needed.

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I just remember that one died from eating pills and one died from not eating



Can we add Mama Cass for the Trifecta??

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I'm glad you edited, it didn't make sense the first time.

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yeah, I always get Mama Cass & Karen Carpenter confused


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Yeah. They were both, well, um, let's see.......white, yeah, that's it.

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didn't Mama Cass die from choking on a chicken bone, she also had a very rare blood type to, I think it was called ragu.

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hell, they all look alike to me.


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Jim Morrison

Was he the best just in terms of voice? No, but we're talking rock n roll here. It's all about how you sing it not how you sound in terms of how well you hit notes.

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I just think of Janice Joplin from the sixties and the Carpenters from the 70's and 80's. It's just my recollection, I really didn't research it. I'm sure you did, cause you LOVE being right. Good for you!





Well if you dont know about something doesnt it make sense to research it??

Actually as far as being right, I think you are. Joplin passed in 1970 so she definetly wasnt from 1970s. Though Carpenter started in 65 she was a drummer I think at the beginning. I would ay as a singer Carpenters fame came in the 70s.

SO THERE I ADMITTED IT YOU ARE RIGHT


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Two that came to my mind right away were Chris Cornell and Axl Rose.

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