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I was actually considering starting a similar thread, but it was more complaining about silly things. Gray nose hairs, my ears being the only fertile ground for new hair, the eyebrows! damn, I could weave a wig, etc...


I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It started with teasing back and forth between my wife and I. It's become a slow realization that we both are "slipping" cognitively. Nothing I'm worried about, just the simple remembering discussions from day to day. I'm in my mid-fifties, she's soon to be 50. It's easy for a 'guy' to say, "eh, I never pay more than half-attention to her mumbo-jumbo anyway', and brush it off. But there is more to it... like things that you know you are supposed to remember but still forget. She has been forgetting complete conversations that are less than 72 hours old. I'm actually considering nootropics in addition to more mental exercises.

Definitely having a few psychological issues with my own mortality, need to 'get my head straight' in more ways than one.

At a break at work so don’t have time to get into it… but my dad is starting to show signs… I’m heading home to Ohio this summer to see him and have discussions with my siblings on how to move forward as his dementia likely progresses.
Generally speaking, dementia isn’t typical in our family but…

A lot of the women on my Dad's side of the family get dementia/alzheimers. I have one copy of the gene, so I have an increased chance of getting it. Sucks.

Stay active/get exercise
Exercise your brain
Eat healthy - no junk food, whole/clean food
Take supplements

That's my strategy to stay young and keep a young brain.

I retired in 2019. I turn 66 tomorrow. I try and keep busy/active as much as I can.
However, in the last year or so I've developed an oops "forgot this, forgot that, etc, thing."

Go downstairs for something from the kitchen......

20% of the time I get there......
.....hmmm, now what did I come down here for?

.......go back upstairs......sit down, and, oh yea, that's right.....

Head back down.....

Other things as well. "Drat, gotta look for my phone again." I must look for my phone 3-4 times a day.

"Now where did I put that thing"???

Happy, happy joy, joy! Thought I would tell you twice so you remember one LOLetc. Helps me. Happy birthday, and many happy returns! I do this too. Do not weaken just yet.

I take all the tests every year. Sometimes I remember all 3 random words, sometimes not. I think mostly because I don't care all that much about the test.

I do have some problem with recall, but nothing I consider a big issue. We all at some point have that problem to a degree. Face it, the longer you live, the more you have to recall.

As for losing friends, I hear you, but, in the big scheme, 72- 92, it's 20 years but in reality, it is a couple blinks of the eye. You just never know.

Don't worry about it my friend. That isn't to say to ignore things that can be corrected to some degree. We all reach a point where we actually face mortality. For me it was at the point where contemporaries of mine were passing away from somewhat "normal" things and not freak accidents. Usually in your 40's somewhere.

None of us come out of this alive, so once you grasp that, you are better off. We aren't facing something that billions of other people haven't faced.

I look at facing mortality as an awaking. We face several of those in our life, and that is one of the most important ones. Rather than live with the fear/unknown in that, find the peace in that.

Life is energy, and at least according to some smart people, energy never goes away. The conservation of energy. The isolated system as we know, the human body, moves on. To what? That is a conversation for another thread.

I can see it starting with my dad as well. Just a little slipping with memory (especially stuff he SHOULD know). I also worry about inactivity and not a lot of brain exercising, which I would imagine makes it more difficult to overcome the aging process

I personally can recommend Tai Chi as you age. Breathing helped, BP down, low-key workout, just upside in a lot of directions. Balance is vital. Check it out some. For me it had measurable benefits on medical tests to complement anecdotal impressions I could offer. We offer free classes at a community senior service center.

I used to really dread growing older and aging. But it is just a number. As I had in the working out every single day at home and in the gym. Trying to eat salads each and every single day. Take vitamins and medication.

I just hit 60 today. Age may be just a number, but it's getting bigger every year.

I think my work is a big benefit. It's a full brain and body workout 5,6 days/wk. It may look like nothing when you see us on TV, but the stuff we do is very physically demanding. 2.5 hours of nonstop exertion. Playing quiet passages are twice as painful as playing loud ones. You need a strong core to sit upright (on the front 6" of the seat, bent forward at 15°) for 30-minute stretches of time. There is a cardio element, as well: the most physically active playing is almost always at the end of those 45-60 minute long pieces (da big boffo finish). There have been times when I've finished the last 2-3 minutes of a Mahler or Beethoven symphony in oxygen debt.

Brain scans of people who listen to music display lit-up cognitive areas of the brain like almost no other stimuli. Brain scans of people who are making music light up like fireworks.

I have noticed some slight decline in my reflexes over the past 2 years. Example: we play thousands of notes per week. Occasionally, we'll choose a fingering pattern that leads to awkward moments. I used to just jet to a safe orientation spot and carry on my merry way. I plan more now, and improvise less.

This thing we do is all fast-twitch stuff, and the flow of data is nonstop. Produce, or get out.

A couple years back, a friend asked me when I'll retire. My bottom line: "When I can't represent the brand like I always have." I'm not there yet, but for the first time ever, I'm starting to look at it as not some abstract point near the horizon. Two weeks ago, I played a short program with some colleagues at the municipal Youth Treatment Center (read: 'juvie lockup'). At the end of the joint, the kids were allowed to come up and talk with us. One of the teens who approached me asked me how long I'd been playing. It took a second or two to actually do the math. "I've been playing for 57 years." *boom*

This has been more than a hobby, interest, or avocation. It's been more than a means to a paycheck. It's been at the core of who I am since I reached the age of self-awareness. And the thought of not having this as central to my life is absolutely terrifying. This thing I play has been married to me since I was 9 years old. This thing that vibrates in me has been there since birth.

My biggest fear about aging isn't getting old. My biggest fear is becoming irrelevant.

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If I could give any general advice in this thread, it would be this: pick up the musical instrument of your choice, and take some lessons. Lessons from a real musician who specializes in your chosen voice. You don't even have to be good at it; the benefit is in the doing of it. And if you happen to catch fire and really start to take off, the benefits go through the roof.


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I suppose maybe I've been looking at this entire thing in a way that many don't. I'm simply not that worried about it. I am somewhat more mindful of taking care of myself than I was when I was younger. I think with age we do become more reminded of our mortality and gain knowledge. But I can't say that most of those lifestyle changes were of design in and of themselves. I quit drinking alcohol but more for the simple fact I lost interest in it and no longer enjoyed it the way I used to. Same with weed. It wasn't some big plan or some great need I felt to improve my life, extend my life or something I made the decision to do because of health issues. I still smoke tobacco but no more than half a pack a day.

I was always somewhat of a healthy eater to at least one extent or another. I little more so now that I'm older and when I was young than from say my late 20's to late 40's. Once again it's not really something I obsess over or plan every meal around. I feel I exercise enough but am not what one would consider avid in a work out program or have a daily routine of exercise.

I guess I'm just more interested in living while I'm alive than worrying about dying or living in a manner I don't care for to stay alive longer. Spending time focusing and worrying about what might happen if I don't get every test medicine can provide, not taking the latest fish oil supplement and seeking out shark cartilage at GNC isn't who I am nor what I want to be. That's not the things I wish to be concerned about at this point in life. And I'm not sure living until I'm 85 or 90 while I watch all of my close friends, family and siblings die around me is something I find so appealing. I've already lost enough of them at this point already. Just a few days ago I found out another friend who I grew up with and are still close friends with today has stage four lung cancer.

I will simply do as I do now. I will take somewhat reasonable care of myself. Try to avoid obviously dangerous situations whenever practical and let the chips fall where they may. I've had a good life. I've reached the point where I don't have to fight tooth and nail to survive and struggle every day to do so. I've reaped many rewards for what I think overall has been a life well spent. And I can't think of what I would have or could have done to change that. We all have had life's lessons to learn and yes, I've had my share of those. But for the most part I've came out of the other side not much worse for the wear and tear.

So that's the way my days left on this earth will continue. Over the span of my life I've determined from my experiences in my time on this earth that it's never bad to make a plan but it's always bad to think that every plan you make is going to work. While I know it's not always the norm I've witnessed people that worked so hard to live a healthy life die early and I've watched those who have put themselves through hell live long. While I don't use that as a gauge for how I take care of myself I've learned that a lot of times the length of your life is far more about your genetics than how you choose to live.

So I'm going to keep eating red meat, have a little cake here and there, not get crazy with vitamins and supplements and just live while not staying busy worrying about what's ahead. Because what will come will come. There is no cheating death. Sure you can possibly delay it. But as I said earlier, I'm not so sure sticking around so long I have to bear witness to most all of my friends and family dying around me first is such an appealing reason to fight for what will amount to nothing more than a short extension in the grand scheme of things. A lot of things are simply out of my control and for some reason I've become fine with that.

I am reminded that I am in my 50's after a day of strenuous yard work. But overall, I really don't think about it other than I remember thinking people in their 50's and 60's seemed like the cliché grey haired grandparent stereotypes when I was younger, which is not true.

I want to reiterate something I brought up this past summer. If you're contemplating a knee replacement, do it now. I put it off for 2 years, and it really hampered my ability to work out and be active. I had the surgery last June, and I'm still trying to get my cardio and flexibility back to where it was. The knee is doing great, I'm able to squat, climb ladders, bike, etc. The rest of my body has to catch up to the new kid on the block. The older you get, the harder it is to get it back.....there's definitely a point of no return. At my age, you can't just let things go.

jfan???

Curious.....

Sounds like you had only 1 knee replaced?

I had the option of having only "one" done or "both" done at the same time. I opted for both at the same time.

Knowing the surgery would be painful I figured I wouldn't have twice the pain having both knees replaced at the same as opposed to just one. I'd just be in pain.

Best decision I've ever made.

I agree. The slow flow of movement is a stress killer. I am a type A junkie for conflict for most of my life. Feeling your center, moving energy, and feeling balanced afterward surprised me. I also have lifted and been active in sports; I was amazed how this art "stacks the body" using it and stretching to give you more workout than I believed was possible. I miss it a lot after a medical operation, but despite the mystery it paid me some lasting benefits. Can't do it anymore as far as the forms, but the breathing stays with you. Recommended once again.

LOL.

I was going to say it might be a number, but we are talking about aging.

Happy Birthday!

Thank you.

I only had one done, my other one's in decent shape. I have the utmost respect for those that have had both knees replaced at the same time. I can't imagine how you got around those first few weeks. I was using the other knee to do the heavy lifting on stairs, getting up from the toilet and whatnot.

Man. If I had time I’d come join you.

That’s right at the busiest time of my year. I have art heading to Burning Man at the end of August, and another large scale commission due by mid October. I’m not even sure if I’ll have time to fish locally during this fall’s steelhead run.

I read this thread while I was suspended and wanted to reply, but I forgot what I wanted to say.

I was just making a lame joke.

j/c

Just something I thought I would share. It's not a message I promote or advocate in any way but I did find it interesting.....

Warren Buffett eats McDonald's for breakfast, drinks 5 Cokes a day, and devours cookies and ice cream. Here are the investor's 11 best quotes about his iconic diet.

Warren Buffett may be 92 and one of the richest people on the planet, but he still has a child's taste for fast food, sugary sodas, and sweet treats.

The famed investor and Berkshire Hathaway CEO counts burgers, hot dogs, and ice cream among his favorite foods. He munches on McDonald's for breakfast, guzzles five cans of Coke every day, and demolishes cookies and chocolates.

Fittingly, Berkshire owns See's Candies and Dairy Queen, while Coca-Cola and Kraft Heinz are among the largest holdings in its $300 billion stock portfolio.

Buffett has defended his eating habits — and voiced his disgust at vegetables and other healthy options — during interviews, in his yearly letters to shareholders, and at Berkshire's annual meetings.

Here are Buffett's 11 best quotes about his diet, lightly edited for length and clarity:

1. "I've gotten to 92 with the habits of a 6-year-old. So far, it's working. Charlie's 99 and he doesn't eat any better than I do. I found everything I like to eat by the time I was six. Why should I fool around with all these other foods? If somebody told me I would live an extra year if I ate nothing but broccoli and a few other things all my life, I would say, 'Take that year off the end of my life and let me eat what I like to eat.'" (CNBC)

2. "I think happiness makes an enormous amount of difference in terms of longevity. And I'm happier when I'm drinking Coke or eating hot fudge sundaes or hot dogs." (CNBC)

3. "I'm one quarter Coca-Cola. If I eat 2,700 calories a day, a quarter of that is Coca-Cola. I drink at least five 12-ounce servings. I do it everyday. I have three Cokes during the day and two at night." (Fortune)

4. "I checked the actuarial tables, and the lowest death rate is among 6-year-olds. So I decided to eat like a 6-year-old. It's the safest course I can take." (Fortune)

5. "I follow a very simple rule when it comes to food. If a three-year-old doesn't eat it, I don't eat it." ("The Snowball: Warren Buffett and the Business of Life")

6. "Broccoli, asparagus, and Brussels sprouts look to me like Chinese food crawling around on a plate. Cauliflower almost makes me sick. I eat carrots reluctantly. I don't like sweet potatoes. I don't even want to be close to a rhubarb, it makes me retch. My idea of a vegetable is green beans, corn, and peas. I like spaghetti and grilled cheese sandwiches. I'll eat meat loaf but wouldn't order it in a restaurant." ("The Snowball")

7. "During the meeting, Charlie and I will each consume enough Coke, See's fudge and See's peanut brittle to satisfy the weekly caloric needs of a NFL lineman. Long ago we discovered a fundamental truth: There's nothing like eating carrots and broccoli when you're really hungry – and want to stay that way." (2015 letter)

8. "There's a lot to be said about being happy with what you're doing. If I'd been eating broccoli and Brussels sprouts all my life, I don't think I'd live as long. I would approach every meal thinking it's like going to jail or something." (2015 meeting)

9. "When I compare drinking Coca-Cola to something that somebody would sell me at Whole Foods — I don't see smiles on the faces of people at Whole Foods." (2015 meeting)

10. "I like eating the same thing over and over and over again. I could eat a ham sandwich every day for 50 days in a row for breakfast." ("The Snowball")

11. "I don't eat any Chinese food. If necessary, serve me rice and I'll just move it around on my plate, and I'll go back to my room afterward and eat peanuts." ("The Snowball") (This was Buffett's response when Bill and Melinda Gates asked what he liked to eat ahead of a group vacation to China. Buffett made sure to speak up after suffering through a disastrous sushi dinner a few years earlier, and was served hamburgers, french fries and Cherry Coke throughout the trip.)

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I love Egg McMuffins. I have eaten thousands over the years. I was thrilled when McDonalds went to an all day breakfast menu. I could eat them 3 meals a day. I was bummed when they stopped doing that...at least around here they did.

Next to Bacon and Eggs, Egg McMuffins are the greatest innovation in breakfast history.

I could eat bacon and eggs "till the cows come home". And we all know how long it takes cows to walk home.

Gotta go "real butter" on the 4 slices of toast. That's a given/and or mandatory imo.

No doubt, over the years, that meal was a heavy factor in my receiving a an RCA stent due to a 95% blockage.

Eggs are a superfood. Skip the sausage/bacon and repace it with some oatmeal or grits and you have a healthy breakfast.

a few months ago I had eggs and blueberries for breakfast and felt invincible all day

My breakfast weakness are the Hardee's biscuits. They're just so good and the closets I've ever found to home made in fast food. The sausage, egg and cheese is my go to and sometimes they'll run specials like the steak, egg and cheese. If I'm doing fast food for breakfast, which is pretty rare, I'm doing Hardee's.

Hardee's still sell that sausage gravy and biscuits in Tennessee? That's about the last place I've had it, probably ten years ago now. It rivals any sit-down restaurant.

My strange breakfast is my biggest meal of the day. I eat between 3:30 to 4:30 am most mornings.
1 banana
2 peanut butter sandwich with whole wheat bread.
3. Four egg whites
4. 1 oz low or no salt cashews
5. One square of dark chocolate
6 one ounce of baked lays


Ya I need to drop the chips but its my weakness, but it beats the 6 to 8 ounces of regular chips I use to eat every day.

Yes.

In Tennessee, Hardee's is a sit down restaurant. What are you talking about! LOL

Seriously, for breakfast they are packed. Lined up around the building. They must do 90% of their sales in the morning beacuse the rest of day they do zilch.

Well… here we go… I don’t want to get into specifics because I only just found out yesterday and don’t have all the info myself… but… I got a cancer diagnosis from some recent tests that were done. The staging hasn’t been done yet but it is cancer none the less.
My hope is it’s stage one, which in this type of cancer is very curable. If it’s stage two or more my life could get very unfun… or come to a close. I have faith I caught it early.

Once I know more I’ll share more. Anything I can do to help others be proactive in getting screening done.

In the mean time, prayers please.

You have mine.

Wishing you all the best and I will pray for you to have the strength to beat that dreadful disease.

Thanks. Yesterday was rough. It wasn’t the news I had hoped to hear, but when the doctor called me directly I knew it wasn’t going to be good. It’s hard not to be freaked out.
Now off to work I go to take care of terminal patients while I face my own mortality in the back of my mind. Fun.

I can understand, being older.

We all tend to think the worst. Just chill until you know what you know, then deal with it from there.

I am pulling for you.

Said a prayer for you and I will continue, my friend.

Keep your head up and try your best to stay positive. Just imagine a day, soon in the future, when you can brush this off and say "that was close, glad I found out early".

You will certainly be in my prayers. Man, cancer is a tough one. My wife had a huge cancer scare a few years back but it turned out to be benign. That alone was scary enough. I'm not one who posts a lot of personal information on here but if you feel comfortable doing so please keep us updated. Again, you are in my prayers.

You are in my Prayers-

and F*** Cancer

Thanks everyone. I went and talked with my boss this morning. She’s awesome. I know I’ll be supported on that front.
My girlfriend is a hospice nurse too. We work together. She’s a rock. She’s also vegan. I’m in the process of radically changing my diet. I’ve been at it for about a week now as I started, for other reasons, cholesterol, prior to hearing my cancer screen test results. I’m going to do everything in my power nutritionally to help my body heal. Last night I ate beets for the first time as an adult. A hated food as a child. My GF made a really delicious beet salad. I was surprised. Lol

Anyway. Back to work.
Thanks for thinking of me.

Fight that fight and be well.

I'll be praying for you bud.

Prayers on the way. Heal well.

I've been ignoring this thread intentionally, not wanting to think about how old I'm getting..... and then saw your post today. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

We’re mortal. There’s no ignoring it. Putting off regular screening as we age only places us at higher risks for worse outcomes when we finally do get screened, or have symptoms of disease/cancer. And often times by the time you have symptoms things have progressed to a point of deeper concern… and harder to treat.
We only live once. Living in denial of how we age can take years away from our already, in the grander scheme, short lives.
If you’re over 50 you need to get poked and prodded.
Just do it.

Prayers from here Port.....

I've had cancer and they caught it in time. Prostate. Ironically, it was spotted/diagnosed/whatever during a left side hernia mesh install surgery.

My father died of cancer/tumor (brain) in May of 1973, 12 days after I turned 16.

Again, prayers.........!

Port you'll be in my prayers. I was sorry to hear your news. I lost my wife in February of 2022 to cancer and it was awful to see what she went through. Miserable rotten disease. I get pissed every time I hear the word. Miss her every day. Stay strong my friend! I'll be thinking and praying for you. Keep us updated.

Quick update.

They believe they caught it in stage one. I’ll need a CAT scan and an MRI yet to confirm it hasn’t gotten into my lymph system… which could the lead to the liver. If the stage one is confirmed I’ll have to have surgery to remove the area and surrounding tissue. This is all in the best case scenario.
Thanks everyone for the thoughts and prayers.

My duty as a nurse is to say this…
If you’re a male 50 or older, go get your prostate exam and colonoscopy. Don’t put it off. Stop putting it off if you have.
Please be proactive. We never know what could be growing inside us but there are easy measures to check. Do it.

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis Port. They got the bladder cancer out of me, but I have an oncology appointment coming up to check the rest of me too. Pain levels shot way up last August and there are concerns. Good news is, since healing from the bladder procedure, that level is back down a bit, so fingers crossed here too. In June I get another scope, if all goes well, it will be annually after that. And I’ll probably be doing that the rest of my life. The least invasive bladder cancer is also the most aggressive at coming back. Fun Fun.

Dr has been on me for my last 2 physicals to get a colonoscopy, but I have put it off. Being 50 in July, a coworker died from colon cancer two weeks ago, another friend called me yesterday and told me he has leukemia. I figure next Monday for my physical I will agree to do it this year.

Do it. My dad kept putting it off and died of colon cancer.

I just had a colonoscopy due to my age. Everyone should be sure to get the scope and not the cologuard/pill camera. Nothing beats/replaces the real thing. Those other things can't take samples or remove polyps.

Glad you are on the path to being cured Portland!

Do it Frenchy. Don't delay. I put it off for years as well and ended up with stage IV color cancer that had metastasized to my liver. Been fighting that now for almost 8 1/2 years.

I had a colonoscopy in the middle of February. It was the first time in 11 years. They found one pre-cancerous polyp. I have to go every 3 years now. Prudent thing to do for everyone. GM I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. You'll be in my prayers also.

Never been a big biscuit eater, and Mama was from Alabama, so I have eaten a few. I like English Muffins myself. That said, I like Bogangles over Hardees. Sometimes I want a ham biscuit, and Bo's is where I go. Damn good Cajun chicken as well.

I did say I have family in Louisiana, didn't I ?. They use Cajun spice and hot sauce like many use salt and pepper.

There have been some Bogangles pop up here locally as of late. I know I like Popeyes spicey chicken which is as close to Cajun as I have been able to find around here. But then we have Nashville Hot Chicken. I'll have to give Bogangles a try.

Saw this of Facebook. Should fit in nicely here.

I arrived at the address and honked the horn. After waiting a few minutes I honked again. Since this was going to be my last ride of my shift I thought about just driving away, but instead I put the car in park and walked up to the door and knocked.. 'Just a minute', answered a frail, elderly voice. I could hear something being dragged across the floor.
After a long pause, the door opened. A small woman in her 90's stood before me. She was wearing a print dress and a pillbox hat with a veil pinned on it, like somebody out of a 1940's movie.
By her side was a small nylon suitcase. The apartment looked as if no one had lived in it for years. All the furniture was covered with sheets.
There were no clocks on the walls, no knickknacks or utensils on the counters. In the corner was a cardboard box filled with photos and glassware.
'Would you carry my bag out to the car?' she said. I took the suitcase to the cab, then returned to assist the woman.
She took my arm and we walked slowly toward the curb.
She kept thanking me for my kindness. 'It's nothing', I told her.. 'I just try to treat my passengers the way I would want my mother to be treated.'
'Oh, you're such a good boy,’ she said. When we got in the cab, she gave me an address and then asked, 'Could you drive
through downtown?'
'It's not the shortest way,' I answered quickly..
'Oh, I don't mind,' she said. 'I'm in no hurry. I'm on my way to a hospice.’
I looked in the rear-view mirror. Her eyes were glistening. 'I don't have any family left,' she continued in a soft voice.. ‘The doctor says I don't have very long.' I quietly reached over and shut off the meter.
'What route would you like me to take?' I asked.
For the next two hours, we drove through the city. She showed me the building where she had once worked as an elevator operator.
We drove through the neighborhood where she and her husband had lived when they were newlyweds. She had me pull up in front of a furniture warehouse that had once been a ballroom where she had gone dancing as a girl.
Sometimes she'd ask me to slow in front of a particular building or corner and would sit staring into the darkness, saying nothing.
As the first hint of sun was creasing the horizon, she suddenly said, 'I'm tired. Let's go now'.
We drove in silence to the address she had given me. It was a low building, like a small convalescent home, with a driveway that passed under a portico.
Two orderlies came out to the cab as soon as we pulled up. They were solicitous and intent, watching her every move.
They must have been expecting her.
I opened the trunk and took the small suitcase to the door. The woman was already seated in a wheelchair.
'How much do I owe you?' She asked, reaching into her purse.
'Nothing,' I said.
'You have to make a living,' she answered.
'There are other passengers,' I responded.
Almost without thinking, I bent and gave her a hug. She held onto me tightly.
'You gave an old woman a little moment of joy,' she said. 'Thank you.'
I squeezed her hand, and then walked into the dim morning light.. Behind me, a door shut. It was the sound of the closing of a life..
I didn't pick up any more passengers that shift. I drove aimlessly lost in thought. For the rest of that day,I could hardly talk. What if that woman had gotten an angry driver, or one who was impatient to end his shift? What if I had refused to take the run, or had honked once, then driven away?
On a quick review, I don't think that I have done anything more important in my life.
We're conditioned to think that our lives revolve around great moments.
But great moments often catch us unaware-beautifully wrapped in what others may consider a small one.
PEOPLE MAY NOT REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID, OR WHAT YOU SAID ~BUT~ THEY WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER HOW YOU MADE THEM FEEL.
At the bottom of this great story was a request to forward this - I deleted that request because if you have read to this point, you won't have to be asked to pass it along you just will...
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance.

We all are pulling for you. Remember, it's always darkest before the dawn.....

Nashville hot is for a limited group IMO, and I am not a part of that group. There is a difference between hot and spicy and moronic. Making food better tasting is the goal of a cook, not getting it as hot as possible.

I could make my chicken hotter than Ms. Hattie, but I want to eat and like what I am eating. But, they have them lined up down the street with out of towners who want to try it....I bet most never go back.

God Bless America....if it sells, keep selling it.

That's funny.

Going to be in the Nashville area in June -- family members tell me I have to try Hattie B's. I assume that's the 'Ms Hattie' you're talking about? It's not all super-spicy, is it?

Also: We love independent joints; if you and Pit have any recommendations, please let me know.

Same place.

Go try it. You tell me.

I have lived in Tennessee since the middle 70's. I have been going to Nashville for as long. I have been eating...or have eaten Nashville hot long before the world heard about it. I had a Cajun Grandmother. She cooked with spice. Hattie just dumps Cyanne in the sauce.

Some might call that cooking. I don't. Had I cooked in your restaurant, you wouldn't have fired me because I am such an overall swell guy, but you would have said a few cuss words in my direction.


Just saying.

I'm fine with hot... but not just for the sake of being hot. If your creativity level is dumping in some cayenne, well, that's not really my cup of tea.

I had a bar too, so we had the obligatory hot wings and super hot wings (called Agent Orange). Caramelize honey and brown sugar... Toss in fresh garlic and orange rind... Quickly add our house bbq before the garlic gets bitter... then ground red savina peppers (hot as hell). Very hot... but so tasty you could not quit eating them, even if you weren't really into hot-hot. Simple ingredients and a little creativity are not akin to digging a damned ditch. When all I can taste is cayenne or Red Hot, I lose a lot of respect.

I don't really go into the city of Nashville very much per say. Mainly just for concerts which I'm very picky about who I go to see. Four major concert venues are all very close together and there are so many events held in Nashville it's often a chaotic mess. To give you an example the last time I went to the city for a concert was to see Joe Bonamassa at the Ryman Auditorium. The Stones were playing just a few blocks away at Bridgestone Arena. Just getting into the entertainment district and getting parked was a huge mess much less trying to dine there.

I wish I could be of more help to you.

If you like hot, you may like it. I don't.

As for other places...the ones I liked are now closed post covid. One I like in West end, where I usually stay is the Mid Town Cafe. The place is always packed, so get a reservation. I am sure you will like that place. It's a top notch place that isn't too fancy, but the food has always been first rate IMO. I eat there both breakfast and Lunch/Dinner. Again, reserve, they are jammed at all hours.

If you stay out there, the rooms are a bit cheaper, but not much. There is also a hattie B's about 40 yards from the cafe, just down the street.
West end is about 3 miles from the main strip, out near Music Row and Vanderbilt.

https://www.midtowncafe.com/

Excellent, thanks!

We're going in blind and have a few days before a family reunion in the Gatlinburg area. That place looks legit, already wondering how to narrow my choices lol.