CNN would obviously never admit it, but they NEED Trump to be in the mix in the presidential race for ratings. Why does anyone think they televised a town hall full of republicans? I think they hoped the debate would have gone differently, but putting Trump on an international platform was intentional and the the last thing they want is for him to go away.
That's a very odd way of looking at it. Because when they don't give GOP politicians air time most of your ilk say they're fake news and they are nothing more than a bias affirmation source. Then when they do give people like trump air time we have the tripe you posted. That basic damned of you do, damned if you don't scenario.
What you didn't address are the things trump said and that currently he is the front runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. That's why he's still news. That and the fact he's being criminally investigated in multiple state for crimes, just found liable in the E. Jean Carrol case and on and on and on. And all any of you have in response is that those who oppose you and state those facts that are obsessed by him. Try looking at those polls again. The only ones actually obsessed with him are those that have him leading the Republican party on the way to the 2024 presidential nomination. And as long as he's still a major player there, we're going to talk about it.
Don't blame us for the disease that exists within the Republican party.
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What you didn't address are the things trump said and that currently he is the front runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. That's why he's still news. That and the fact he's being criminally investigated in multiple state for crimes, just found liable in the E. Jean Carrol case and on and on and on.
My apologies to the board for not exhausting all of my opinions on Trump in my one post commenting on CNN.
A leopard cannot change its spots. Same with Trump.
I am glad it was broadcast, did not like the cheering squad. For something that was advertised as republican and independents, it was a partisan crowd.
If there is a next time I would hit him with the audio and video clips real time to counter the factually incorrect statements.
He is the front runner for the Republican nomination, and that is scary...
There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.
Considering how the trump brigade has turned back the clock to a pre industrial generation, doesn’t say much for having a few Amish supporters does it?
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America’s dream is dying. That is why Trump may still win Opinion by Janet Daley
Among all the absurd delusional things that Donald Trump has said in his second incarnation as a prospective president, there is one statement which should – by all the standards of conventional wisdom – have put an end to his campaign. In his deposition for the civil case in which he was found guilty of sexually assaulting E Jean Carroll, he was asked to comment on the notorious Access Hollywood tape in which he is heard to say that powerful men were able to “grab women” in their genitals (he used another word) with impunity. He explained that this was simply a historical truth: for millions of years (which would be longer than Homo sapiens have existed) it had been the case that male “stars” could do whatever they wanted to women – and then he added “unfortunately [short pause] or fortunately”.
Have you got that? It might be “fortunate” that famous men could sexually assault women. Can you imagine any American politician (let alone a presidential candidate) or public figure – any celebrity in any sphere – saying that without his career being instantly vaporised? Quite a few men have famously expended enormous amounts of blood and treasure trying to disprove the notion that they would even think such a thing. But Trump’s prospects seem to have been not just undamaged but actually enhanced by this display of what should – in what is assumed to be the current political climate in the United States – have been fatal. So what is going on here? There is clearly a significant proportion of the American population that not only rejects the Liberal consensus but is so enraged by it that it will enthusiastically support views that are brazenly offensive.
What we are seeing is the evolution of something that has not been an acknowledged aspect of American life since the 1930s. Yes, this is class war – but not as we know it in Britain or anywhere in the old European nations. It has little to do with hereditary cultural assumptions, because American social prestige is almost entirely to do with money that has been made within one or two generations. What passes for a ruling elite in the US is an educated professional cohort who run the media and academic life. Most of them got where they are within their own lifetimes.
Making your own fortune is the American dream and you do that by taking advantage of the opportunities that your immigrant forebears braved the journey to the New World to give you. Until very recently the general assumption was that if you did not succeed in escaping from poverty, it was your own fault. Everybody had an equal chance – indeed a moral obligation – to do better than their parents. That was the whole purpose of life. (I was shocked when I arrived in Britain to hear the word “ambitious” used as a pejorative.) Social mobility was not an idealistic promise made by aspiring political leaders, as it is here. It was a given, an essential part of the national character.
This open access to personal success clearly did not apply to black Americans and so race became America’s substitute for class inequality. But any idea of inherent white disadvantage could not be compatible with this ethos. America recognised that it had its poor who had suffered misfortune (sometimes of their own making), but they were not a fixed stratum of society whose station was inevitable. Not until the industrial heartland collapsed and left a great mass of the blue-collar population unemployed and destitute.
People who had been seen as “middle class” (what used to be called “respectable working class” in Britain) – from the car and steel factories of what is now the Rust Belt – were abandoned, disinherited and, most pertinently, disenfranchised. Then along came Donald Trump who sold unapologetic protectionism with the old fascist slogan “America First” – and he became their man.
Along with that promise to bring jobs back home came a full-blown vendetta against the Left-liberal social philosophy which had come to dominate public discourse. This was going to be a revival not only of the American manufacturing industry and the livelihoods it provided but of the unabashed virility of redneck life. Trump would say what was supposed to be unsayable. And the forgotten people whose anger he channelled would cheer because at last somebody was speaking for (and like) them.
What the “... or fortunately” crack at the deposition makes clear is that he may be conducting a vendetta against foreign powers stealing American industries – and migrants taking jobs that might have gone to American voters – but he is also defying the Left intelligentsia whose “believe all women” credo is seen as a threat to just the sort of men who are inclined to support him and who regard all of this as part of the same conspiracy. It is really important to grasp that Trump is not gaining popularity in spite of his ugly rants. He is gaining popularity because of them.
But Joe Biden is an old-fashioned blue-collar Democrat. He is advocating solutions in the Franklin Roosevelt tradition: subsidies for new green energy industries (to create what he calls “good union jobs”), which he promises will revive the economy of middle America. But he combines this with an embrace of Liberal orthodoxy which keeps the elites on board. It’s an uncomfortable juxtaposition. But there is nothing clear-cut or predictable about the US political scene now. The most fundamental principles are collapsing. Ordinary people distrust the institutions that they were taught to revere. This country, which once thought itself unique, is falling into the old historical trap of turning to a demagogue out of confusion and despair.
My apologies to the board for not exhausting all of my opinions on Trump in my one post commenting on CNN.
Yet your comment made no sense. Since it's obvious you haven't kept up, CNN took more heat for giving him a platform both before and after this town hall than anything they could have possibly have gained from it.
And, like I said, which you also failed to address, if they give him a platform the other side such as yourself claims they need to do it for ratings. If they don't, people such as yourself claim they are nothing more than an echo chamber for the left only airing what their viewers want to hear. You would have slammed them either way.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Maybe you should have actually watched that debacle.
Naw, I'm not addicted to hate porn.
I'm not surprised you wish to jump in and comment on something you didn't even watch. I'm not surprised many are doing the same thing.
At least I will admit I didn't watch it. Which of those legal decisions did you read again? You know the ones you are intimately knowledgeable about that well, you didn't read?
Trying to divert a thread to something that has nothing to with the thread you're posting in is obvious. At least one can say that when you bring up a politician from a different party into a corruption thread, at least it's still pertaining to political corruption. But I'm sure you won't admit the difference.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
My apologies to the board for not exhausting all of my opinions on Trump in my one post commenting on CNN.
Yet your comment made no sense. Since it's obvious you haven't kept up, CNN took more heat for giving him a platform both before and after this town hall than anything they could have possibly have gained from it.
And, like I said, which you also failed to address, if they give him a platform the other side such as yourself claims they need to do it for ratings. If they don't, people such as yourself claim they are nothing more than an echo chamber for the left only airing what their viewers want to hear. You would have slammed them either way.
"Taking heat" and ratings are not the same thing.
The town hall had 3.3M viewers. https://www.axios.com/2023/05/11/cnn-trump-town-hall-tv-ratings CNN's controversial town hall with former President Donald Trump drew 3.3 million viewers Wednesday night, making CNN the most-watched cable news network of the evening, according to final ratings from Nielsen.
CNN needs Trump to boosting ratings and viewership. The town hall was an example of that. When Trump is in the news and CNN reports on him, they do better in ratings. It is that simple.
So speaking of "no sense", I'll return that sentiment back to you.
Trying to divert a thread to something that has nothing to with the thread
Oh, the irony.
I see you took your focus of the thread as well. But that's nothing new. When you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. You forgot the most important part of that post. No, actually I'm quite sure you didn't. You just didn't want to address it....
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At least one can say that when you bring up a politician from a different party into a corruption thread, at least it's still pertaining to political corruption. But I'm sure you won't admit the difference.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
So you're theory is that a few hours of ratings is worth all of the fallout from it? Yeah, sure.
I'll defer you to my original comment on CNN needing Trump to be in the race to boost ratings and the numbers prove that. The town hall is the most recent example. Anything else you are adding on 'taking heat' is fluff means next to nothing if CNN has something to report on re: Trump. Ratings dictate sponsors. Sponsors give cash. Cash is king.
Sure. All of the heat they're taking is fluff according to you. A few hours of ratings in your opinion means more than angering their viewers which has much longer term consequences. This is how things appear to people when they use a microscope to look at something that requires a telescope to see the full picture of.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Sure. All of the heat they're taking is fluff according to you. A few hours of ratings in your opinion means more than angering their viewers which has much longer term consequences. This is how things appear to people when they use a microscope to look at something that requires a telescope to see the full picture of.
You can think media is altruistic in that sense all you'd like, but that's not the case.
There's actually nothing altruistic about considering the long term costs of making a move your viewers have shown they were strongly opposed to even before you do it. This is a question of cost verses reward. In this case the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I will put this under the category of “Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant”
I get that it is in style to trash CNN for the town Hall. But should make everyone who is willing to think twice about going down that road again.
The whole abortion discussion about democrats want abortion up until birth was perhaps the most underplayed part of the town hall.
There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.
Haven't seen the town hall. Pretty sure I won't. Looking a the back and forth on this thread I guess I'd say the following:
Trump as the front runner to be the Republican candidate is newsworthy.
Not talking about Trump and how bad trump is because the depths of his toxicity have been discussed before could be one course of action for the world.
Personally I think he's got at least a 50/50 shot at winning - and I think NOT talking about how bad he is or the lies he continues to spew moving forward only increases the chances he gets elected - so I'd say it's fair game and more than reasonable to highlight an discuss new events and milestones etc. Once he's eliminated from being a candidate I'd be happy never to talk about him ever again.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
I did watch part of it, but when I realized it was more of a Trump Rally with his supporters rather than anything actually informative, I dumped out. Same ole crap.
I would love to see this same thing Joe Scarborough or Rachel Maddow or Ari Melber... I like watching Melber, but the other two I can live without.
But for sure, Maddow would crush him. Not sure about Joe,, he might crumble.. not sure.
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