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As an abundance of caution, WNBC.com is no longer posting the list as we work to make sure each and every name that were originally posted on our Web site will be the ones Mitchell will be name later today. Yet another source suggests WNBC.com was given a draft copy by our two original sources, not the final copy being released today.
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At this stage of something this big, there are no draft revisions... if anything is being toted around, it is a final version. I would very interested to know which names were on the "draft" revision that don't show up on the "final" revision..... and why.
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Some names ESPN reported:
Paul LaDuca
David Segui
Denny Neagle
Fernando Vina
Rondell white
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Mitchell, a Boston Red Sox director
Clemens won't be alone. It will be full of yankees. Current and past yankees.
Are you saying the only reason for that will be is that Mitchell's associated with the Red Sox? Nice to have an excuse handy in advance. 
An excuse?? Excuse for what? An excuse for MLB....Like I care aobut them? For the Yankees?? Look over 75% fo these guys juiced at one time or another. I think it is enexcusable for MLB to let it go this long. Then to get some guy (From one of the teams in the league) to come in and do an investigation....It's all a load. IMO It's just as tainted as everybody claims these records are.
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Honestly, I did waffle bout posting that because I would say it falls under the auspices of rumormongering.. however, the story does not name the players rather it discusses the "arrival" of the story. This will all be moot shortly tho.. my cell says it's 2:03pm..
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Sen. Mitchell was also the one who leaked Paul Byrd's name on game 7 of the ALCS...I would expect to see ZERO Red Sox names on the list.
I think some of the tin foil from your hat fell off.
Perhaps...we shall see if i'm right or not
Edit: And I can see i'm already wrong...there is a chapter in the report that said roid were found in a Red Sox player's car...so i'm wrong
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Well, I think *hope* he lists just the names, because I think it's a 300+ pages report.
Sounds like he's reading it all...sheesh.
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Couple names I saw, just from scrolling through.
Chuck Knoblauch, David Justice, Mo Vaughn, Miguel Tejada (lol), Paul Lo Duca, Fernando Vina, Kevin Brown, Eric Gange
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Just wondering...Will all these players loose time? Even if its a 1st. offense?
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Clemens won't be alone. It will be full of yankees. Current and past yankees.
Are you saying the only reason for that will be is that Mitchell's associated with the Red Sox? Nice to have an excuse handy in advance.
An excuse?? Excuse for what? An excuse for MLB....Like I care aobut them? For the Yankees?? Look over 75% fo these guys juiced at one time or another. I think it is enexcusable for MLB to let it go this long. Then to get some guy (From one of the teams in the league) to come in and do an investigation....It's all a load. IMO It's just as tainted as everybody claims these records are.
What these people tell us is only what they want us to know...Remember that.
I thought you were making an excuse for Yankees names appearing on the list. I didn't think you'd (or anyone) actually believe Senator Mitchell would not include Red Sox names just because he's associated with the club.
I agree that we'll get as much info as they want us to have and that someone not related to any team should have lead the investigation. Oh well, Selig muffs another one...
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Can't wait to see the public reaction to this. Is Clemens going to get the same treatment Bonds has?  My guess is no.
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Here's some of the names I got just skimming through:
Jason Giambi
Jeremey Giambi
Gary Sheffield
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Brian Roberts
Todd Hundley
Hal Morris
Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Andy Petitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Greg Zaun
David Justice
Mo Vaughn
Miguel Tejada
Paul Lo Duca
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagne
Rick Ankiel
Paul Byrd
Troy Glaus
Jose Guillen
John Rocker
Matt Williams
Gary Matthews Jr.
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It looks like he got these names mostly from 3 or 4 "distributors" who have been busted. This is probably just the tip of the iceberg of who's actually using.
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Just wondering...Will all these players loose time? Even if its a 1st. offense?
if they do, nobody will be able to play come opening day....50% of baseball has been suspendded unitl early June
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Mo Vaughn and Eric Gagne were on the list, there's 2 Red Sox.
Sheffield is listed and so is Tejada, and Matt Williams, but other then those no one else had star power.
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Mo Vaughn and Eric Gagne were on the list, there's 2 Red Sox.
Sheffield is listed and so is Tejada, and Matt Williams, but other then those no one else had star power.
Can't wait until Conte spills the beans. I have a feeling that he's the guy who could single handedly bring down the sporting world
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Can't wait to see the public reaction to this. Is Clemens going to get the same treatment Bonds has? My guess is no.
I can say I look at him in the exact same light as Bonds.
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Paull Bryd made himself look stupid he got his prescriptions from a dentist who had his license suspended.
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It looks like he got these names mostly from 3 or 4 "distributors" who have been busted. This is probably just the tip of the iceberg of who's actually using.
Exactly. All those names are just from the few guys Mitchell was able to get information from, because no one else would co-operate. What happens now that this report is released and the problem is officially exposed? Maybe more people are either sought out or are willing to provide information...
Unless baseball somehow tries to put a lid on all the steroid talk now that a handful of players have been exposed, I have a feeling this is just going to start the ball rolling downhill.
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I always knew Clemens was a roider. People told me I was crazy and had an bias toward him (since I'm a Indians fan). Whooohooooo! Roider!!!! And I know Manny was a roider too......even though his name may not be on this list. Overall, big, big, big, big, big, big day in baseball history!  
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Can't wait to see the public reaction to this. Is Clemens going to get the same treatment Bonds has? My guess is no.
You would be right. Clements doesn't have the problems with the media that Bonds has. Bonds gets what he gets because he has made enemies of those that write the stories for the fans. They are biased, and that shows in their writings.
Also, Bonds has been reported to have lied to a grand jury, Which makes his story bigger than that of a star athlete using roids. I am waiting to see how the press treats Clements. IMO they should go after him hard. He is an icon in the sport and should be dirtied up as much as the others.
Also, No McGuire on the list? They should vote him into the Hall of Fame now.
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At least until the next distributor is busted.
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from NY Times....
Mitchell’s List
By The New York Times
Here is a list of most of the names of former and active Major League Baseball players named in the Mitchell Report on performance-enhancing drugs.
These names were based on incidents in the past, information from the BALCO investigation and original reporting by the Mitchell investigation including information from Kirk Radomski, a former Mets’ clubhouse attendant who pleaded guilty in April to steroid charges, Brian McNamee, a former trainer for Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte, and from an investigation led by the Albany County district attorney into Signature Pharmacy.
As we review the report, names may be added to this list.
Chad Allen
Manny Alexander
Rick Ankiel
Mike Bell
David Bell
Gary Bennett Jr.
Marvin Bernard
Larry Bigbie
Barry Bonds
Kevin Brown
Paul Byrd
Ken Caminiti
Jose Canseco
Mark Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Howie Clark
Roger Clemens
Jack Cust
Brendan Donnelly
Lenny Dykstra
Bobby Estalella
Matt Franco
Ryan Franklin
Eric Gagne
Jason Giambi
Jeremi Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Darren Holmes
Todd Hundley
David Justice
Chuck Knoblauch
Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan
Josias Manzanillo
Gary Matthews Jr.
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris
David Naulty
Denny Neagle
Jim Parque
Andy Pettitte
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt
Stephen Randolph
Adam Riggs
Brian Roberts
John Rocker
F.P. Santangelo
Benito Santiago
Gary Scheffield
Scott Schoeneweis
David Segui
Mike Stanton
Miguel Tejada
Ismael Valdez
Mo Vaugn
Randy Velarde
Ron Villone
Fernando Vina
Rondell White
Todd Williams
Jeff Williams
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard
Kevin Young
Gregg Zaun
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I kind of expected one of the Boone brothers to show up on there, from things I've heard.
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I kind of expected one of the Boone brothers to show up on there, from things I've heard.
Well ESPN has been talking about other names not on the list too. This report wasn't built to detail every player that used steroids in the MLB. Mitchell only had so much time and focus. Some players weren't "in scope" or hid their sources better. Not being on this list doesn't clear your name.
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No Hafner and no Thome. I'm glad for that.
I think Thome used something while with the Indians. Same thing with Manny. What proof do I have? None. I just have a feeling.
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Why am I not seeing one Brady Anderson on this list?
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