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The strategy does change. We aren't looking so much at what a player can do for us in 2-3 years. It's more about who can help in the next game.
Goodwin still has the Jets and that is something our other receivers don't have. If Goodwin can get a safety leaning his way over the top, it opens a lot of the middle.

Watson has a strong arm. It doesn't hurt to have a receiver who can go and run under a deep ball.

Glad to see this. I want to see more of his game. Any feel for his upside, Dawgs?

Glad to see Hickman made it! His flashes impressed me. Seems pretty calm and steady. I had a sense we were better prepared responsibly ready to play D. We have had a scoring defense. I am impressed with their demeanor, seen some lightning, waiting on a thundering swagger.

When will we know if Watkins cleared waivers and we can put him on our PS?

Overall, no huge surprises as far as the 53 goes. Thought Watkins would, but other than that no real shocks imo.

I don't know if that would be excessive. I don't hear you complaining about Hospital ward missing multiple games a season

The bottom line is it was determined that Goodwin would give us more help this year. I will also add that it isn't over just yet. I liked Watkins as well. It may not be over for his return.

I'll also add that i don't think Goodwin is who bumped Watkins off the roster. I think it was Ventrone and or Schwartz. I think it came down to Diabate or Watkins. In the end it was determined that Diabate was going to have a bigger impact. I don't think Watkins was going to help special teams and the D. Both areas that needed to improve.

solid point!

So, I skipped almost all of preseason. But I would like to know how everyone feels about our chances at this point?

lots of injuries 7-10
Some Injuries 10-7
no injuries 12-5

The d might be special. Hope so

Looks like most of the draft choices made it.

Tillman, Jones, McGuire, Jones, DTR, Mitchell. Congratulations

Looks like a couple of UDFA made the 53.

Diabate and Hickman. No surprise there, but I was rooting for Watkins as well.

Teams reshuffle the practice squad, so we may see an unknown player there. Derek Anderson wound up a Brown that way.

Yep, no telling on the PS. We will try to get some of our cuts back and you never know who we have our eye on from other teams. Probably mostly guys we had on previous years draft boards who we never got a chance to sign.

Tough calls have to be made. Goodwin brings the speed a team likes to have to help stretch things on the vertical. In the end I don't think it was Goodwin or any of the other receivers who bounced Watkins off the 53. I think it was Diabate or Hickman. Probably more Hickman. Diabate got a pretty sizeable signing bonus to sign with us as a UDFA. I think it was 5th round money. In the end both of those guys will be able to make immediate contributions on special teams for sure and possibly the D as a whole. Both of those areas needed more help than the WR did. At best Watkins was only going to see very limited action this season. I also think the teams feels that Watkins has the best chance to clear waivers. The guy is already 25 which is nearing that barrier age of 30 for wide receivers.

We have to remember, our philosophy, or roster strategy has changed. Gone are the days where projecting guys 2-3 years down the road have taken a back seat to how can a player help todays team? That's what happens when you establish a pretty solid roster and are looking at winning today more than developing players for the future.

Good points Peen.

Keep in mind, when the roster and depth gets stronger the roster cuts become harder to make. Especially when it comes to the end of the depth chart. There are various reasons to keep a player over another. Examples: salary cap implications, vet leadership or experience over youth (or that can be reversed depending on the team building scenario), versatility of the player.

I’m not saying it is right or wrong regarding certain players, but you need versatility at some positions. The more versatile the playbook can be the more different looks and defensive keys the defense has to account pre-snap and substitutions.



Our receivers:
Cooper 6-1 211lbs
DPJ 6-2 204
Tillman 6-3 215
Bell 6-1 212
Moore 5-10 180
Goodwin 5-9 185

I’m not seeing all these “smallish” WRs on the roster. I’m seeing a WR roster with a lot of different skill sets. These WRs specialize in different areas of the whole the field; short, crossing/underneath, medium, and deep.

Soon we will see how they will perform on the field compared on paper.

hopefully Dunn and Hurst are back after injury designations .... and let's hope York and Watkins pass through unclaimed

Agreed Bone.

Your post is a great breakdown of the point I was trying to make.

And what “should happen” is those weapons should cause issues (confusion) with the different levels of the defense. Does the safety roll to one side? How good are the other teams nickel and dime? Do they switch or stay with their man? Is a LB exposed to a WR/TE? All things the receivers and QB need to decipher.

Why did you put blood clots in quotes?

So in your wisdom you have concluded that Watkins playing against second and third string NFL players, some of which I am sure were also cut this week, means more than a body of evidence against top NFL talent. Got it.

Schwartz may be back indeed lol

Fred Greetham
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#Browns are expected to put together their 16-player practice squad this afternoon. Many players recently released are expected to return.

Oobs...you ask, why did I put "blood clots" in quotes?...to "emphasize" the nature of injury that kept Goodwin sidelined for the entire preseason..Goodwin did manage to overcome this injury/condition just in time for the regular season. Hopefully Goodwin can stay healthy and contribute enough to help my Browns win enough games to make the playoffs.

I heard that alot too, but then you stuff like this:

good news on Watkins!

and that story on York is WILD

who??

Waiver claims.

No Brown cut was claimed.

so long Cade! good luck