DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Jim Schwartz and the Defense

Don't forget, we have a offensive line coach who has been a more than decent HC- people, as they age, know what they want to do and don't have to put up with the BS head coaches put up with....money wise, I doubt either of the guys mentioned- Sw or BC need money- so.....I think SKI is safe from the current coaches- he does need to produce this year- all the pieces are currently available.....BUT, luck, magic, injuries, FGs- who can predict the future. Hope Browns stay healthy and have fab year.

Completely agree with you and peen. I’m just speculating here but a guy like Schwartz has plenty enough money, he isn’t stupid so he didn’t squander his savings at the track. He might not want to tolerate the BS, as you said, that being a HC presents. Just wants to focus on building a great defence, making players better.

It’s like being a teacher in the school system: I’ve known teachers who don’t want to be the school principal, they get their satisfaction teaching the kids.

I think being a good to great coordinator, one who has the respect of his players and peers, would be the place I’d want to be if were a coach at that level, or any level.

Another thing folks don't consider is the mental and physical drain of managing the whole team---HC, he's got ALL the coaches, assistants, and 53 plus players to know, evaluate, plan the integration....as DC, you cut that in less than half-----LOT EASIER. Plus, we all have our best talents in certain areas- Callahan cuts his numbers down again by a lot. Good thing for SKI is he can go talk to these guys and get a NO BS answer--- I sure hope we smoke the Bangles right off the bat and build on it....GO Browns!!!

D did their job- limited points and gave ball back to O over and over again.....outstanding job- one game- Schwartz, keep them humble and hungry- GO Browns!!!

That's the most inspired defense we've had in my lifetime. And that's not an exaggeration

Browns defense wore down the Bengals defense. How? They literally keep them on the field most of the game.

Doug Farrar has a pretty good article on our defensive performance here:

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great write up ... I loved the way they moved Garrett like the queen on a chess board

Kind of funny that Garrett pretty much told him he was going to cross him up, and he still crossed him up.

Classic.

watch every high school kid in America try to do that Friday night

Hopeful, the sample size is/was ONE- now all teams will adjust- time will tell IF our Defense is better than GOOD. We had our first significant injury, Conklin, hopefully we don't have anymore- Rogers lasted FOUR plays. Lady Luck please be with us. GO Browns!!!!

Monday will be interesting for our defense. They have good skill guys, just like the Bengals. And the Steelers will have seen some film of us (and us of them).

I predict a low scoring affair for both teams

bingo ... stay that hungry and aggressive and loose. Don't lose the edge

I'm in wait and see mode. I'm cautiously optimistic, but being aggressive is "easy" when its difficult for opponents to change direction due to field conditions. I'm a bit worried about missed tackles cropping up on a cleaner field and Cinci missed some potential big plays due to slips and stumbles. There was an Evans (?) run that looked like he had room to the left if he hadn't gone down on his own that stood out.

I also think Pitt left some plays on the field and Pickett was bad. As good as the 49ers D's stats look, I think a lot of it was the Steelers (offense in particular) playing awful. I expect them to execute much better next week. There's also officiating not being as loose going forward to consider.

But we could play better, too. Even if Pitt plays better, that team has some limitations we should be able to take advantage of.

Hopefully the players don't think they have arrived and keep their edge and continue improving. I think Schwartz and Stefanski will have a good plan for that.

The fact that there was less confusion on our own side of the ball vs the opponent on what the D was supposed to do was a huge step up.

Jake Burns said this too ... way less confusion last game than any game last season

Man coverage has a great deal to do with that.

And after last year and what the players saw this last game, they should be willing to run through a wall for Schwartz.

This. Schwatrz has gotten this defense to play as a unit. He is certainly using them to accentuate their skill sets. It has and I believe will continue to do wonders for the Browns defense. But at the same time it's most certainly true that man coverage takes far less communication than zone.

I think the true test of the D will come when they inevitably face some adversity and have to respond to it. We can't let things snowball like they have in the past.

We've always matched up well vs the Bengals. I'm really glad we won and everything, but despite their injuries I'm worried about a pissed off Steelers team.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1701289516848521223

OH my!! Probably even better than any of us thought.

For the record I would have said this prior to last week but we have more talent almost everywhere. I’m in the minority in that I personally just don’t believe in Pickett. I also think this team, for whatever reason, rises to the bait of national games. If we don’t win this game and pretty decisively I’ll have serious questions. They’ll probably start with the QB.

I'm happy we don't have to cope with their DT- Watt is plenty. We lost RT, but "may" have a decent replacement- I'm also looking forward to seeing Watson throw a dry ball- I think we'll win.....GO Browns!!!!

THAT is the difference in this year and last. Last year the Defensive players were asked to see the wall, study the wall, think gee is it better to run through the wall, run around the wall, or go over the wall. All that thinking leads to a slow... s..l..o.w defense. Now we run though the wall and destroy anything with the ball.

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This game will really define who we are this year I think. We have recent history of being able to handle the bengals .... not so much the steelers. Tomlin will make sure they're ready for us after that embarrassing performance. I see a close game with us winning and maybe finally getting a little respect around the league if we can get two division wins this early.

we've basically shown that we want to play offense with the defense, which I enjoy

well take that all year

Damn, that was not a lot of time.

Whether one questions the QB position depends on the performance of the QB and not who "won the game decisively". I've seen QB's play well and still lose games or win by very small margins. While I don't think it's wrong to question watson on a game by game basis at this point, I think it's much too early to question him as a QB overall.

The difference as I see it is that with the exception of the last game against the Bengals in 2022 we had a good winning streak against them. With both the steelers and the ravens the games tend to be much closer overall even when the talent doesn't seem that close. While I do think the browns can win by a large margin I wouldn't at all be surprised if the margin is closer than I think it could be. There is something to be said about most division rivalries.

Spread less than 3 points- Browns soared, Steelers tanked at home- LESS than 3....agree lots of teams don't like each other- Browns/Ravens, Steelers, Bengals- Chiefs/Raiders, Cowboys/Redskins, etc....I'm hoping Watson hits some long ones to open up Chubb even more, and Miles against Steeler center- dang, they got PROBLEMS. Go Browns!!!

I would have thought that the spread would have been larger than that but then I think the odds makers may have taken into consideration that the Browns haven't beaten the Steelers at their home stadium for 19 games in a row. The last time the Browns beat the Steelers at their home during the regular season was in 2003 and Tim couch was the Browns QB. I however don't believe that in any way reflects the difference between the Browns superior talent as it is now.