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Thats more of stefanski playing to Watson's strengths.. Not "inmates running the prison" thats a pretty tone deaf statement

Especially considering how they still actually did a lot of the same formations we've seen in the past, and they didn't work as well.

I'm still waiting to see what a bunch of the numbers actually were. Haven't even seen snap counts yet.

It was also great to see Watson have those Houdini moments again, getting out of sacks and such

Hmmmmmm, not sure where the 2:1 came from. Maybe the week 2 yards per carry.

Not sure what I would do if I were the Titans OC. That offense doesn't look like it is going anywhere.

Good pass blockers are hard to find. It's not easy to beat someone when you're going backwards and they're going forwards. Between inertia and just the way the human body is put together, OL are at a disadvantage from the jump.

It's just an example of trying to manufacture a problem out of thin air. There are enough potential concerns as it is.

MoreForYouCleveland
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#Browns top 5 performers on defense in Week 3, per PFF: (min. 15 snaps)

1.) Myles Garrett (93.3)
2.) Alex Wright (90.5)
3.) Mo Hurst (89.6)
4.) JOK (87.1)
5.) Anthony Walker (84.9)

MoreForYouCleveland
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Let's take a look at the pass blocking grade of the 3 LT's tasked with blocking Myles Garrett so far this season.

Orlando Brown Jr. - 57.0
Dan Moore Jr - 3.5
Andre Dillard - 26.2

Lets no forget to thank The Titans DBs they helped us out a bit on offense. Holding etc...

Cooper drew 3 DPI/holding calls (and maybe 4, but 3 for first downs) ... in addition to his 100 yards and a TD ... that's crazy production

Dov Kleiman
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#Browns Myles Garrett was a monster against the #Titans on Sunday:

🏈 3.5 sacks (1st)
🏈 9 pressures (T-1st)
🏈 93.2 Pass-Rushing Grade (1st)
🏈 34.6% win percentage (1st)

The #Browns only allowed 3 points against the #Bengals and #Titans in their two wins this season.

I honestly think Watson will actually play better not having Chubb as his back. I don't think Deshawn and Nick play complementary football.

Nick likes his QB under center where he can get a running start before getting the handoff and getting it closer to the line, and Watson likes to play out of the gun. He doesn't like turning his back towards the line after getting the ball. Chubb being out might prove to be a twisted sort of blessing.

This. Jason Lloyd discussed after the Steelers game how Teller is having to communicate constantly with Jones to make sure he's on the same page. Teller did not have to do this with Conklin.

From today...

Makes a certain amount of sense, peen. Not that we wouldn’t kill to have Nick back, but I get what you’re saying.

that makes sense for sure

Not sure if that is accurate or not.


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I agree on the Watson side, but Chubb transcended scheme. I was looking forward to him getting more passing game opportunities.

I get that too. And anything to makes Watson more comfortable becomes an easy choice without Chubb. Wondering how that will affect blocking schemes on run plays and add to the 'learning curve' with the OL and a new RB1.

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The #Browns top graded offensive players against the #Titans according to
@PFF
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TE Harrison Bryant - 75.1
QB Deshaun Watson - 74.6
WR Amari Cooper - 72.3
RT Dawand Jones - 65.3
C Ethan Pocic - 64.3

Harrison has been light out on QB sneaks lol

Funny you mentioned that Peen. I was thinking about that last night. It's only one game, so I will wait and see how this all plays out with the future games. I did find it interesting imo, the offense flowed differently out there. I know adjustments will be made when you lose someone like Chubb.

I just felt it was more of a team effort. I know I am not explaining this clearly enough. The best i can think is when Lebron was with the Cavs. The offense flowed differently through him and less passing, more one on one bball. Once he left, the ball play sets were more open, player movement, passing/ getting everyone involved was a big difference compared to when he was here.

This definitely is not a slight on Chubb. I just think once we couldn't get a rhythm, we would just go back to Old Faithful. Now since we don't have Old Faithful, we have depend on everyone to do their part in moving the chains.

Like I said, it's such a small sample so it's in no way shape or form what is happening. Besides, game plans from game to game will change anyways.

“Now since we don't have Old Faithful, we have depend on everyone to do their part in moving the chains.”

Yes. Nice hoops analogy and I’ve seen it in hockey, too. A team’s key player goes down, everyone is like “oh crap, we gotta get buy-in from everyone“. Wayne Gretzky lost a lot of time one year and Jarri Curry stepped up large. Happened.

It FORCES everyone to man up.

I am a little over the hill and have my gray moments, but I was a pretty deep thinker when a little younger.

I agree, it's a small sample, but if you look at Watsons history, he played in the gun at Clemson and Houston. I would also bet a pretty nice sum he did in HS, JRHS and Pee Wee. That is all most of these kids play coming up. He likes to face the D and not turn away from the D. He doesn't see the field when he does that.

With what we have invested in the guy, I don't think it very smart to think you are going to change 20 years of habits and expect great results. I am right handed in throwing and writing only. I do nearly everything else left handed. If some came in and said I had to shave right handed, it wouldn't be pretty. I can't eat with a fork in my right hand.

The point is you can't easily change ingrained habits. If he can't play under center, don't do it. That would be like telling Peyton Manning he needed to run a RPO....if the DE crashes, pitch it, it not tuck and run underneath him.....that wouldn't be pretty....it might be funny.

I love the Baldy breakdowns

Yes, I agree with you about Watson’s history.

I prefer the shotgun with spreading the receivers out, also prefer the 5 wide. Spread them all out, find the mismatches, and play pitch n catch with the WRs/TES/RBs.

j/c...

The reasons Myles hasn't won DPOY and those other guys have...

1. Injuries.
2. Covid/asthma.
3. Beating people over the head with helmets.
4. Car accidents.
5. Gifting Watt DPOY to prove a point to our previous QB.
6. Lack of timely plays in timely moments.

I hope this is the year. I'm tired of hearing about Watt. He's a Neanderthal.

BTW, there's a really good YouTube breakdown with Sam Monson (and I can't remember the other guys name) every week. They love Myles. Like just love him. It's why he always gets good PFF grades.

1000%

JOK looks so much better with the added weight. It was sorely needed. Hopefully it will help him stay healthy because he's a game changer. Him, Delpit, and Hurst have really stood out. We are going to have to pay Delpit.

Walker even seems faster. Schwartz is a magician.

Takitaki has always been good. Everytime he's on the field he plays well.

Really goes to show how important coaching is in football. The linebacker group seemed really weak. Schwartz has the entire defense playing lights out.

I think this defense is better so far then the '94 defense.

No doubt about it ... everyone looks improved, faster, more connected, etc.

I think Berry has known for awhile he was going to have to pay for him.

His TD on Sunday was vintage Takitaki.

Good point on your bringing up Takitaki. All good units have their unsung heroes, and he seems to be one of those guys. He just seems to turn in solid-if-unspectacular performance.

He ran a great route.

And watch Stef probably won't let him play offense again the rest of the season.

IMO the guy that is gonna be left out will be Newsome. Can't afford them all

j/c...

BTW, not sure if anyone has mentioned this...but how about Stef showing some emotion...I dig it.

Players buy in to a coach who knows what he is doing, demands excellence from everybody and is cranky enough and equally jumps on anybodys ass and holds them accountable if he feels they are being slack. Schwartz will get in Garrett's grill and chew him out if he feels Myles is slacking at practice.

Schwartz has coached a lot of good players. Albert Haynesworth, Sueh, numerous guys in Philly, now Myles. He doesn't care. He is going to punk you if he feels you are a slacker. He has the cred that all those players are going to say if he calls them out in front of the team is "Yes Sir, I'll do better".