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I don't see us messing with the defensive chemistry, so looking at offense: DPJ is a piece to watch ... he's not in our future plans

You wonder if we kick the tires on a Brissett trade? Or another RB that would have some upside

Also, obviously OL, but that's such a sparse area around the league

Brissett maybe, but honestly, I don't think we need a RB. We have a decent two headed monster.

I'd love to see if Hunt can recapture some of the magic this year. I hope what I've been seeing the past couple weeks is him recapturing some mojo and gaining momentum each week.

I think we may be kicking some tires on some Oline depth. I don't think we're really in a position to swing some huge trade.

I don't think they will look at a RB

As much as they run Moore out of the backfield

Maybe they make Moore a RB and bring in Hardman as another Speedster WR lol

I'd really look at Brissett ... exchange late round picks. He knows the offense, is much more reliable, good at short yardage, the guys like him, etc

I would just say no to Henry. His best game was this past game. Otherwise he was averaging less than 4.0 yards per carry. The physical style of his game has caught up to him and he's not the same guy he used to be.

The immediate focus should be on what the Browns can upgrade this year as they push for a playoff position, but I think we would be naive to think that 2024 wouldn't be a part of the equation.

1. I'm in total agreement on Wills. He's not improving (quite the opposite) and his 5th year option is a self-inflected error in judgement. Unloading Wills for peanuts will be fairly easy, finding a replacement is another question. Bolles DEN age 31 - signed through 2024 @ 15.75M in 2024, T. Brown NEP age 30 and final year of contract are options as these teams will probably be unloading players for draft picks and would be an upgrade. Either player could allow the Browns 2-years to permanently address the position either through FA or the draft and would be huge upgrades over Wills - T. Brown - Grade 82.4 rank 4th, Bolles - Grade 72.8 rank 21st, Wills - Grade 50.3 rank 66th. Paying a Bolles make much more sense than paying a Wills.

2. WR is and will be a huge issue at least from what we have seen thus far on the field. Cooper will be entering the final year of his contract at age 30 and most likely will be looking for a big extension this off season. Moore is also entering the final year of his deal in 2024. He's cheap next year and IMHO not lived up to expectations yet but if he does turn it on will he be demanding a new deal too? DPJ is currently in the final year of his deal and looks like he's almost fallen off the face of the earth in the Browns offense. IMHO, I wouldn't expect DPJ to take a hometown discount, so this is a real opening going forward. I haven't seen anything from Tillman, Bell, or Goodwin that makes me think they are the next man up.

3. Nick Chubb, what happened to Nick was horrific and sad. That said, I am very skeptical that Chubb will be ready to go at the start of 2024. That second gruesome injury to the same injured knee does not bode well for a quick recovery. I suspect that Chubb would start the season on IR and not come off before November. The second issue is his 11.775M final year base salary will have a negative bearing on the cap. Whether the Browns address a replacement this year or next, IMHO it will have to be addressed. It may be easier and more cost effective to do it now rather than later but that's for Berry to figure out.

If the Browns sit pat and make no moves, questions will abound as to the direction this team is really heading. Either the Browns are all in or they are not.
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I doubt we'd make any moves, but I do hope Berry is keeping an eye on anything that might be happening in Denver. They could be willing enough to get something done that makes sense for us.

Denver: Bolles would be my wish

Just some thoughts...

Wills..we might want to replace him, but who can we get that is better?

As for DPJ, trade him if we can. I don't know what kind of value he would have around the league.

I wouldn't be surprised if we do nothing.

I don't expect any blockbuster sort of trade, at all. Nothing flashy. If anything, I see us bolstering the line, maybe bringing in a RB from a struggling team looking to sell, but mostly, I expect unheralded guys that aren't the names everyone would clamor for, but that we likely scouted hard when they came out of college and have kept a watch on.

For OLine, guys who are good on their feet and move well and would thrive in Callahan's system.
We may already have the guy in Ty Nsekhe that was signed last week.

I want to trade for Moss. I think he would be a huge injection into the offense.

Moss/Hunt would be a decent pair vs Hunt/Ford.

I am so onboard with this. I'm OK with DTR as a 3rd stringer, but I don't want to see Walker take the field again. There must be a solid veteran backup QB to be had out there.....

I'd like to see more of Strong Jr first.....

We should do something to help the O. It would be a shame to waste what we have on D. It's early but we all know we have a talented and well coached D which could be as dominant as any in recent memory.

Agreed. With DW's availability being somewhat of an unknown, QB seems to be the most obvious position at this moment.....

and if Watson plays we need him to go into the game as a game manager ... his goal should literally be all field position and no turnovers. That would help him stay healthy and us win the game

We need 1 decent WR.

That's what Stefanski has to feed him.

I think part of what we're seeing evolve, as far as team identity, is an offense that has been churning it out and keeping fresh legs for the defense.

Memphis posted in another thread showing that we are near the best in the league in avoiding 3-and-outs. Hard to believe, really, with what has gone down at QB. Combine that with winning the TOP battle (by between 10 and 17 minutes in three contests ), and you have an offense that is the yin to Schwartz's yang. And he's got a big yang.

good point .. we have to make the defense the identity AND have the offense buy into that too ... let them be our engine

We agree Bone. Maybe it's the baseball in us.

First you have to find a willing trade partner, then it has to be a deal everyone feels good about. It has to make sense to both teams. This isn't fantasy where some idiot wants to trade PJ Walker for Tua.

Baseball has more trades because they can trade for prospects. The NFL doesn't have prospects. They have players or draft picks. Baseball doesn't trade for draft picks very often, an even then it is some throw in pick. The pick almost always isn't the purpose of the trade.

Lael Collins is available last I heard, I think we should bring him in for a workout for some OL depth.

Replace who?

depth. we just lost another OL

Who?

Michael Dunn went on IR with a calf injury but since Jedrick Wills is a liability then Collins might be a better replacement

For all Wills mediocrity, Collins is not a better replacement

He doesn't give more info than the headline but perhaps DPJ could be a piece to move?

no doubt .. his time here is nearly over. Anything we can get for him is a bonus

AFC North trade targets: Why Browns should reunite with former QB

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Major questions continue to surround QB Deshaun Watson as he deals with a shoulder injury that has kept him sidelined since Week 4. Head coach Kevin Stefanski says Watson is still "day-to-day," but there seems to be less confidence in the $230M quarterback every week.

This is why the Browns should consider reuniting with Brissett, who started 11 games with the team in 2022. His 4-7 record wasn't flashy, but Cleveland's defense, which ranks as the best in total yards allowed per game (200.4) and the fifth-best team in points allowed per game (15.4), is championship caliber.

The Commanders (3-3) seem to be all in on second-year QB Sam Howell, at least for the remainder of the season, and the Browns need better quarterback play. Backup QB P.J. Walker threw for 192 yards and two interceptions in Week 6, and rookie QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson threw for 121 yards and three interceptions in Week 4. Brissett would bring the insurance at quarterback that Cleveland is missing.

totally agree .. a QB room of Watson-Brissett-Walker would make me feel better ... not to mention our short yardage stuff would be so much better