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Top of the wishlist: Aaron Donald, imagine him on this D-line

OL: Kolton Miller LT, a few years on his contract, still young, playing well this season

WR: no thanks, we dont use what we have, bringing in someone, aint gonna help that.

J/C

Washington trading their backup QB when Howell is on pace to be the most sacked QB ever seems doubtful to me.

It's Washington?

Wonder how Jax feels about D Earnest?

he's returning kicks that's all I've seen

No doubt. Probably part of why he hasn't played much. I guess the question is how much value the guy holds? I am not sure some team would offer a whole lot.

yeah, he has limited value anymore .. no production, going to be a free agent .. we'd maybe get a 6th rounder for him

I'd dangle a 5th rounder and PJ Walker at Washington for JBrissett right now

Hi Peen. I’m not sure where you are getting that DPJ hasn’t played much. He has the most snaps of all the receivers. Maybe you meant targets?

Hey P....hope all is well.

Good info. Looks like my speculation is wrong. I'll admit, I follow the ball and don't scan the field to see who is in the game. Right or wrong, if he isn't a target, he isn't in the game.

Why would they want DPJ?
Off memory they have McLaurin, Samuel, and Dotson is in his first or second year

DPJ is a good blocker, especially when we go with a bigger grouping ... oftentimes he'll be the lone WR out there if we go 6 OL and 2 TE

Henry's production this season has not been all that great. Better than what we currently have, but still not great. I have no clue if the Browns like Henry or want to pursue him, but if so, I hope it would include TEN still eating a good chunk of that remaining contract while getting a late round pick....or what Berry seems to like, pick swaps.

I don't think the Browns would be comfortable taking on the remaining contract as it stands. But that's just me.

j/c...

Trading DPJ for a low draft pick would be stooopid.

I don't understand the point of making yourself weaker in a group that is one Cooper injury from crapfest. So that you could fill his role with the same JAG that doesn't even know the offense?

Stupid, stupid, stupid, unless you're adding a proven WR in a separate trade.

I wouldn't trade him either unless we could get a piece in return that would help this year

I agree. Stainbrook speculated trading DPJ and allowing Tillman to step in (though the Browns are not actively shopping him). The Browns are in win now mode. Sure, they'll likely lose DPJ in FA next year, but DPJ has been excellent blocker, catches nearly everything thrown his way and is excellent on contested balls thrown. If anything, I'd say he needs targeted more often.

Trading him and relying on a rookie to step in and take his spot seems like a bad idea given where the Browns are as a team.

From Brad Stainbrook

Donovan Peoples-Jones is an interesting name to watch heading towards the deadline. While the Browns will not go out of the way to move Peoples-Jones, don't rule out the possibility of the team listening to trade offers for the Michigan wide receiver who's in his last year under contract with Cleveland. The team wants to give more opportunities to younger players in the room, like rookie Cedric Tillman, and moving Peoples-Jones for a draft pick would allow for that to happen.

If he is in the game he is a resident of the game.

Not only do I think Henry is not what he used to be, I think he is a shadow of his former self. He has only had two games all season thus far in which he looked good on any level. I don't really expect you to take my word for it but living here in the Nashville area I get a very good look and breakdowns on his performances. Sometimes more than I would care to. I've always been fond of those bigger backs that remind me of the physical running style we used to see more of in the 70's. But that physical style takes a toll on the body with a quickness. And that's what I've been seeing now.

I think the idea of trading DPJ could be an option that may or may not be a good idea. A lot hinges on what the Browns know that we may not. Do they know the likelihood that watson may not return this season? Do they know if watson won't be back for quite some time? Too late to save the season? I'm not saying they do or do not know that but I think it's safe to say they know more about that situation than we do. I have more faith in Tillman than many on this board do. With that being said even I don't have faith that he's ready to fill the role of DPJ.

But IF the Browns know watson won't be coming back any time soon and IF they feel confident they won't be able to sign him to a new contract before he hits the FA market, to me it would make sense to trade him before he walks and you get nothing in return.

On the other hand if frogs had wings they wouldn't hit their asses on the ground every time they landed.

I wouldn't trade for Henry. He's done .. probably will sign somewhere after this year and go 1-2 years in his twilight there

I certainly would love to see the overall scenario you are describing. A reasonable deal on a legitimate upgrade at the RB position as a band aid until Chubb is able to return. I would hope that such an opportunity presents itself.

I think you trade for a backup QB. Its better to have them on standby and not need them than wait until after the deadline and realize Watson is going to be out longer or he reinjures it.. Walker ain't the guy.. I'm actually really suprised he's still the guy and we didn't do anything yet, Watson must be further along than they are letting on. Theres enough tape on walker to see he is not a long term option.

With the Stefanski connections to Minnesota, I've been contemplating a potential Kirk Cousins rental. Don't know if I'd actually do it, but the familiarity could make the on the field part work relatively quickly. Without knowing Watson's injury outcome, it's hard to know how much of him we'll see. Kwesi and Berry could probably make something work on the trade compensation side. Shutting Watson down could potentially be the smart long-term play.

Not sure how much salary we'd have to take on. It would "suck." But it might "salvage" the season. On the other hand, might cause a QB controversy.

Hopefully, Watson gets and stays healthy and none of my speculation matters.

NOOOOOO !!!!!


Worst post you ever posted !!! LOL

Honestly, we've seen more than a handful of QBs here under Stefanski's system.... and, honestly, when looking at the good performances (e.g. throwing out the trash ones like DTR), I don't really see much of a performance difference among them in this system.

Sure, DW ostensibly brings some thing to the table that the others don't, but it has yet to translate into any improvement in the bottom lines. Given that, I'd be perfectly fine bringing in Cousins and sitting Watson until he is perfectly healthy and healed and ready to go.

Bringing in Cousins would be just a Browns thing since 99

It's a horrible idea

Please never say that again

Case Keenum

Kellen Mond

UGH

Some of you crack me up with the cousins hate. Yeah I’d sure hate to have 68% completion with 14tds to 4 int and a 100 qb rating as a backup

You can say that, How many post season wins does he have ?

How many do we have?

Seriously we don’t have the draft capital to trade for cousins so let’s forget about it

I think the only crazy trades we would make would be for a tackle or a backup QB.

I don't see Cousins making his way here. We have too much into Watson and they have too much into Cousins. IMO, though... Cousins sounds like a QB that would actually work with KS. A "do your job" kind of guy. I don't hate it other than all the costs we'd have to eat to make it happen.

It's just occurred to me that New Orleans might be a team that could be convinced to unload some talent.

NOLA is a mess, either carr is straight trash or noone knows what they are supposed to do on offense.. its very difficult to watch.. how they've won 3 games amazes me

The color guys on the broadcast last night were... not complimentary... of the offensive gameplans. I don't follow NOLA at all, so maybe there are some personnel issues for all I know.... but IMO there is WAY too much talent throughout that offense to look as ineffective as they are. Supposedly they swept up Joe Woods once we got rid of him, so I'm immediately biased against their FO decision-making.

Olave, Thomas, and Kamara are so good in that dome .. but they'll go to waste

Can I include 1950 through now ?

If so, 33 appearances with 12 wins

The only good thing about being 62 years old is the memories of some good Browns football

LOL !!

And there it is. How a QB plays on the field makes no difference.

Last year alone the Vikings D gave up 34 points to the Giants in that wildcard game. The Vikings scored 24 points. The fault of that loss clearly rests on the shoulders of Cousins. Come on man.

So, aside from Brisset, are there any other QB’s available???