Getting a guy on the field by shipping off the guy in front of him (who only got a 6th in return) doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
Lions are buyers because they know they're making a run this year.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Don't get me wrong, I really liked the Tillman pick in the draft. But there are several other WR's on this roster they could have sat or replaced with Tillman this season to find out what they had in Tillman rather than trading away DPJ just to find out. I'm not sure how I feel about the trade yet but I think that's a pretty bogus excuse.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
He'll be more productive in Detroit with Goff at QB. Good for DPJ but I hate to see him go. Couldn't we have worked Tillman in and still kept DPJ? And only a 6th rounder? Not the best deal we ever made.
This is similar to shipping Carlos Hyde because Chubb wasn't getting carries because Hue was an idiot. Granted, DPJ ain't no Chubb, but I do believe he's horribly underrated and lately has been victim of extremely bad QB'ing. When he had someone throwing good balls, he was no better than the third receiving option behind Cooper and Njoku (and now Moore).
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I think Moore is more of a bust than DPJ honestly, but you could see that one coming a mile away. Teams like the Jets aren't trading second round picks if they are good.
Granted QB has been an issue, but still...Moore has been a total waste thus far. Maybe better QB play turns that around, but he's such a small target that plays like an outside receiver instead of a slot. Just not sure that combo is going to get you much in the NFL.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
Couldn't we have worked Tillman in and still kept DPJ?
Of course they could have. There are several other WR's that were lower on the depth chart they could have replaced on game days with Tillman before claiming they needed to trade DPJ to "find out" what they have in Tillman. Common sense dictates yo find out what you have in Tillman before you trade DPJ. Not the other way around. The only one I've heard make that claim was someone on Twitter. As far as I know the team said nothing of the sort.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
My understanding is that Washington isn't refusing to trade Brissett. They're just not willing to do it at a bottom basement price and teams aren't willing to pony up a second day pick for him.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
DPJ will be missed from a blocking standpoint ... he gave us some good memories honestly
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
This is similar to shipping Carlos Hyde because Chubb wasn't getting carries because Hue was an idiot. Granted, DPJ ain't no Chubb, but I do believe he's horribly underrated and lately has been victim of extremely bad QB'ing. When he had someone throwing good balls, he was no better than the third receiving option behind Cooper and Njoku (and now Moore).
DPJ wasn't going to be re-signed. They have a guy they like behind him. They got a pick for him.
Not much more to it.
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DPJ is very replaceable. The Browns were not about to Pay top dollar for a dime a dozen WR. All these excuses for DPJ has followed him from Michigan And until now " he hasn't had good QB play blah blah blah " Let's be real DPJ never had a game over 100 yds or even a multi Touchdown game. He is a average WR who occasionally like Once a year made a nice play for the highlights Tillman may turn out to be 10x better than DPJ He played against upper tier NFL caliber CBs at UT And the film doesn't lie DPJ and his 5 career TDs won't be missed
My concern is that Tillman must not be doing much at practice to keep being inactive. If he were good and balling, they'd find a way to get him on the field. I don't think that's the case.
I had/have high hopes for him, but they are fading.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
DPJ Had a 114 yard game, and also a two TD game against the Cardinals. Sad to see him go, He has had a diminished role (along with most) because of the piss poor play of Walker, Watson, and DTR. Hoping he does well for the Lions. Everyone is preaching now we'll finally see Tillman, however I won't be surprised if its Bell playing ahead...If he doesn't show well, then Tillman will get chances later...especially if we collapse.
My concern is that Tillman must not be doing much at practice to keep being inactive. If he were good and balling, they'd find a way to get him on the field. I don't think that's the case.
I had/have high hopes for him, but they are fading.
My thoughts exactly. If they think he was good enough to be DPJ's replacement, why was he inactive every week? He couldn't beat out David Bell?
Has anyone considered DPJ has peaked as a WR. And that Tillman much more upside? Darn if a WR catches more than 45 passes in A year he is a legend around here DPJ is a middle of the road WR. He was never a threat In the Red Zone and for every decent game he had He would disappear for 4.
We got a low level pick for him as apposed to letting him walk after the season. I’d have kept him if we’re serious about making a run this year. Otherwise, he’s gone anyway come spring.
I will say we had a pretty nice productive 3-4 years out of a last round pick ... DPJ is considered a huge success by draft standards. Props to him
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I know this doesn’t make me much of a browns fan but I’ve found myself quasi-rooting for teams with ex browns players on them. The background assumption of course is that their futures are more likely to blossom elsewhere, and maybe escaping the browns will give them some fire. I’ve been kinda rooting for Detroit this year anyway due to similar underdog status and now, hoping DPJ and the lions can really help each other out. I know it’s partly because of my nausea with the team surrounding the Watson decision and inevitable dumpster fire it’s still blooming into but also just getting worn down by unforced errors and sheer bad luck of this organization. /rant
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Couldn't we have worked Tillman in and still kept DPJ?
Of course they could have. There are several other WR's that were lower on the depth chart they could have replaced on game days with Tillman before claiming they needed to trade DPJ to "find out" what they have in Tillman. Common sense dictates yo find out what you have in Tillman before you trade DPJ. Not the other way around. The only one I've heard make that claim was someone on Twitter. As far as I know the team said nothing of the sort.
That “some guy on the internet is a Browns writer who has broken many stories. He is very credible.
The reason I came to the same conclusion is because DPJ and Tillman are the same player with Tillman being more productive in college. DPJ to me has outperformed his draft status and I don’t think we would’ve paid him after the season even if we didn’t draft his replacement.
Also, what receiver would you sit to get Tillman the reps he needs? Goodwin has a specific role that no one else does. Bell is a slot receiver, Tillman is an outside player. Moore hasn’t done a lot imo but he has been open a ton. We ain’t taking any snaps from Cooper.
I would not be shocked if he becomes a very good wr in Detroit
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plus, his run blocking is superb. That will fit their offense
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."