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Yeah, but then Burrow has things he can help teach his backup QB.


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Originally Posted by DaveyD

Jared Arevian must not have seen him on the field working with the QBs in the other games.....


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Originally Posted by DaveyD


I think this is bs honestly

DW was standing on the sideline during pre game warm ups

DW was also along side his teammates before the surgery

I had shoulder surgery and the last thing I wanted was someone to bump into it

Not sure if Burrows wrist injury is as bad as a shoulder surgery

I also noticed Conklin and Ward were not on the sideline

As Pit mentioned, what really is DW going to do to help Flacco

As of now DW is a Cleveland Brown QB and as a fan of the Browns I try to root for the players

Not 100% sure, but I believe certain injuries prevent a player from being on the sideline

So I really don't care what Burrows does, but stop hating on a Browns player

You don't like DW, that's fine.( not at the op ) But to try and make a division rivals QB look better than the Browns QB

Well there's a certain finger on my hand I would like to show you ( to the idiot Jared Arevian Bengals fan )

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
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I think this is bs honestly

DW was standing on the sideline during pre game warm ups

DW was also along side his teammates before the surgery

I had shoulder surgery and the last thing I wanted was someone to bump into it

Not sure if Burrows wrist injury is as bad as a shoulder surgery

I also noticed Conklin and Ward were not on the sideline

As Pit mentioned, what really is DW going to do to help Flacco

As of now DW is a Cleveland Brown QB and as a fan of the Browns I try to root for the players

Not 100% sure, but I believe certain injuries prevent a player from being on the sideline

So I really don't care what Burrows does, but stop hating on a Browns player

You don't like DW, that's fine.( not at the op ) But to try and make a division rivals QB look better than the Browns QB

Well there's a certain finger on my hand I would like to show you ( to the idiot Jared Arevian Bengals fan )

I read that Chubb was also right next to him when this photo was taken. So....


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You mean like one has a set of post op instructions for a soft tissue wrist surgery, and one has a set of post op instructions for a shoulder fracture repair?


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It's been a week since my shoulder surgery, Bicep tenodesis with labrum SLAP tear repair and I definitely feel his pain.

He is being chastised for not being down on the bench during working with Flacco on his first start and who doesn't know the Browns playbook well. Some think the optics are bad. It's the nature of the beast.


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Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers, Nick Chubb and other players/QB's are in suites.

whomever posted this has a vendetta against Watson


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But hey, we need to run the ball...lol


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there was only one instance where I was REALLY dead-set on us running: the 3rd and 3 vs Seattle


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The debate is soooooooooo NOT about "running the ball more" it's about when you run the damn ball. It's not hard.

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yep thats what people confuse.. sure you can run the ball alot, but doesn't mean you're still running it when the situation calls for it


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If the opposing D has stacked the box, is it really called for?


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Originally Posted by superbowldogg

IMO, this is about as solid of an endorsement of Flacco starting from here out as you're going to get. I was as curious and hopeful about DTR as anyone, but if Flacco can get other players to fear our pass-catchers again, sign me up.


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Hoping Flacco remains the starter really doesn't have anything to do with being "hopeful about DTR". At least not for me. I am hopeful about him. He has a skill set and talent that could evolve into being an NFL starter. The thing is his time is not now. He is not far enough along in his development to rely on him as the starter. Not saying the Browns have any great options.

I may very well feel differently about this of the Browns didn't have a shot at the playoffs. If the season was all but lost I may see it as not making any difference in the grand scheme of things and giving DTR time on the field may not be a terrible choice. But that's not where the Browns are. They are in playoff contention and must give the QB which allows this team to have the best chance to win play. There's no question in my mind that the QB to do that is Flacco.


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Oh sure there you go messing up an argument with facts.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
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IMO, this is about as solid of an endorsement of Flacco starting from here out as you're going to get. I was as curious and hopeful about DTR as anyone, but if Flacco can get other players to fear our pass-catchers again, sign me up.

Fear the Browns pass catchers again ?

Were they ever feared ?

The Browns are one dropped pass less then the leagues leader in dropped passes KC Cheifs

Chiefs have had 32 dropped passes

The Browns have had 31

Who's going to fear those pass cathers ?

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by superbowldogg

IMO, this is about as solid of an endorsement of Flacco starting from here out as you're going to get. I was as curious and hopeful about DTR as anyone, but if Flacco can get other players to fear our pass-catchers again, sign me up.

Fear the Browns pass catchers again ?

Were they ever feared ?

The Browns are one dropped pass less then the leagues leader in dropped passes KC Cheifs

Chiefs have had 32 dropped passes

The Browns have had 31

Who's going to fear those pass cathers ?

Exactly. Which one of our fearsome WR's to teams specifically gameplan against? rofl


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Originally Posted by WSU Willie
The debate is soooooooooo NOT about "running the ball more" it's about when you run the damn ball. It's not hard.

And in most cases the situation calls for it the morning after when results show the pass play didn't work.


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Deep analysis on Monday. He shoulda run the ball it was third and one.

I am sure hours of film study was involved. Knowledge of what the opposing defense does in given situations. Knowledge of the match-ups.

Film breakdowns of pre snap looks and post snap movement of defense in man or zone.

He shoulda run the ball.

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Who's going to fear those pass cathers ?


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Originally Posted by bonefish
Deep analysis on Monday. He shoulda run the ball it was third and one.

I am sure hours of film study was involved. Knowledge of what the opposing defense does in given situations. Knowledge of the match-ups.

Film breakdowns of pre snap looks and post snap movement of defense in man or zone.

He shoulda run the ball.

That could be. My comment was more general in nature. It doesn't take a genius to say something wasn't going to work after knowing it didn't work. We see that week after week.


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I get you Peen.

It is others "deep analysis" that gets old.

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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers, Nick Chubb and other players/QB's are in suites.

whomever posted this has a vendetta against Watson

I guess I don't get what the big hubbub is all about. So he sat in a suite.. So what?


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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Deep analysis on Monday. He shoulda run the ball it was third and one.

I am sure hours of film study was involved. Knowledge of what the opposing defense does in given situations. Knowledge of the match-ups.

Film breakdowns of pre snap looks and post snap movement of defense in man or zone.

He shoulda run the ball.

That could be. My comment was more general in nature. It doesn't take a genius to say something wasn't going to work after knowing it didn't work. We see that week after week.

Week after week...season after season...it STILL doesn't work.

THAT is the problem.

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Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers, Nick Chubb and other players/QB's are in suites.

whomever posted this has a vendetta against Watson

I guess I don't get what the big hubbub is all about. So he sat in a suite.. So what?

Check out the pic and tweet posted above. A BS slam piece.


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Browns activate CB Cameron Mitchell from injured reserve, elevate QB Joe Flacco

Browns also downgraded T Dawand Jones to out for Sunday's game against the Jaguars

The Cleveland Browns have activated CB Cameron Mitchell from injured reserve and elevated QB Joe Flacco from the practice squad. To make room on the roster, the team waived QB P.J. Walker.

In addition, T Dawand Jones (knee) has been downgraded to out for Sunday's game.

Mitchell, a fifth-round pick this year, appeared in the first eight games with one start. He sustained a hamstring injury and was placed on injured reserve on Nov. 7 and was designated for return on Dec. 6. Mitchell will wear No. 29.

Flacco (6-6, 245) is in his 16th NFL season out of Delaware. Originally a first-round pick by Baltimore in 2008, Flacco has appeared in 184 games with 181 starts in stints with the Ravens (2008-18), Broncos (2019), Jets (2020-22) and Browns (2023). He has completed 3,904 of 6,343 career passes (61.5 percent) with 234 touchdowns and 148 interceptions. Flacco led the Ravens to a victory in Super Bowl XLVII, while being named the Super Bowl MVP. He was signed to the Browns' practice squad on Nov. 20 and made his Browns debut last week. Flacco will wear No. 15.

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We are hurting at tackle.

Hudson and Christian are below average. Field conditions should be good.

Jags defensively are ranked 30th in pass defense and 5th in run defense.

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We are hurting at tackle.

Hudson and Christian are below average. Field conditions should be good.

Jags defensively are ranked 30th in pass defense and 5th in run defense.

I think that means we should run more. naughtydevil


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championships may come and go but your teams identity only you can decide.


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the running problem? seems simple,
Coach won't go back to a play that got negative a million yards last time they ran it,

b/c well it defys logic, ..

But? If it were LOGICAL IT WOULDN'T BE FREAKING FOOTBALL WOULD IT??

If football were logical they could play it behind a desk, dummy, now go back to the run play that didn't work last time and realize nobody knows everything and the players have to be allowed to play sometimes.

The problem with many coaches may be that if run plays are going for negative 3 or 4 yards, they won't stick with going back to those run plays because just because it went for negative yards that time doesn't mean it will happen again.
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Full respect for David... he drove me nuts in early season... but man.... full respect... hoping he continues to improve


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
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Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers, Nick Chubb and other players/QB's are in suites.

whomever posted this has a vendetta against Watson

I guess I don't get what the big hubbub is all about. So he sat in a suite.. So what?

I agree. You sit where you can afford or are invited to sit.

If given a choice between a suite at the Waldorf or a room at the Motel 6, we know what room people are going to choose. Good gosh.


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What kind of Identity can anyone expect from the Browns in their final five games of the regular season.

What are real reasonable expectations for this team with this messed up offense.

What I mean is, ... what happens if they don't win another game?

Reasons not excuses...
The offensive side of the ball?
Analytics?

at this point I think seven and ten is likely,
Hey, they began seven and three, they were 4 and I after the bye week, we can feel good about that,
but,
they aren't, healthy, e@uipped, or well practiced on offense, even if it were the beginning of a week number one matchup, let alone the final five of a stretch run.

What do you expect,
they haven't fielded a healthy team on offense, in twenty nine years anyway. Bleak.

They WERE a good team, they were,
Ten weeks ago they were a good team, when they traveled to Pitt on Monday night and had a 2 point lead, when they disrupted Tennesee after they did Cincy, they were a good team,

But today, is THE TEAM TODAY a shell of what they were ten to twelve weeks ago?

On offense? it's a joke, and an injured joke, I don't know where the points are going to come from, and THAT is what is so bleak.

Does this look like an aggressive offensive football team? Which is necessary to win games this time of year.

What IDENTITY, do the Browns have going forward.

They are one and two in the last 3, fighting to remain relevant, and the rest of the NFL ain't going to wait, for you to catch up, they will step on you while climbing over you,


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Playoff odds are all well and good. I don't pay much attention to that. To me it's kind of like counting your chickens before they hatch.

I am not saying that to throw a dig at anybody but playoff odds can change pretty quickly with a few losses and or some team winning out. Just win the next game. We will know where we stand when we head in to the last game.


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I see the playoff picture stuff and always loathe the fact that the NFCS gets to host a playoff game


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Playoff odds are all well and good. I don't pay much attention to that. To me it's kind of like counting your chickens before they hatch.

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Really, ask Steelers fans about the odds of them being 9-4 after they played the Pats and Cardinals.

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Thing about the browns right now is that they run gamut in terms of who’s going to show up on any given Sunday. They’re very very inconsistent, mostly due to injury and personnel shakeup. But in front of us I see 4 very winnable games. And I see 4 very losable games. We’re riding a high atm and everyone is loving ol’ Flacco but this can turn quickly. I watched a good deal of him last year on the jets and he had a thing for giving the ball to the other team at key moments. But who knows, maybe he’s born anew and the magic takes hold. But the point is, external stats dont mean much to me when the underlying asset is itself highly volatile.

This is how I’d frame it: we definitely have to win 2, maybe 3. We don’t want to go to Baltimore in game 1 so it’s pretty critical we come away with the 5 or 6 seed. So 3 or 4 wins.




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