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I would grant him at least a two day moratorium for sure.

thanks my guy!

Another Hunt based observation:

When he was in KC, he was frequently used out of the backfield to catch passes, etc. Seems like the Browns only ever use him as a "hammer" and whenever he's in, D's might be ripe for a play-action to him.

Then again - we don't see practice, maybe he Medusa'd his hands or got the Dropsies...who knows?

j/c...

It started last year, and IIRC it coincides with him being a regular fixture on the injury list (this year it's groin, I think it was hammy last year (?)). I think his body is beginning to let him down.

What is also notable (different word than you used) is he wasn't on ANY team anywhere until Chub got hurt. He's done what he can do for the Browns, and that's admirable. He lays it out on every play.

Yes, he has lost his burst, but he’s still a damn good back at level 2 or 3 IMO and I think he now knows it’s not in the cards for him to get that big payday. I hope he’s on the team next year because next to Myles, IMO, he’s our number one locker-room guy and by all accounts a great teammate. I’d take him over strong all day long. When we have our starting line, he still gets good long runs. And hre’s still good for the short yardage and over the top jump runs.

BUT his blocking might need work, unless you missed him getting knocked on his butt against the Bears. That was one he’d like to do over.

If you want to see the concepts of the offense, this is a great review

Burns does a really good job there. It makes sense

Maybe. On broken plays, the receivers route is over, so there isn't a set spot for the qb to throw. He has to wait to make sure the receiver is looking.

In theory the receiver is taught to work towards and back to the QB but once eye contact is made the qb may make some motion for the receiver to start deep.

The major takeaway is Joe can adapt very quickly and defenses just hate that. Especially the LB’s

Yes he puts it out there on every play, he has gotten us a lot of short yardage conversions and scored the most touchdowns (7) rushing since he was with the Chiefs in 18.

That was awesome Milk Man.

Luckily, even though he threw three INTs, he led us to a victory. Just pointing out facts.

Hey it’s December, and we are wot wondering about why the Draft Forum is not up for choices that we do not have.

It’s been an interesting season that did not end with Chubb going down.

KS has become much more comfortable and vocal as he's matured as a head coach. He's here for the long haul IMO

He was the first Browns QB to throw for over 200 yards in the 4th quarter since Brian Sipe. While doing so he led the O to three scoring drives in the 4th quarter. You may call that luck if you wish but I call that coming through in the clutch. When the chips were down and the game was on the line, he came through when it mattered the most. I'll take it.

I'll absolutely take it, too, but I'm still going to keep asking that he take better care of the ball in Qtrs 1 through 3.

While that's true I think one has to consider what we're dealing with here. He's a QB that came off the couch less than a month ago that nobody else wanted. Considering that context I'm pretty happy with the results. It's not like they paid 230 million and 3 1st round draft picks for him.

He was an afterthought. A shot in the dark. I think when we ask something of someone we need to consider context and circumstances. IMO He and Brissett are by far the best return on investment I've seen in decades at the QB position for the Browns.

That doesn't mean I think they should go into next season with Flacco as the starter. I think that kind of talk is crazy. But considering where the Browns were at the QB position when they signed Flacco and the meager price they paid Flacco I'm more than happy. I mean you can't expect a Chevy to keep pace with a Ferrari.

I didn't say I'm unhappy with him or the results, and I fully recognize who and what he is, but I'm still going to keep asking that he take better care of the ball in Qtrs 1 through 3.

It's absolutely wonderful that he can sling it like that in the 4th Qtr and bail us out. On the flip side, if he doesn't basically hand them 14 points early on, he wouldn't have had to.

I don't disagree with you in theory. that's what everyone would hope to see from a complete QB. I'm just fully aware that if Flacco were capable of putting four quality quarters of football together he wouldn't have been sitting in his couch and be wearing a Browns uniform right now. I realize he has limitations that will most likely not permit us to see what it is you're asking for. He is what he is. Hopefully that will be just enough to keep winning games when you combine that with the Browns defense.

To be completely fair, the one interception was a good throw but a phenomenal play by the DB. Thinking of the one on the goal line that was right after we'd hit a turnover ourselves...

I think on another one Tillman either gave up on the route or didn't cut where he was supposed to.

I agree. In baseball a player can whiff 3X in a row, then in the 9th can hit that homer or 3 run scoring double deep in to the gap for a walk off and nobody is thinking about the strikeouts. They are talking about the player being solid in the clutch.

A big part of Joes success the next three games will be getting the big three back playing together: Bitonio, Pocic, and Teller. Joe left some big time plays on the field last game that wasn’t his fault. The patchwork line did alright within reason. It’s understandable. However, there were quite a few pass plays he had to release the ball early to avoid a sack.

As for the running game, watching the play breakdowns I posted earlier the run game had no chance. Between the Bears line and backers doing a great job and also our line either not turning their man or the lineman not getting to their spots in time for the play to develop.

saying an INT is not the @uarterbacks fault at all is a lot like blaming a holder for a missed FG or PAT.

Go Browns

We want Moore.