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#facts:

The Trump administration imposed consequences for illegal immigration and ended “catch and release.” It worked.

The Biden administration stopped imposing any consequences for illegal immigration. In fact, it has sought to make illegal immigration easier.

A jaw-dropping 3.8 million people have entered the United States through its borders since President Joe Biden took office in 2021.

Biden rewards every migrant with food, transportation and billions in accomodations at 4 star hotels.

Biden reversed every Trump border policy on day one.

The border crisis shows the biggest lack of leadership in the history of U.S. Presidents.

Blaming the border crisis on Trump is like blaming global warming on the Big Bang.


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The fact you refuse to admit that by your own post it proves that it all started under trump. You just don't like that fact. Maybe next time be more careful that you don't post something you refuse to man up to later. Billions in four star accommodations?

You do realize that all of these republican governors are claiming their states are the ones footing the bill for all of these illegals. Then you sit here and claim Biden is doing it. All of you need to get in a room and figure out which story you're going with here.


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It didn't all start under Trump. It started decades ago. Trump said there would be a crisis. Crybaby ilk said "orange man bad" and did everything possible to thwart any actions he took. Biden became president and opened the borders (with free prizes) causing the biggest migration catastrophe in the history of America.

You would have to be brain-dead to blame this on Trump.

You'd have to be a brain-dead troll to think anyone would co-sign just because Trump's name is included on a graph... that shows a line taking off like a rocket when Sleepy Joe takes over.

All these things are clearly understood by 98% of children reaching the age of eight.


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You may wish to look again. I'm not sure what you can't see here. There was a huge increase under trump that continued under Biden. Then things leveled off and even went down in some months. Then look when the line began to go straight. In May. Now you can toss all the bluster and GOP party line that you want, but the very chart that you posted tells the story. Started increasing greatly under trump. Continued to rise under Biden. Began some resemblance of stability wavering up and down then skyrocketing the very month the Covid restrictions ended. Despite all of your bluster it's right their on your chart.

Obviously you must be part of that 2%.


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Are you blind? Do you need glasses? There was an immediate massive increase as soon as Biden took office and rolled back all of Trumps restrictions. By all means keep lying and trolling. Because you have nothing.


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None are so blind as those who refuse to see. The rise started well before Biden became president. It's right there in front of your eyes.


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The rise in antisemitism started well before Hitler.

Holocaust no big deal then?


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They are both big deals. Just kike the current situation on the border is a big deal. There needs to be a lot more border agents and a lot more immigration judges to deal with the backlog of immigration hearings as a starter and I think there needs to be adjustments made to our immigration policies. That's something currently being negotiated between the GOP and the Biden administration.

I don't think there are many people that don't see it as a big issue. That includes the Biden administration. The only question remaining and being treated like a political football is how to best address the problem moving forward.

As you pointed out, antisemitism didn't start with Hitler. It started before Hitler. And that's what I've been saying about the border crisis. It started before Biden. That doesn't change the fact that it's continued getting worse.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
They are both big deals. Just kike the current situation on the border is a big deal. There needs to be a lot more border agents and a lot more immigration judges to deal with the backlog of immigration hearings as a starter and I think there needs to be adjustments made to our immigration policies. That's something currently being negotiated between the GOP and the Biden administration.

I don't think there are many people that don't see it as a big issue. That includes the Biden administration. The only question remaining and being treated like a political football is how to best address the problem moving forward.

As you pointed out, antisemitism didn't start with Hitler. It started before Hitler. And that's what I've been saying about the border crisis. It started before Biden. That doesn't change the fact that it's continued getting worse.

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Haven't you been paying attention? Nobody said it didn't need to be addressed. In this very thread it was discussed how Biden had asked for money to hire more border patrol agents, more immigration and increased technology at the border. Once again when you have no legitimate reply and no desire to engage in conversation you offer up another mindless meme. Learn to use your words.


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You missed the joke. Look at the highlighted part of your post above.


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Texas tired of playing games... Hopefully we're all stocked up on tomatoes.



Texas blocks federal border agents from processing migrants in Eagle Pass public park

By Camilo Montoya-Galvez
Updated on: January 12, 2024 / 11:23 AM EST / CBS News

Washington — Texas state officials this week abruptly blocked federal U.S. Border Patrol agents from entering and patrolling a public area in the border town of Eagle Pass where they typically first encounter migrants who cross the Rio Grande illegally, two U.S. officials told CBS News on Thursday.

After seizing control of Shelby Park in Eagle Pass, Texas National Guard units deployed by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott have prevented Border Patrol agents from entering the area, the federal officials said. Border Patrol has used the park in recent weeks to hold migrants in an outdoor staging area before they are transported for further processing, including last month, when illegal crossings soared to record levels.

Earlier Thursday, Texas state officials prevented Border Patrol boats from patrolling that area, one of the officials added, requesting anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the press.

"They are denying entry to Border Patrol agents to conduct our duties," the official said, noting they are not sure "what authority (Texas officials) have over the federal government."


In a filing early Friday with the Supreme Court, the Justice Department described the extraordinary standoff between Texas and the federal government. Citing testimony from local officials and photos, the Justice Department said Texas was using armed Guardsmen and vehicles to deny Border Patrol agents and federal National Guard soldiers access to roughly 2.5 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border.

"Texas's new actions," the Justice Department said, "demonstrate an escalation of the State's measures to block Border Patrol's ability to patrol or even to surveil the border and be in a position to respond to emergencies."

Under federal law, Border Patrol has a legal responsibility to process migrants on U.S. soil and determine whether to detain them, transfer them to another agency, deport them or release them into the country, pending a court hearing. The international boundary between the U.S. and Mexico is located in the middle of the Rio Grande in Texas.

Eagle Pass Mayor Rolando Salinas said the small city, which administers Shelby Park, did not give Texas state officials permission to take over the area. "This is not something that we wanted," Salinas said Thursday. "This is not something that we asked for as a city."

Michael Perry, a spokesperson for the Texas Military Department, which oversees the state National Guard, said the actions taken by the state were designed to prevent illegal crossings by migrants.

"The Texas National Guard has maintained a presence with security points and temporary barrier in Shelby Park since 2021," Perry said in a statement. "The current posture is to prepare for future illegal immigrant surges and to restrict access to organizations that perpetuate illegal immigrant crossings in the park and greater Eagle Pass area."

In a statement Friday regarding the events in Eagle Pass, White House spokesperson Angelo Fernández Hernández said Texas was seeking to "politicize the border."

"Governor Abbott continues his extreme political stunts that not only seek to demonize and dehumanize people, but that also make it harder and more dangerous for Border Patrol to do their jobs," Fernández Hernández said.

The seizure of Shelby Park is the latest and most brazen effort by Texas state officials to challenge the federal government's authority on immigration. Under Abbott's leadership, Texas has bused tens of thousands of migrants to Democratic-led cities, arrested thousands of migrant adults on trespassing charges and fortified the banks of the Rio Grande with razor wire and floating barriers.

Last month, Abbott signed a law known as SB4 that would allow Texas law enforcement officials to arrest, jail and prosecute migrants on state criminal charges of entering the country illegally. The law, which criminalizes an action already illegal at the federal level, is being challenged in federal court by the Justice Department and civil rights groups. It is set to take effect in March.


In an affidavit attached to the Supreme Court filing, Robert Danley, a top Customs and Border Protection official in Eagle Pass, said Texas' actions were preventing his agents from patrolling the Rio Grande and processing migrants, including those who may be in distress. The park's seizure by the state, Danley said, has also reduced Border Patrol's surveillance capability in that area by 90% and created safety risks for both migrants and agents.

Now, Border Patrol is being forced to process migrants near a busy highway, Danley added.

"Without access to the staging area, mobile intake and loading onto transportation must occur on the shoulder along Loop 480, a busy two-lane highway most frequently used by commercial traffic traveling at a high speed," Danley wrote. "Because of the lack of physical space, there is an increased risk to both migrants and agents of traffic-related injury."

When he asked Texas officials to explain their actions, Danley said he was "advised that Texas does not want Border Patrol to be able to arrest, process, or transport migrants out of the identified area."


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As far as typos go - that was a doozey.


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In other words. “Take your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Take these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, BACK!!!!! Stay out of the land of the free and the wealthy. We don’t want you. This is the land of opportunity for those who aren’t replacing US.


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Yes committing a crime by blocking federal officials from doing their job is such a noble thing. When people can't tell the difference between actually trying to protect the border from a political stunt reactions like yours is what we see.


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"committing a crime" 🤣

Oh, the irony.


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What are you talking about? Law dictates that immigration is a federal issue.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) engages in immigration enforcement actions to prevent unlawful entry into the United States and to apprehend and repatriate noncitizens who have violated or failed to comply with U.S. immigration laws. Primary responsibility for the enforcement of immigration law within DHS rests with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). CBP enforces immigration laws at and between the ports of entry, ICE is responsible for interior enforcement and for detention and removal operations, and USCIS adjudicates applications and petitions for immigration and naturalization benefits.

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What are you talking about? Law dictates that immigration is a federal issue.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) engages in immigration enforcement actions to prevent encourage unlawful entry into the United States and to apprehend and repatriate noncitizens who have violated or failed to comply with U.S. immigration laws. Primary responsibility for the enforcement of immigration law within DHS rests with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). CBP enforces immigration laws at and between the ports of entry, ICE is responsible for interior enforcement and for detention and removal operations, and USCIS adjudicates applications and petitions for immigration and naturalization benefits.

https://www.dhs.gov/ohss/topics/immigration/enforcement-AFR

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You didn't fix anything. All you are dong is making excuses why Abbott is above the law.


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J/C...

I'm glad Texas is growing a set. Let's see if Sleepy Joe has the balls to damage his election prospects even further. I suspect not.


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I'm glad to see you openly encourage Republicans obstructing immigration officials from doing their job. But then many of you no longer care about the law when you want what you want.


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I'm glad you're here to cry crocodile tears about it while your feckless leader tries to find his way out of the bathroom to blame it all on Trump.

Somebody has to do something about this disaster.


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They should. Legally. Immigration laws and guidelines need to be overhauled. That is currently being negotiated between the GOP and the Biden administration. Some wannabe John Wayne acting governor has no place in that process. This is one park along of a total of 1254 miles of border that Texas shares with Mexico. The impact of such an action is negligible in the grand scheme of things. It's a political stunt plain and simple.

Just like that razor wire immigrants keep lifting up and crawling under. It hasn't stopped anyone or anything. The fact people keep falling for these stunts i find simply amazing. And many of them are otherwise intelligent people.


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The "political stunt" started on the day Sleepy fell into the seat and opened the border to appease his puppeteers.


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Sometimes I have no idea whether you're actually serious or not. The rise in border crossings began to increase significantly before Biden was president. You're the very poster who provided that evidence. The increase spiked even more at the end of the covid restrictions on immigration.


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I'm dead serious. You are straight TROLLING. Biden has let 8 million cross the border and you're still trying to blame Trump.


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So the chart you provided showing all of this started under trump before Biden was ever elected was trolling? I didn't make that news. You did. I'm just reminding you about it.


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It started when one caveman entered another's cave. Duh. Therefore Sleepy Joe bears no responsibility for his own absurd actions that have led to the biggest migration disaster in the history of the planet Earth. That's all Trump's fault.

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See, that's how your mind works. You think it's a matter of blame. You somehow feel that the fact I'm using your own Chart to show this huge rise in immigration started under trump is me somehow blaming trump. And why do you think that? Because that's all you know how to do is place blame on whoever sits in the White House for everything.

This immigration crisis simply began under trump. It has continued under Biden. It's the fault of the immigration laws. A president can not rewrite immigration law. I'm not blaming it on trump or Biden. The blame game is your pastime. Currently the GOP congress and Biden are working out trying to improve this situation. Hopefully, yet doubtfully both sides can work together to solve this crisis. Like one of them said and I posted last week, "Why would we want to do anything that helps Biden look good?"

Because they're more concerned about continuing to keep the situation the way it is rather than actually try and fix it so they can use it as a political weapon. Just like you're doing.

I'm sure you would rather argue with carpet fibers. They can't call you out on your BS and political one liner gotchya lines.


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“The only thing we are not doing is we’re not shooting people who come across the border, because, of course, the Biden administration would charge us with murder,”

John Wayne... I mean Gov. Gregg Abbott of Texas.

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Aren't you the one always whining when people use whatabouts? rofl

I thought you said you were done? Did you get bored talking to carpet fibers?

Have you heard the latest news? When you pour water on a magnet it no longer works.


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I guess Abbott has decided if you can't shoot them, drown them......

US says Texas blocked border agents from entering park to try to save 3 migrants who drowned

BROWNSVILLE, Texas (AP) — The U.S. Homeland Security Department said Saturday that Texas denied federal agents access to a stretch of border when they were trying to rescue three migrants who drowned.

The federal government’s account came hours after U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar said the Texas Military Department and Texas National Guard “did not grant access to Border Patrol agents to save the migrants” Friday night. Mexican authorities recovered the bodies of a woman and two children Saturday across the border from Eagle Pass, Texas.

“This is a tragedy, and the State bears responsibility,” said Cuellar, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee’s subcommittee for homeland security, in a statement.

The drownings come amid escalating tensions between Texas and the U.S. government over immigration enforcement. On Friday, the Justice Department told the U.S. Supreme Court that Texas had taken control of an area in Eagle Pass known as Shelby Park and were not letting Border Patrol agents enter.

The Texas Military Department said in a statement Saturday night that one of its units had searched the river after Border Patrol alerted them of the situation but did not find any migrants. The statement did not address the U.S. government’s claims that Texas authorities had “physically barred” Border Patrol agents from entering the park at the time.

Homeland Security echoed Cuellar’s account of the distress call. In a filing to the U.S. Supreme Court on Saturday, Texas acknowledged seizing the city park on the border but said the federal government had mischaracterized its actions and it was trying to resolve any disputes over access.

“In responding to a distress call from the Mexican government, Border Patrol agents were physically barred by Texas officials from entering the park,” Homeland Security said in a statement. “The Texas governor’s policies are cruel, dangerous, and inhumane, and Texas’s blatant disregard for federal authority over immigration poses grave risks.”

The park lies in a major corridor for migrants entering illegally from Mexico and is the center of Abbott’s aggressive attempts to stop them, known as Operation Lone Star. Migrants are periodically swept away to their deaths by the current of the Rio Grande.

Abbott’s office referred questions about the drownings to the Texas Military Department, which said its security personnel saw Mexican authorities responding to an incident across the river about 45 minutes after Border Patrol made the state aware of the situation. The department said it maintains water rescue equipment and works with local paramedics to assist migrants needing medical care.

“At no time did TMD security personnel along the river observe any distressed migrants, nor did TMD turn back any illegal immigrants from the US during this period,” the department said in the statement.

Cuellar, who represents a Texas border district, said Mexican authorities alerted the Border Patrol to the distressed migrants struggling in the river late Friday. He said federal agents attempted to call and relay the information to Texas National Guard members at Shelby Park, without success. Agents then visited the entrance to the park but were turned away, according to the congressman, who said they were told a Guard member would be sent to investigate the situation.

The 50-acre park is owned by the city, but it is used by the state Department of Public Safety and the Texas Military Department to patrol border crossings. Although daily crossings diminished from the thousands to about 500, state authorities put up fences and stationed military vehicles by the entry to deny access to the public and Border Patrol agents this week, according to a court filing.

In its Supreme Court filing, Texas challenged claims that Border Patrol agents were denied access. They said the Border Patrol has scaled down its presence since summer, when the state moved its resources and manpower to the park.

Federal agents were also granted access to the area to secure supplies, the state said.

Cuellar said there was no immediate information available about the victims’ nationalities, relationship and ages. The Mexican government made no public statements.

On Saturday members of the public held a ceremony at the park to mark the deaths of migrants in their region. Julio Vasquez, a pastor, said access was granted after making requests with the city and sharing pictures showing the entry still fenced up and guarded by members of the National Guard and military vehicles.

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You are selling such fantasy land stuff. Keep at it and you may find some brain dead folks who will buy it. But most Americans know too much. They know that under Trump his worst month , his worst year, were better than Biden’s best month and his best year. They know that there were more encounters at the border in 2023 under Biden that there were from 2017-2020 under Trump. That is the disaster that has blown up our border under Biden. Biden could take the steps necessary to start to reverse this mess. He could be Trump 2.0 with border policies. Lots of the more “normal” dems are asking him to do more to deal with it. But he has the looney lefties pretty much calling the shots.

We do not need “comprehensive immigration reform “ to deal with this . We just need a pres who puts Americans first . And illegals you see wading across the rio grande, digging under a border fence or coming thru a hole in the wall are not applying for amnesty. They are illegal immigrants and should be loaded into buses and shipped back where they came from. For those who come to ports of entry we should hire thousands of amnesty referees and station hundreds at each port of entry. Amnesty claims should be acted upon within days not years, and until the ruling happens they remain in Mexico or are detained at the border. No one is released into America.

These simple steps will help reduce encounters at the border. Here is a simple rule to remember. If you reward something you will get more of it. If we stop rewarding illegals when they arrive they will stop arriving.

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Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
You are selling such fantasy land stuff. Keep at it and you may find some brain dead folks who will buy it.

Amen. You've have to be brain dead to actually believe any of this. Either that or you are simply too lazy to seek the truth.

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“TMD was contacted by Border Patrol at approximately 9:00 pm on Friday in reference to a migrant distress situation. TMD had a unit in the vicinity of the boat ramp and actively searched the river with lights and night vision goggles. No migrants were observed,” the agency said. “At approximately 9:45 pm, TMD observed a group of Mexican authorities responding to an incident on the Mexico side of the river bank. TMD reported their observations back to Border Patrol, and they confirmed that the Mexican authorities required no additional assistance. At that time, TMD ceased search operations.”

These people drowned in MEXICO. Why? Because they tried to cross a river at night. End of story. That ^ ish above is like trying to blame a drunk driving death on bad brakes.

Furthermore, we average over one drowning per day... so all the other drownings mush be the fault of border patrol, right? RIGHT? I mean if you're going to spew things that are this brain dead, may as well go full circle.


Instead, we have headlines like this from liberal rags like the Guardian with NO accountability.

Texas officials block US border agents from helping three drowning migrants


This crap doesn't stop until there is accountability for this trash. Good job spreading more lies Pit. thumbsup


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Abbott should be drug through his barbed wire barriers for his inhumanity. And anyone thinking death is fine for illegals trying to cross is truly evil. Now I’m not saying let them stay, but killing them is not cool at all. As a matter of fact, Abbott should be prosecuted for murder just because he’s a POS.


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THOSE are some well constructed, fair minded thoughts.


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You have to fight fire with fire. Only way to shut down a GOPer fanboy is to be a bigger a-hole than the guy on the right… that takes practice and dedication to master.


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