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I just haven't seen anything to indicate that the parting of the ways between BB and the Pats was confrontational. I don't think BB has some vendetta against Kraft. Not saying that the Jets wouldn't pose an interesting situation for BB but not for the reasoning you're using in regards to sticking it to Kraft. And as others have said I don't feel Saleh is doing a bad job under the circumstances.


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Oh I agree. It would definitely blow the media doors off.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I just haven't seen anything to indicate that the parting of the ways between BB and the Pats was confrontational. I don't think BB has some vendetta against Kraft. Not saying that the Jets wouldn't pose an interesting situation for BB but not for the reasoning you're using in regards to sticking it to Kraft. And as others have said I don't feel Saleh is doing a bad job under the circumstances.

Although, he lost a QB in week 1 and his season fell apart. Stefanski lost his QB middle of the season and found a saving grace at QB. One that was let go by Saleh. Just saying.... Everyone has excuses and victims recite their issues and leaders' true leaders lead no matter what is put in front of them. I am sure glad the Browns have Stefanski vs Saleh.


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I agree with you about Saleh but what a story it would be. BB returning to the Jets same division as the Pats and a team that can win today. The drama would be off the charts and make the Jets the most talked about team in sports, even more than Dallas if that’s possible!!

Plus, didn't BB take a job with the Jets and then reject them before going to New England?


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Listening to local sports radio here in New England it sounds like it was a mutual parting of the ways between BB and Robert Kraft. However, IMO, I don’t think BB really wanted to leave. He had complete control, his son was a coach and he was allegedly making 25 million a year. They said it was an amicable decision agreed to by both men but BB has a big ego and alot of pride and respect that was well earned. I think he would like nothing better than to coach against the Pats.

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Yes that’s true but the Jets ownership was different then. Look, this is all conjecture by myself at this point but what drama it would be and the sports talk shows in New York and New England would be off the charts not to mention the national shows on television every day. Unfathomable might be a good word LOL 😆

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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
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I just haven't seen anything to indicate that the parting of the ways between BB and the Pats was confrontational. I don't think BB has some vendetta against Kraft. Not saying that the Jets wouldn't pose an interesting situation for BB but not for the reasoning you're using in regards to sticking it to Kraft. And as others have said I don't feel Saleh is doing a bad job under the circumstances.

Although, he lost a QB in week 1 and his season fell apart. Stefanski lost his QB middle of the season and found a saving grace at QB. One that was let go by Saleh. Just saying.... Everyone has excuses and victims recite their issues and leaders' true leaders lead no matter what is put in front of them. I am sure glad the Browns have Stefanski vs Saleh.

I prefer Stefanski over Saleh as well. I think that Stefanski combined with Berry helped us avoid disaster on the personnel front, with all of our injuries. Saleh is more of a defensive guru and he had that side of the ball playing very well. That being said, I don't think more than a couple coaches right now could have dealt with injuries the way Stefanski and Berry did.


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And yet Saleh still has a job. It seems those that really matter, the Jets FO and ownership disagree with you. I agree with their decision.


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Right Pit but BB just became available yesterday. Someone in New York could be contemplating the situation. Being able to hire arguably the greatest coach of all time to a team ready to win now is tempting. It makes the Jets as relevant as any team in the league maybe more and let’s face it, it’s short term.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And yet Saleh still has a job. It seems those that really matter, the Jets FO and ownership disagree with you. I agree with their decision.

Probably has more to do with Nathaniel Hackett being the offensive coordinator. If the Jets want Aaron Rogers back, they have to have Hackett as OC. That was the reason Rogers choose the Jets. If Rogers would have said I'm done, I retire the Jets would have fired Saleh. Bottom line was he let Flacco walk and choose Zach Wilson to back up Rogers. Then choose another QB to try to replace Wilson. None were named Flacco. Flacco was a Jet last year and his success this year are making the Jets look bad.


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Good points. Sounds like the Jets need to make a big splash!!!

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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
If Rogers would have said I'm done, I retire the Jets would have fired Saleh.

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Bottom line was he let Flacco walk and choose Zach Wilson to back up Rogers. Then choose another QB to try to replace Wilson. None were named Flacco. Flacco was a Jet last year and his success this year are making the Jets look bad.

Flacco sucked when he played for the Jets.


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
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And yet Saleh still has a job. It seems those that really matter, the Jets FO and ownership disagree with you. I agree with their decision.

Probably has more to do with Nathaniel Hackett being the offensive coordinator. If the Jets want Aaron Rogers back, they have to have Hackett as OC. That was the reason Rogers choose the Jets. If Rogers would have said I'm done, I retire the Jets would have fired Saleh. Bottom line was he let Flacco walk and choose Zach Wilson to back up Rogers. Then choose another QB to try to replace Wilson. None were named Flacco. Flacco was a Jet last year and his success this year are making the Jets look bad.


I follow the Jets closely. Been kind of a hobby of mine since Baker - Darnold. Saleh is a poor head coach. He's more cheerleader than leader. His pressers are very cringe. Pretty stark contrast between him and Stefanski. Him and the GM remaining are due to Rodgers signing up to play for them and not getting a chance to do that this year. They do have poor ownership as well. In a lot of ways, the Jets are the new Browns.

If Rodgers was not a part of the equation, Saleh and Joe Douglas would have been gone and they'd be in the market for both a coach and GM.

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Where BB goes will be fascinating.

The Chargers have Herbert but somehow I don't see BB as a west coast guy.

Washington? Atlanta? The Titans have Will Levis that may be attractive.

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As everyone knows New England hired Jerod Mayo as coach. They were saying on local sports radio that it was written in his contract so that's why he was hired. Now they're looking for a GM. Not the right thing to do. Didn't we do something like that once? How did that turn out? You hire the GM and he hires HIS coach. The Pats organization isn't what it used to be.

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We hired Stefanski before we hired Berry. That seems to have worked out pretty well. I don't think it matters all that much.


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If the GM/HC is not in sync and in any way incompatible.

It cannot work. There must be trust and respect.

That is why I am optimistic about the Browns future. AB and KS work well together. There is mutual respect and they trust each other to do their job.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
If the GM/HC is not in sync and in any way incompatible.

It cannot work. There must be trust and respect.

That is why I am optimistic about the Browns future. AB and KS work well together. There is mutual respect and they trust each other to do their job.

I agree. That trust and respect isn't dependent on hiring the GM first.


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In a case like this it does not matter.

They are going to replace both HC and GM. So, make sure they can work together.

I remember when Marty was in SD and he did not get along with the GM. He got let go and he won I believe 12 games.

We have a good thing going. KS and AB appear seamless. They know their jobs and they know the other guy will do his job.

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In a case like this it does not matter.

They are going to replace both HC and GM. So, make sure they can work together.

I remember when Marty was in SD and he did not get along with the GM. He got let go and he won I believe 12 games.

We have a good thing going. KS and AB appear seamless. They know their jobs and they know the other guy will do his job.

This isn't me raining on the parade when I add that Haslam has played a huge part in this by providing an open checkbook to the FO...a big, fat, wide-open checkbook.

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Dare we say Haslam has become a good owner?

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He "became" a good owner many years ago.


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And some people say they don't believe in evolution when they have witnessed it with their own eyes. naughtydevil

Let's not pretend he didn't suck at it when this whole thing started.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And some people say they don't believe in evolution when they have witnessed it with their own eyes. naughtydevil

Let's not pretend he didn't suck at it when this whole thing started.

I am sure John Lennon and Paul McCartney sucked pretty bad their first several years while learning to play guitar.

I have always said it isn't how it starts, it's how it ends.


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I agree. Actually that's the point I was trying to make. I think from Stefanski to Berry to Haslam they have all gown as time has went on. It's been an evolutionary process. Without that process the Browns wouldn't be where they are now.


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Dare we say Haslam has become a good owner?

The guy chose Hue Jackson over Sashi Brown and that (correct) FO direction so I won't absolve him just yet as it was only two regimes ago.

That said, he did bring back as many as he could in Berry, signed Stefanski who was the choice the first time around by everyone but John Dorsey, and kept Depo throughout the whole crap storm that was the Dorsey regime (what a clown). So, yeah, he's learning I suppose.


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While at this point it's only a rumor I found it to be an interesting one.....

Chargers head coach rumors: L.A. set to interview Jim Harbaugh next week amid mounting interest
Harbaugh has reportedly indicated he could leave Michigan to take over in L.A.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...nAXH6Y7SAPa6duSNpVm-hfbIozFTmfNAb3OOf4HE


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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.

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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.


Shut up.


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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.


Shut up.
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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.


Shut up.
LoL!!
I want to hear you defend the 4th and 2 call on our own 30 half way through the third quarter being down 2 scores. Lot of football left to play but what the hell lets push all the chips in right now, all in baby!!

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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.


Shut up.
LoL!!
I want to hear you defend the 4th and 2 call on our own 30 half way through the third quarter being down 2 scores. Lot of football left to play but what the hell lets push all the chips in right now, all in baby!!

I believe it was with 5 minutes left in the third. We were down 3 scores not 2. I’m good with the decision


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I agree with the decision as well.

But Stefanski does panic when the team is down. He treats just about every drive in those situations like it will be his last.

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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.


Shut up.
LoL!!
I want to hear you defend the 4th and 2 call on our own 30 half way through the third quarter being down 2 scores. Lot of football left to play but what the hell lets push all the chips in right now, all in baby!!

We were down three scores with 4 minutes left. Not that the facts matter.


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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.


Shut up.
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I want to hear you defend the 4th and 2 call on our own 30 half way through the third quarter being down 2 scores. Lot of football left to play but what the hell lets push all the chips in right now, all in baby!!

We were down three scores with 4 minutes left. Not that the facts matter.
No matter, defend it all you want. Your handing them points going for it that deep in your own territory. They out schemed us the whole game. We got ZERO points after halftime adjustments, Stephanski can't make adjustments and this has been the case all year.

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After tonights perfomance we should pursue BB, our failure at the coaching level at this point should be evident for all to see.


Shut up.
LoL!!
I want to hear you defend the 4th and 2 call on our own 30 half way through the third quarter being down 2 scores. Lot of football left to play but what the hell lets push all the chips in right now, all in baby!!

We were down three scores with 4 minutes left. Not that the facts matter.
No matter, defend it all you want. Your handing them points going for it that deep in your own territory. They out schemed us the whole game. We got ZERO points after halftime adjustments, Stephanski can't make adjustments and this has been the case all year.


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Cool story. Let's go get Bill, he's 29-38 since Brady left.

BTW, I didn't defend anything, just corrected your b.s. exaggeration.


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Glad we have stefanski.

The end.


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Cool story. Let's go get Bill, he's 29-38 since Brady left.

BTW, I didn't defend anything, just corrected your b.s. exaggeration.

LoL!

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Glad we have stefanski.

The end.
As the saying goes, there's always next year.

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