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https://www.nfl.com/news/commanders-expected-to-move-on-from-hc-ron-rivera-after-four-seasons (Link)

One of the most, if not the most, overrated HC is the past decade or so.

yeah, he's been so below average

I chuckle every time I hear Bill Simmons refer to him as Rowboat Ron.

Monday and next week in general will see coaching turnovers. It's an annual event. There is a meeting taking place here in Nashville with Vrabel and the top brass to determine the fate of Vrabel moving forward as well. We'll be hearing more of this in the upcoming days. Here are some that may be on the chopping block and there may even be a few other surprises sprinkled in....

Bill Belichick, New England Patriots.

Robert Saleh, New York Jets.

Mike Vrabel, Tennessee Titans.

Ron Rivera, Washington Commanders.

Matt Eberflus, Chicago Bears.

Maybe Brandon Staley depending on the outcome of how the Jags game works out today.

Arthur Smith of Atlanta may be a contender.

The upcoming week should be an interesting one.

UGH! Seven coaches, really hoped all the teams liked their HCs.

Inevitable, Part of the game

Now it's time for Jim Schwartz to start saying

No No No No No No and NO !!

That list by no means indicates they will all be fired. Just coaches that many think will be considered to be let go. It seems most years there are some coaches people expect to be fired that aren't and some coaches few expected to be fired that are. That's what will make next week so interesting. Nobody can be sure how it will all shake out.

Would it surprise you, if Vrabel ends up replacing Belichick in New England ?

I know it's early and like you said it's just list of posibilities.

It would slightly surprise me but not shock me. Vrabel has had a very bad season this year but then they've never given him a real QB. Under the conditions he has coached under, most seasons he has over performed.

I agree with the possibility of that list.

But I'm confused, Brandon Staley?

I think New England is in the same situation at QB play as is Tennesee.

New England having the third overall pick might help Vrabel get his QB if he would end up there

I know this conversation is all speculation, just having a little fun with it

Staley was fired weeks ago. Where have you people been.

In the end i think Vrabel sticks. The Titans are pretty much in control of the Jags at the moment.

Stuck in a Crazy Browns Season Warp !

Beem me up Stefanski !

Pretty obvious they meant Pederson.

j/c:

I think Arthur Smith is a no-brainer to be fired.

Need to clear his desk for Belichick.

I’d be shocked if he doesn’t end up there.

Definitely an obvious choice. Though he did make some staff changes two months ago by firing his mustache. So the change might buy him another year with the FO.

Girl ! I miss you !

Arthur Smith is gone I agree

Welcome back, Jules.
You've been missed.


(smiling ear-to-ear as I type)

I think he meant Doug Pederson, who I had mentioned as being a possible firing case in the playoffs forum. What a complete bed-crapping the Jags have done. 8-3 after Week 12 and they miss the playoffs. Lost 5 of the last 6 with the lone victory being against the worst team in the NFL.

Smith got fired already.

I don't think Saleh will be fired. He had a QB quagmire after their prized possession went down 4 plays into the season.

I'd list Eberflus as a maybe. I could see it either way.

I think the following teams will be looking for new coaches:

Panthers
Commanders
Falcons
Patriots
Seahawks


and MAYBE:

Cowboys
Bills
Eagles

Because even pedophiles said that looked 'too pedo'.

Tomlin's not on the hot seat anymore?

IMO Tomlin never was on the hot seat ... only by the fans, not by his bosses

It's really amazing how fickle their fans are. I do think they have a "bloated" fan base because of their decades of winning. Mind you, I think they also have a very strong core group of fans as well (sk8termom included), giving them a very huge fan base. The problem is that the bandwagon faction - and even some of the core faction - are like a bunch of spoiled kids:

"You can have only one dessert tonight, instead of two."

"You are the worst parents ever! I want other parents!"

They got stuck in a rough situation because they couldn't figure out the QB after Ben retired. They couldn't figure out the QB because they never draft in a position to get a good one. Pickett looks like he won't work out, which is just the way of things. The fans wanted Tomlin fired as a result. Now that they're in the playoffs, it's all sunshine a rainbows. If they get a first round exit, then it'll be back to wanting Tomlin's head.

It's actually a hard situation for them to resolve. How do you get out of being perennially good, but not elite? Not too many teams can figure that out. Hell, New England has been irrelevant since Brady left. It seems Baltimore is the only team with the secret formula.

Sadly, IMO a lot of coaches lose their jobs because of the failings of their FO. Their FO fails to get them the players, most often especially at the QB position and use their HC as the fall guy for their own shortcomings.

It's why I finally feel like we have a good cohesion between our GM and coaching staff

They do. But that's much easier to do when you're winning. Even the past few seasons haven't been bad. How well an organization has continuity or cohesion only gets tested when things are going badly. Everyone loves a winner or a team that is at least competitive inside the organization. At least for the most part.

If things go south and the Browns were to start doing terribly I have no idea who the blame would fall on. Well, actually most of us should know. For anyone who has been reading the board the past few years we know it would be blamed on Stefanski. That didn't stop until he started winning games while they should have just made a QB jersey that said "PLACE NAME HERE" on it. Then suddenly everyone loved him.

well, he'll be the best candidate on the market

I think he ended up paying the price for the Titans FO lack of making the proper investment to get him a QB. A third round pick in 2022 for Malik Willis and a 2023 second round pick in Will Levis. Levis was a rookie and had some moments but not nearly enough of them. Vrabel won't be out if a job for long. This could impact what happens in New England. We'll just have to wait and see on that one.

I wouldn't mind him at Ohio State.......

I think that a less Belichickian approach to offense would have taken them a long way, but QB definitely held them back. They have a ground & pound offense in a gunslinger world.

Looks like Jags let go of their DC. I suppose some head had to roll with the finish they had. Just interesting that it's on that side of the ball...

While I certainly agree that was their offense I'm not sure there was any other realistic option when you had Tannehill as your QB. When all the FO gives you is Tannehill and two raw rookie draft picks and you have Derrick Henry I can't see how Vrabel could have done things much differently.