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https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/lakewood-church-shooter-18662859.php

So, the Lakewood Church shooter is a trans woman with Free Palestine written on the gun. SHAME.


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/lakewood-church-shooter-18662859.php

So, the Lakewood Church shooter is a trans woman with Free Palestine written on the gun. SHAME.

Not true. She had a sticker on the rifle “Palestine” She was also on the local law authorities radar, mental issues. Ex’s husbands, family is Jewish. And she still managed to get an AR. Pffft.


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And probably a Republican.


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She's obviously a libtard. No GOPer is pro palestine


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
No GOPer is pro palestine

Republicans went from sympathizing with Israelis 51 percent to 3 percent to sympathizing with them 55 percent to 4 percent.

https://abcnews.go.com/538/americans-war-israel/story?id=104150059

It seems your one size fits all doesn't apply here.


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
She's obviously a libtard. No GOPer is pro palestine
Maybe….

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...s-nikki-haley-israel-palestinians-hamas/

A CNN survey released on Sunday found 96 percent of American voters said they sympathize with Israeli people amid the conflict, while 87 percent said the same about Palestinians. Among Republicans, 98 percent said they had sympathy for the Israelis, and 77 percent said the same for Palestinians. But this for another thread.


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She believes that every Republican HAS TO THINK just like she does. It's the trumpian way. No room for anyone to believe or think any other way in her mind. That's simply unimaginable.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by EveDawg
No GOPer is pro palestine

Republicans went from sympathizing with Israelis 51 percent to 3 percent to sympathizing with them 55 percent to 4 percent.

https://abcnews.go.com/538/americans-war-israel/story?id=104150059

It seems your one size fits all doesn't apply here.


Please grow a brain. Or, at least, rub your 2 brain cells harder.

They arent sympathzing does not make them pro hamas.

This anti semetic she male shooter is obviously of your ilk. SHAME


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Where is their any confirmation she is "pro Hamas"? the only thing in the source you posted is that "Free Palestine" was on the gun. There is nothing there about Hamas. Your source actually states they do not know and are still looking for the motives to the shooting. Speaking of rubbing your two brain cells together. Speaking of your ilk, you'll invent anything true or not to claim something that has no basis in fact.

Where in your source does it say ANYTHING about this person being "pro Hamas"? Good luck with that.


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Pro Hamas, Pro Palestine...potayto potahto. Obviously she was pro violence and willing to kill people for her cause. Thats what your kind does, become martyrs.


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Maybe. The authorities haven’t identified the shooter as trans.


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Maybe. The authorities haven’t identified the shooter as trans.

Yes, they have.


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
Pro Hamas, Pro Palestine...potayto potahto. Obviously she was pro violence and willing to kill people for her cause. Thats what your kind does, become martyrs.


LOL Pitt the jihadist … that one cracked me up.


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
Pro Hamas, Pro Palestine...potayto potahto. Obviously she was pro violence and willing to kill people for her cause. Thats what your kind does, become martyrs.

So then why are you not counting those 77% of Republicans that have sympathy for Palestinians? You're another one of those crazy people that can't comprehend the difference between Palestinian civilians and Hamas.

My kind stands up for innocent civilians no matter where they are. Your kind is the kind that picks and chooses.


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Gotta a link? Because I just watched the police press conf. And I can’t remember the exact words in the effect they are identifying the shooter as female/her nobody mentioned trans.


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Gotta a link? Because I just watched the police press conf. And I can’t remember the exact words in the effect they are identifying the shooter as female/her nobody mentioned trans.




https://www.foxnews.com/us/lakewood...d-transgender-woman-long-criminal-record


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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Pro Hamas, Pro Palestine...potayto potahto. Obviously she was pro violence and willing to kill people for her cause. Thats what your kind does, become martyrs.

So then why are you not counting those 77% of Republicans that have sympathy for Palestinians? You're another one of those crazy people that can't comprehend the difference between Palestinian civilians and Hamas.

My kind stands up for innocent civilians no matter where they are. Your kind is the kind that picks and chooses.

Bring some receipts on that statement.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by EveDawg
Pro Hamas, Pro Palestine...potayto potahto. Obviously she was pro violence and willing to kill people for her cause. Thats what your kind does, become martyrs.

So then why are you not counting those 77% of Republicans that have sympathy for Palestinians? You're another one of those crazy people that can't comprehend the difference between Palestinian civilians and Hamas.

My kind stands up for innocent civilians no matter where they are. Your kind is the kind that picks and chooses.


Hamas is antisemetic and murders people.
This she male is antisemetic and tried to murder people.

Is the crayon bright enough for you. Or do I need to get the rainbow markers.


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Perfect already provided the receipt but I understand you don't really pay attention to things yo don't want to hear so here it is yet again.....

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...s-nikki-haley-israel-palestinians-hamas/

A CNN survey released on Sunday found 96 percent of American voters said they sympathize with Israeli people amid the conflict, while 87 percent said the same about Palestinians. Among Republicans, 98 percent said they had sympathy for the Israelis, and 77 percent said the same for Palestinians.


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That doesnt mean anything. That she male is clearly not a GOPer. To try to insinuate otherwise is moronic at best.


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And you better hurry up and take your L because I have things to do.


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You're the one who claimed she supported Hamas with zero evidence and now you think someone else should take the L? rofl

Hopefully looking for evidence to back up your BS is on your list of things to do.


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If you obtusely dont want to believe she was pro hamas, its actually worse for you because now we can call pro palestinians murderers. Are you happy that your ilk tries to murder innocent churchgoers?


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https://www.timesofisrael.com/glory...uilding-at-george-washington-university/

Pro palestinians murder innocents and support the murder of innocents.


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rofl

So where is your evidence this person is pro Hamas again?


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Its called common sense and I already posted it for you.


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
https://www.timesofisrael.com/glory...uilding-at-george-washington-university/

Pro palestinians murder innocents and support the murder of innocents.

But keep ignoring the truth.


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So only what your version of "common sense" is yet still no evidence to back up your claim. Just as I suspected. The old stand by every con man uses, "You can trust me."


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And BTW- the "truth" as you cal it is that the supporters of Israel condone that Israel kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians in revenge. But I'm sure you wish to ignore that.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And BTW- the "truth" as you cal it is that the supporters of Israel condone that Israel kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians in revenge. But I'm sure you wish to ignore that.

Tsk tsk Changing the subject wont work.


The fact is, Pro Palestinians murder innocents, support the murder of innocents and call for the genocide of Jews. Those are the people you align yourself with. SHAME.


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The shame is those who point the finger at those who do the exact same thing they do. That's not changing the subject. That's showing the hypocritical nature of the accuser. You support the slaughter of innocent Palestinians. I support an end to innocent civilians on either side be slaughtered. What happened in Israel when Hamas slaughtered all of those innocent Israeli citizens was an atrocity. No less of an atrocity than Israel slaughtering these innocent Palestinian citizens.


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Aw. I see you needed Kleenex for your right wing tears. I've allowed you to dig your rabbit hole deep enough now.

Suspected Lakewood Church shooter Genesse Moreno had criminal history, mental health issues, documents say

The suspect also had a contentious divorce.

The past of Genesse Ivonne Moreno, the suspected Lakewood Church shooter, includes a turbulent marriage, a contentious divorce, allegations of child and spousal abuse, a checkered criminal record and a well-documented history of mental health issues, according to an ABC News review of documents and records.

Moreno is accused of entering the Houston megachurch with her 7-year-old son before opening fire as hundreds of people were taking their pews before a Sunday afternoon service, according to police.

Moreno, 36, has used "multiple aliases," including "Jeffrey Escalante," Christopher Hassig, heading the investigation for the Houston Police Department, told reporters Monday. Although it appears she has gone by "both male and female names" in the past, investigators' interviews and documents connected to her life so far show Moreno "has been identified this entire time as female," Hassig said.

A turbulent marriage flecked by abuse, mental health issues

Moreno was previously married to a man named Enrique Carranza III. It ended in a contentious divorce and bitter custody battle; their divorce was finalized in 2022.

Carranza, in court papers, described a turbulent relationship and separation from a severely "abusive" relationship on Moreno's part. In an affidavit he filed in 2020 related to divorce and custody proceedings, he described Moreno's mental health issues and violence towards him and their son (in a later filing, Moreno herself pushed back, saying it was her husband who had "physically assaulted" her.)

They first met in 2015 while working at the Spaghetti Warehouse in downtown Houston, according to Carranza's affidavit – a "family-friendly American-Italian restaurant," according to the restaurant's website.

"As soon as we married, my wife became abusive," Carranza said in his affidavit, adding she was "a diagnosed schizophrenic, so daily it was a new battle or fight in her realm" and that he let her put him "through hell to appease her delusional thought pattern."

Carranza described being physically battered by his wife, whom he referred to as "Jeffrey." He said she would "hit me with keys" and "cans of beans." He said she "ripped a layer of my eye out once" because of impatience with the "interview process" for his job prospect and that she "also stalked me, getting me fired from jobs."

During a three-week Christmastime visit in 2019 with his estranged wife and their son, Carranza said Moreno "called the cops on me twice and both times she had a gun and my son in her hand," according to his affidavit.

"She is a diagnosed schizophrenic and [Child Protective Services] has told her that she cannot have a gun," he said. "I am afraid of her having my address. She has guns and she brags about it while having my son in the car."

"I strongly believe because of my wife's schizophrenia, she does not have the capacity to discern reality from fiction," Carranza's affidavit said, adding "she is irrational and unstable" and "grabs the baby by his arm to pull him where she is to where his shoulder is out of socket."


He described Moreno as wilfully negligent towards their son: refusing to take him to the doctor and confining him to "one area." He also said she "abuses her meds" and lets their son "stay up all times of the night."

An affidavit from their child's paternal grandmother, Walli Carranza, submitted during the couple's separation fight echoes concerns over "complaints of child abuse and neglect, as well as reckless endangerment."

In January 2020, Moreno "pulled an unlocked and loaded gun from underneath a seat in the car and pointed it at the head" of Carranza, "only hours after a first unlocked and loaded handgun was found" by their then-3-year-old son "in his own diaper bag," according to the ex-mother-in-law's affidavit.

When Carranza attempted to unlock his son from the car seat and remove him from the situation "as planned" with local authorities, Moreno "drove off" with the back door still "open" and their son not in his car seat, the affidavit said. Moreno "was stopped by Texas State Patrol after eluding them on back roads and then refusing to heed lights and sirens. Thus she had placed Samuel in imminent danger."

The mother-in-law's affidavit also suggests that Moreno should not have been able to own a gun, claiming that under an alias, Moreno had been under involuntary psychiatric commitment at least four times. She also claimed Moreno "filed a fraudulent birth certificate" for the child and "refused" to correct it and told hospital staff that the father [Carranza] was "dead" and, alternatively, that he was "homeless" and unknown.

Her son "has been reticent to file the criminal charges against his wife; now his former wife because, as she is not a US citizen," the mother-in-law's affidavit said, and "as she already has had criminal convictions, she would likely be deported if convicted of the 3rd degree felony that stems from filing a fraudulent birth certificate. He told [Houston Police] detectives this is not what he wants for the woman he loved and married and the mother of his child. He wants her to live, he told police, where she can get quality mental healthcare. He doesn’t hate her; he hates her mental illness and her refusal to treat it."

The mother-in-law's affidavit elaborates on the abuse allegedly inflicted by Moreno on her infant son.
The child "was drug exposed by his mother’s intentional use of illegal substances and legal" and "illegal substances were found in [the son's] blood and urine at birth. His mother refused to allow a toxicology screen on her own blood and urine before birth; further jeopardizing her son." The affidavit goes on to say Moreno kept her son "in diapers," even at four years old, saying "'its too messy to have to toilet train him. This is easier,'" dresses him only "in baby clothes" and "she dresses him in [girls'] clothes." The affidavit also alleges that in December 2019, on a Christmas visit, Carranza caught Moreno putting "what appeared to be adult cold medicine" into their son's feeding tube, saying, "'this is the only way I can get him to sleep.'"

A day after Sunday's shooting at Lakewood Church in Houston, Moreno's former mother-in-law posted a lengthy statement on Facebook asking "that this be a wake-up call."

"[M]y daughter-in-law when she was taking medication for schizophrenia was a very sweet and loving woman," Walli Carranza wrote in the Facebook post on Monday. "But mental illness is real illness and when family members seek emergency protections they're not doing so for their own sake but for the sake of the person who is ill..... And to protect her child and society."

In a Dec. 2021 affidavit filed by Moreno under the name "Jeffrey Moreno-Carranza," she told a different story, alleging that she has "personal knowledge" that her estranged husband was "a convicted sex offender" and had "multiple" DWI charges she also alleged that during the marriage "he physically assaulted me on numerous occasions that made me fear for my safety and the safety of my son." Carranza was found guilty by a Florida jury of Failure to Comply with Sex Offender Requirements in March 2023, after having been previously convicted of Attempted Sexual Assault on a Child in Colorado, according to the State Attorney for Florida's Fourth Judicial Circuit and Texas DPS records.

"I have always been the primary caregiver for my son," Moreno said in her 2021 affidavit, and that her husband "has never cared" for him "by himself and furthermore, he is not capable of caring for a child with special needs."

Suspected shooter's criminal history

Moreno was put under an emergency detention order in 2016 by Houston police officers and is believed to have a "mental health history that is documented, through us and through interviews with family members," Hassig said at Monday's briefing.

Moreno had a string of arrests in Texas over the last two decades.

According to ABC affiliate KTRK, Moreno's criminal history dates back to 2005, with the latest case coming during the summer of 2022.

Among her charges are an Aug. 2009 assault, for which she was sentenced to 180 days in Harris County Jail for kicking a detention officer; a May 2010 charge for forgery, for which she was sentenced to two days in Harris County Jail for trying to use a counterfeit $100 bill; a Nov. 2010 charge for theft, for which she was sentenced to 30 days in Harris County Jail for stealing hats and makeup; a Dec. 2010 charge for evading arrest, for which she was sentenced to 75 days in Harris County Jail; and a June 2022 charge for unlawful carrying of a weapon, which is still an active case.

The hunt for a motive

Authorities are now poring over all possible evidence to understand Moreno's motive and intent – from raiding a Montgomery County home under her name and a "dark in color sedan" that is registered to her and parked at the home to forensic analyses of her digital devices, and data and images stored on them, according to a police search warrant affidavit.

The warrant includes approval for police to search for any "ammunition, firearms, explosives, materials used to make explosives, cell phones, computers, and any evidence tending to connect Moreno with the commission of the offense of aggravated assault, possession of prohibited weapons, and/or hoax bomb" that might be found.

Authorities are also investigating a YouTube page called "Genesse Moreno Investor," according to a source briefed on the probe. That page portrays Moreno as involved in real estate investments, posting one video with the description, "We Buy Commercial Residential Multifamily Properties."

Police said Monday the investigation is still "very new" and ongoing, and they're urgently pushing to understand why this person chose to open fire at the megachurch Sunday. That process will "take time," officials said.

"We're in the infancy stages of this. I completely understand. We want to know the motive. How she got the weapon. Why she did this. We're not there yet," Doug Williams, Special Agent in Charge for the FBI's Houston field office, said.

But even in these first 24 hours, authorities have already recovered some "anti-Semitic writings" which they believe might have contributed to Moreno's actions, noting the contentious relationship with her ex-husband and his family.

"We do believe that there was a familial dispute that has taken place between her ex-husband and her ex-husband's family," HPD's Hassig said. "And some of those individuals are of, are Jewish. So we believe that that … might possibly be where all of this stems from."

"There was a sticker on the buttstock of the rifle" that Moreno used at Lakewood, Hassig said. That sticker "simply stated 'Palestine.'"

Moreno's ex-mother-in-law, Walli Carranza, who identifies herself as a rabbi, wrote in a Facebook post on Monday that despite Morreno's apparent antisemitic utterances, "this has nothing to do with Judaism or Islam." Carranza pointed, instead, to Moreno's untreated mental illness and a lack of "strong red flag laws that would have prevented her from having a gun."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspected...history-mental-health/story?id=107179259

Shooter at Joel Osteen church bought weapon legally despite history of mental illness

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/13/texas-lakewood-church-shooter-weapon-legal-purchase

What we have here is a clear case of not keeping guns out of the hands of those who are mentally ill.... again. This time it was obvious and clear. The same issue we continue to see in mass shootings across this country. And it seems a certain group of people fight like hell against any reasonable gun control laws to help prevent situations like this from happening.

And instead of discussing the actual issue you try and turn it into a political talking point while ignoring the actual issue. What is it you say? SHAME.


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If she’s not a practicing GOPer, she sure has the DNA of one. Crazy as a loon it sounds like.

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She got arrested like 6 times. How'd she pass the background test?


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I have no idea. I know that universal background checks would help but have no idea if it would have played a part in this situation. In most cases if it's not a felony conviction it doesn't prevent you from buying a firearm. How many times you've been arrested doesn't matter.

I'm pretty sure that in Texas unless you've been convicted of domestic violence are have been proven to be chemically dependent, no misdemeanor conviction prevents you from legally purchasing a firearm.

From the mental health aspect it must have been adjudicated that you are mentally ill in order to prohibit you from buying a firearm. So unless a court of law has found you to be mentally ill you can purchase a firearm.


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ok, let's stop saying she's a GOPer or Liberal... she was a mentally ill woman that somehow was able to get her hand on guns... that is a tragedy...

early reports said she was transgender, but that has been proven false... she did have Palestine on her gun and apparently may have some resentment towards jews as her ex's family was jewish...

this was a mentally ill woman who should have never been able to purchase a gun... I want to know where the break down was where she was able to get a gun in her hands...

I do want to point out and commend the off duty officer who was able to neutralize the suspect and keep casualties to a minimum... I also feel extremely sorry for the suspects child who needlessly got injured and will likely die due to her mom's poor choices/mental illness.

all this 'she was a GOPer' or "she was a liberal" is unneeded... this wasn't political... this was a sick, mentally ill individual... I want answers on how she was able to get ahold of a gun....


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all this 'she was a GOPer' or "she was a liberal" is unneeded... this wasn't political... this was a sick, mentally ill individual... I want answers on how she was able to get ahold of a gun....


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