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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Once again you have no leg to stand on here. Your boy shot down the bill that could have saved US.

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Lol yeah that’s all you have…pffft GOPers.


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Does the bill come with a time machine??

Soooo predictably dense. This place really needs a seperate place for the kiddies.


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No kidding….they call fake news when the can’t believe the reality of it all.


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Did your dog write that?


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Once again you have no leg to stand on here. Your boy shot down the bill that could have saved US. Then he sent them on a two week vacation while thousands are being killed in the Ukraine .

None of that matters. The FACT that the right wing GOP'ers blocked a comprehensive border deal doesn't matter to him. the FACT that it was trump who gave an open border policy to Venezuelans makes no difference to him. He's unwilling to take any responsibility for those actions. He has BDS. Biden Derangement Syndrome.


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Soooo predictably dense. This place really needs a seperate place for the kiddies.

We'll ask PPE to create one for you, Eve, Peen and your little group.


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Once again you have no leg to stand on here. Your boy shot down the bill that could have saved US. Then he sent them on a two week vacation while thousands are being killed in the Ukraine .

None of that matters. The FACT that the right wing GOP'ers blocked a comprehensive border deal doesn't matter to him. the FACT that it was trump who gave an open border policy to Venezuelans makes no difference to him. He's unwilling to take any responsibility for those actions. He has BDS. Biden Derangement Syndrome.

Once again, Trump has nothing to do with this.


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But he signed an open border policy for Venezuelans. Still no accountability I see.


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But he signed an open border policy for Venezuelans. Still no accountability I see.

Yeah, please explain...



Memorandum on Deferred Enforced Departure for Certain Venezuelans
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE
THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY

SUBJECT: Deferred Enforced Departure for Certain Venezuelans

The autocratic government of Nicolas Maduro has consistently violated the sovereign freedoms possessed by the Venezuelan people. Through force and fraud, the Maduro regime is responsible for the worst humanitarian crisis in the Western Hemisphere in recent memory. A catastrophic economic crisis and shortages of basic goods and medicine have forced about five million Venezuelans to flee the country, often under dangerous conditions.

This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country. The deteriorative condition within Venezuela, which presents an ongoing national security threat to the safety and well-being of the American people, warrants the deferral of the removal of Venezuelan nationals who are present in the United States.

Pursuant to my constitutional authority to conduct the foreign relations of the United States, I have determined that it is in the foreign policy interest of the United States to defer the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela, subject to the conditions and exceptions provided below.

Accordingly, I hereby direct you to take appropriate measures to defer for 18 months the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela, who is present in the United States as of January 20, 2021, except for aliens who:

(1) have voluntarily returned to Venezuela or their country of last habitual residence outside the United States;

(2) have not continuously resided in the United States since January 20, 2021;

(3) are inadmissible under section 212(a)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(3)) or removable under section 237(a)(4) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1227(a)(4));

(4) who have been convicted of any felony or 2 or more misdemeanors committed in the United States, or who meet the criteria set forth in section 208(b)(2)(A) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1158(b)(2)(A));

(5) who were deported, excluded, or removed, prior to January 20, 2021;

(6) who are subject to extradition;

(7) whose presence in the United States the Secretary of Homeland Security has determined is not in the interest of the United States or presents a danger to public safety; or

(8) whose presence in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.

I further direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to take appropriate measures to authorize employment for aliens whose removal has been deferred, as provided by this memorandum, for the duration of such deferral.

The Secretary of Homeland Security is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

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He did everything but hand them a green card and you need that explained to you?


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Accordingly, I hereby direct you to take appropriate measures to defer for 18 months the removal of any national of Venezuela, or alien without nationality who last habitually resided in Venezuela, who is present in the United States as of January 20, 2021

Now paint a picture of how this illegal alien murderer time traveled, so we can all understand.

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Still in denial I see. Trump hands out amnesty to Venezuelans. No outrage because Biden didn't do it.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Still in denial I see. Trump hands out amnesty to Venezuelans. No outrage because Biden didn't do it.

He did no such thing, fake news and lies... that you keep spewing long after you've learned they're lies.
Biden changed it from a DED to a TPS... that's how you hand out amnesty and green cards. #notthatfactsmatter

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The move to use DED instead of TPS stems from a long-standing concern from some Republicans that TPS will eventually become a path to permanent residency in the United States. Deferred Enforced Departure is designated by the president and gives the chief executive the ability to end it without as many procedural hurdles.

He has also presided over this:

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And then Mayorkas extended the TPS, even with all this [censored] going on... he extended it just five months ago...

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Nope. That's not how this works. You either believe lies or have no problem spreading them.

Trump granted Deferred Enforced Departure instead of Temporary Legal Status because it can be stopped at anytime without interference.

Then, upon taking office, Biden changed it:
Biden offers temporary legal status to 300,000 Venezuelan immigrants living in U.S.


Secretary Mayorkas Announces Extension and Redesignation of Venezuela for Temporary Protected Status


Nice try. But only gullible, liars or brain-dead would blame Trump for this one. thumbsup



^ Remember this post? It was my first post on the subject, with all the facts to end your argument after your b.s. fake news post full of lies. Yet you've been arguing for two pages since.

I know the facts don't matter to you, but you've made a complete fool of yourself in this thread. Keep going though. We want to know more about the time traveling illegal that Trump sent here to kill a college student. notallthere


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I'm not sure how you think any of those things changes the fact that trump granted amnesty to Venezuelans.


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He also ate oranges in Florida. Neither factoid has anything to do with the illegal alien that killed the UGA student. I'm not sure how you think it does.

Do you really want to continue down this road? Maybe pick a different avenue to Biden's Immigration Crisis, this one has reached a dead end... and it's next to a sign that says "Bridge Out".


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Giving amnesty to Venezuelans is a trump issue, not a Biden issue. You need to read the sign post ahead..... The Twilight Zone..

"Imagine if you will that we live in a world where one man can't see or even admit that both political parties are responsible for the immigration problem. That the very side he refuses to assign any blame to just obstructed a comprehensive immigration bill to help solve the problem. That the man he claims had "the problem under control" when millions crossed the border under his watch and that granted amnesty to Venezuelans is the savior on immigration. You wouldn't believe it if you don't see it with your own eyes. So keep tuning into.....The Twilight Zone."


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More fake news from the resident propaganda artist.

You've been proven wrong with fact after fact, yet you continue to spew the same false rhetoric. It's trash like this that created the term "libtard" and you seemingly wear it with pride.

"Trump, Trump, Trump!!"... but the other side has a problem.


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In news that matters... that's not brain-dead-libtard rhetoric...

ICE arrests 275 noncitizens with sex offense convictions during nation-wide law enforcement effort

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WASHINGTON – U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) officers apprehended 275 unlawfully present noncitizen sex offenders during a nation-wide law enforcement effort that ran from February 5-16, 2024.


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And it's why people such as yourself have earned the moniker "repugnantcan". No sense of objectivity whatsoever.


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Yes! That's it. I'm not being objective!


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If you were objective you would openly admit that it's taken over 40 years and total inaction by both parties to reform our immigration policies that's gotten us to where we are now. You would be openly willing to admit that the far right in the House just obstructed a comprehensive immigration bill. But you're not willing to do that. So no, you're not being objective.


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Ahhh... back to that song and dance.

Sleepy Joe let 8 million cross with a red carpet #notthatfactsmatter

And you sit here for two days spreading misinformation about Trump. Information you know has nothing to do with the story at hand. #Pitiful


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In other news that matters; not just lies, disinformation, and Viagra induced TDS:

ICE arrests 171 noncitizens pending charges for murder, homicide or assault against children

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ICE arrests 171 noncitizens with pending charges or convictions for murder, homicide or assault against children during nation-wide law enforcement effort
WASHINGTON — U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) officers apprehended 171 unlawfully present noncitizens with pending charges or convictions for murder, homicide or assault against children during a nation-wide law enforcement effort that ran from January 16-28, 2024.

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You must mean five million more than rump because trump let over 3 million cross with a red carpet. #notthatfactsmatter

Reagan gave amnesty to over 2 million immigrants and trump basically did the same with immigrants from Venezuela. Once again #notthatfactsmatter

But you have no idea what objectivity means.

Why would you of all people talk about someone of the same old song and dance when you have been repeating the same thing moth after month when we both now that a president is not a king and nothing will ever be resolved until our immigration laws are reformed? Facts are not your friend.


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Here's Trump's "Red Carpet" if you predate StateTV search results to him leaving the White House...



Remarks by President Trump on the Illegal Immigration Crisis ...

National Archives | (.gov)
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov › remarks-preside...
Nov 1, 2018 — And good afternoon. I would like to provide an update to the American people regarding the crisis on our southern border — and crisis it is. Illegal immigration ...


Trump's Anti-Immigrant Rhetoric Was Never About Legality

Time Magazine
https://time.com › Ideas › Immigration
Aug 6, 2019 — But the election of Donald Trump, his racist and harmful lies about immigrants, the policies enacted by his Administration and the violence he has incited ...

Trump's anti-immigrant 'invasion' rhetoric was echoed by ...

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › think › opinion › trump-s-...
Aug 5, 2019 — The president's words — and those of his supporters — have contributed to a societal fear of immigrants, especially Hispanic immigrants. Image: Donald Trump.

The Impact of Trump's Immigration Agenda

Fwd.us
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Sep 29, 2020 — President Trump has done everything in his power to subject more than one million DACA recipients and TPS holders to deportation, including hundreds of ...

Trump used words like invasion, killer to discuss ...

USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com › news › elections › 2019/08/08
Aug 8, 2019 — Trump often uses words like 'invasion' and 'alien' to describe immigrants. After shootings in El Paso and Dayton, he's facing criticism for his words.
Videos

Trump’s Immigration Rhetoric Echoes a Bitter Fight from the 90s
Retro Report · Anne Checler
Oct 28, 2019


AP fact check: President Trump's rhetoric and the truth ...

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Nov 2, 2018 — WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is spreading misleading rhetoric about the nature of Central American migrants heading to the U.S. border and grossly ...

Donald Trump's latest dog whistle on immigration is more ...

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › donald-trump-daca-stolen
Apr 2, 2018 — President Donald Trump won the White House in 2016 due, in large part, to his willingness to play on deep-seated fear of the other.

Trump's anti-immigration playbook was written 100 years ...

The Boston Globe
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Jan 31, 2017 — Boston College Law School professor Daniel Kanstroom, a specialist in immigration law who wrote a book called Deportation Nation, likes to show our less ...

Trump's most insulting — and violent — language is often ...

Washington Post
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Oct 2, 2019 — The press has gone Crazy. Fake News!!" The Washington Post's Josh Dawsey, however, confirmed that Trump wanted migrants attempting to illegally cross the border ...

Trump's First Year on Immigration Policy: Rhetoric vs. Reality

migrationpolicy.org
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Jan 18, 2018 — In an August 2016 campaign speech in Arizona, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump laid out in ten detailed points the immigration policy he ...

Trump on immigration: No amnesty, no pivot

CNN
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Aug 31, 2016 — That idea that Donald Trump is softening his immigration policy: Not going to happen. The Republican presidential nominee on Wednesday re-upped the harsh ...

Trump's Argument Against Immigrants: We've Heard It Before

The New York Times
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Oct 9, 2017 — President Trump wants to sharply limit immigrants and refugees. His efforts, and the resulting backlash, echo the debate over a 1994 California referendum.

A Theory of Trump's Immigration Rhetoric

Joshua Foust
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Jul 31, 2019 — While immigration has been a topic of debate in this country for many decades, the 2015 announcement of Donald Trump's candidacy for the President, which ...

Trump on immigrants: 'These aren't people. ...

USA Today
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May 16, 2018 — WASHINGTON — President Trump used extraordinarily harsh rhetoric to renew his call for stronger immigration laws Wednesday, calling undocumented immigrants ...

President Trump's Bold Immigration Plan for the 21st Century

National Archives | (.gov)
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May 21, 2019 — Trump addressed Americans from the White House Rose Garden on Thursday, he unveiled an immigration plan that will turn America's broken immigration system from ...

Trump's Racist Language Serves Abusive Immigration ...

Human Rights Watch
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May 22, 2018 — Presidential words matter – especially in a White House statement. So US President Donald Trump's description of immigrants (he later specified that he ...

Survey: Trump's immigration rhetoric is negatively ...

NBC News
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Nov 4, 2019 — The White House's anti-immigrant remarks are taking a toll on Latinos in the U.S., whether they be citizens or undocumented immigrants, a new study ...

Yes, Trump's hard-line immigration stance helped him win ...

Los Angeles Times
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Apr 17, 2017 — Ever since he announced his presidential campaign in July 2015, Donald Trump has made opposition to immigration central to his political strategy — and ...

Trump Continues Rhetoric On Immigration Ahead Of Election

NPR
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Oct 31, 2018 — President Trump held a campaign rally in Florida on Wednesday — the first of 11 he is planning in the next six days. His immigration message may help GOP ...

Democrats furious over Trump's immigration rhetoric

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Jan 31, 2018 — Democrats were infuriated by President Donald Trump's first State of the Union speech, claiming the president put an immigration deal even further out of ...

Research: Immigration under Trump: A Review of Pol..

migrationpolicy.org
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Dec 20, 2017 — RESEARCH: On the campaign trail, Donald Trump made immigration the centerpiece of his campaign, offering a more detailed policy agenda than on any other ...

Deconstructing Donald Trump's immigration rhetoric

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Feb 11, 2019 — President Trump is not the first president to talk about border security, illegal crossing, and immigration reform in a State of the Union speech. In fact, ...

Trump's language about Mexican immigrants under scrutiny in ...

ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos
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Aug 4, 2019 — The suspect in the El Paso shooting said he wanted to shoot Mexicans. Now, President Donald Trump's language about migrants is being looked at.

Transcript of Donald Trump's Immigration Speech

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https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Sep 1, 2016 — Following is a transcript of the remarks by Donald J. Trump on immigration in Phoenix on Wednesday, as transcribed by the Federal News Service.

Hispanics see shift in Trump's immigration rhetoric

PBS
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Jul 31, 2016 — On immigration, Donald Trump is signaling that he is ready to tone down his fiery rhetoric — at least behind closed doors.

Where Does Trump's 'Invasion' Rhetoric Come From?

The Atlantic
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Aug 6, 2019 — If you want to know the roots of the “immigration invasion” rhetoric that President Donald Trump has championed time and again—and which was echoed in the ...

How Americans Feel About Immigration and Muslims in a ...

KFF
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Sep 30, 2016 — In this Wall Street Journal Think Tank column, Drew Altman uses findings from a new KFF/CNN survey of working-class white Americans and from Pew Research to ...

The Unlawful Ambitions of Donald Trump's Immigration ...

The New Yorker
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Apr 17, 2019 — Jonathan Blitzer reports on the Trump Administration's harsh immigration policies, and how Francis Cissna, the director of Citizenship and Immigration ...

Trump's Racist Rhetoric Takes America Back Again

NPR
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Jul 16, 2019 — By repeating that these immigrants are "not ... you," the president defined them as "the other" in stark terms. The battle lines could not be more clear in ...

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's misleading rhetoric on immigrants

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Apr 29, 2019 — WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is spreading misleading rhetoric about illegal immigration.


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Ronald Reagan's tenure as the 40th president of the United States began with his first inauguration on January 20, 1981, and ended on January 20, 1989.
(For those not good at math, that era began over 40 years ago)

Sleepy Joe tenure: NOW

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Yeah, all of your links doesn't change the fact that 3 million came here while trump was president. But keep flailing your arms. And the House GOP just refused to pass a comprehensive immigration bill NOW!

Because trump sent them their marching orders.


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Aw. When one refuses to address the facts there's always a mindless meme to cover that up. #weakazzmeme


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Facts lol? Ah, you mean the comprehensive border turnstile (this is where we pivot without Pit admitting he was dead wrong and spewed lies for two days).


Let's just do it this way:


If the "bipartisan border deal" were a plumbing problem...

Plumber: Yeah, you've got leaks everywhere, but I have a comprehensive plan.

Resident: Great! What do we do??

Plumber: We place buckets everywhere, catch all the water and wait for it to evaporate back into the atmosphere.

Resident: But what about the leaks? How do we fix the leaks??

Plumber: Well, I wouldn't worry about that right now. Let's concentrate on catching the water in a humane manner and let those other problems take care of themselves. But don't worry, I've set a limit on catching five buckets per day. After that, I'll just shut off your water supply. Easy-peasy.


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Your analogy is wrong on so many levels. That's why only the far right objected to it. Lankford explained it clearly and you know you're misrepresenting it. Common sense Republicans approved of the bill. That's why it's hard to take extremists like yourself seriously.


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There is no such thing as an illegal human being.


Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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I'll try again. This time without all the "extremism" lol.


If the "bipartisan border deal" were a forest fire...

Firefighter: Hey chief! I'm gonna start a direct attack from the south while the wind is favorable!

Chief: I've got a better idea.

Firefighter: What's that, chief?

Chief: Let's start some more fires across the way.

Firefighter: Due respect, chief, but why would we do that??

Chief: People are used to big fires anyway, the smaller fires will take their focus off the existing ones because they're new and more colorful.

Firefighter: I don't see how that helps the situation?

Chief: Ah, but that just your shortsightedness. Once all this burns down, we can plant new trees -- that's green, bro. Also, have some of the guys start digging a tunnel around the perimeter.

Firefighter: A tunnel?? What is that for??

Chief: We're gonna hire a bunch of people who don't know what they're doing to install a sprinkler system so we're ready for future fires. If we make them government jobs, work should be completed by 2045.


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You're still trying to use stupidity to rationalize extremism.





Facts matter. But you do seem highly qualified to work for FOX News.


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Let me know when the facts don't include a turnstile... and an approach that does more than arriving at an inferno with a squirt gun. I know I'm waiting at least 10 months for that though. thumbsup



Here are some other facts (except these ones are real, and not just opinions and unfounded predictions), just so we can wrap up your two day bender of TDS and close the book on your lies.







According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Ibarra and his wife entered the United States near El Paso, Texas in September 2022. After being arrested and released, his wife told the New York Post they were put on a bus and sent to New York.

Last year he was arrested in NYC for child endangerment. "At that point Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) could have taken Ibarra into custody, but according to a written ICE statement, “he was released by the NYPD before a detainer could be issued.”

He moved to the Athens, Georgia area where his brother was residing. A short time later, after Ibarra’s brother Diego had been arrested and released on a DUI charge, the two of them were busted stealing from a Wal-Mart. They were given a citation for misdemeanor shoplifting and let go.

The Clarke County Sheriff’s Office sent its policy on its communication with ICE. It indicated that “prisoners identified as undocumented aliens should not be detained solely on the basis of being an undocumented alien” but that otherwise, ICE would be notified, and it would be up to ICE to determine whether to request custody.

It's unclear if that communication occurred.

The sheriff’s office has yet to respond to a request for clarification, but the Department of Justice says it was unaware of Diego Ibarra’s prior arrest history until last week.

https://www.11alive.com/article/new.../85-0294133e-f5e1-4e2f-a2df-ab017b498508




Last Thursday morning, he murdered (allegedly) Laken Riley when she was out for her morning jog.

Riley was a nursing student at Augusta University's Athens campus, after starting her college career at the much larger Athens campus of the University of Georgia. She was found dead Thursday after a roommate reported she didn't return from a morning run in a wooded area of the University of Georgia campus near its intramural fields.

Jose Ibarra, who faces multiple murder and assault charges, is also accused of dragging 22-year-old Laken Riley to a secluded area on Thursday, according to one of the affidavits obtained by CBS News. The allegation that he dragged Riley's body was filed to support the charge of concealing the death of another person.

Authorities haven't said exactly how Riley was killed, only that her death was caused by blunt force trauma. With the only specific statements being that "used an object as a weapon in the crime that caused blunt force trauma and disfigured her skull".

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgi...r-suspect-jose-ibarra-disfiguring-skull/


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He's from one of those countries trump protected people who came here from, right? Blood is on trump's hands for this one.


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Tackles are tackles.
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From what I can gather, what he said in the last 20 seconds or so said it all. I feel like it's one of the issues that has no end in sight, because both parties want it to be resolved on their watch and are hell bent on it not being resolved on the other's watch. This isn't the only issue, but it may be the biggest where that kind of dynamic is at play.


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Did you notice how Fate brought up the immigration bill until it was explained by Lankford? Then all of a sudden nothing. He was brainwashed by the right wing and now the emperor has no clothes. trump told them to fail a comprehensive immigration bill and his minions obeyed. Still they want to blame the democrats.


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