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Just a couple of thoughts. Why stop at 50 years?? shoot let’s go back 150 years then we can beat ourselves up for slavery. I think our focus should be more of what is now, don’t you. How about in this millennium??

So pit, you asked for context. Here is a little. The klan has about 3000 members, some of whom are not even members, they just hang out with the klanners and share their “ideals”. So in a country of what, maybe 330 million, 3000.

I searched neo nazi/white supremecist groups. There are a boatload. Most I could not find membership for but the ones I could, 500 was the largest I could find.

These folks views are repugnant and idiotic. Anyone who makes a judgement about a person based upon skin color or ethnicity is just not smart. Many of these people probably grew up with it and had it drilled into them from early in life.

I saw a number of campus videos with crowds estimated at about 1000. The whole uproar has included multiple thousands and the things they are calling for are abhorrent. I certainly am not suggesting that the all college students subscribe to this stuff. I saw a number of students stand up to these purveyors of Jewish hate. Good for them.

You called for context, pit, which I took to mean realizing this was a small sample of college students. But I do not think or any lefty tried to contextualize Charlottesville. You took the actions of 500 or so and tried to draw the conclusion that right wing antisemitism is a huge problem. It is not . If you add up the kkk+ all the neonazi idiots it is a splinter of a splinter, and many of those groups do not even get along with each other.

With the campus antisemitism we are seeing these are being driven by radical leftist professors and they will continue poisoning the minds of these students. That is a problem.

And I do not think I am in denial about anything.

Again, I don’t quite understand the need to bifurcate the issue between right and left?

Because one man made the left the mortal enemy of maga.

Like Charlottseville?

Like this?



I can show you many, many examples of this.



Yet you have only pointed the finger in one direction.


So they are calling for much the same thing as the KKK and white supremacists are? And of course we had a president who claimed there were "very fine people" among them. Let me give you some context. There are approximately 36,600 students at Columbia University. The most students protesting at any one time was approximately 400.


Trying to downplay hundreds of hate groups on the right is not a good look for you. It's time you man up and admit that the problem is quite bad on both sides and stop sugar coating it with a political slant that is not accurate.


Like this.......

It's the "we're bad but your worse" strategy.

Actually it is the “get those lefties into the current decade” strategy. But before I do that there is this. You being you, I doubt you will recognize the……. perhaps irony, of your remark but I am pretty certain most everyone else did. Let me quote you.
“yet you have only pointed the finger in one direction “.

This coming from a guy who has pointed his finger in the same direction for eight years. Eight years!!! And you get worked up when someone points there finger in a different direction. You lefties have spent the past eight years feeling a smug superiority. Look at the hatred and antisemitism of those right wingers. And then, and then, spilling out of the lefty closet comes the nastiest, foulest, ugliest antisemetic hatred of Jews I have seen in a long while. And it is coming from a bunch of your kindred spirits, lefty students who have been indoctrinated by those leftist professors. Nasty nasty people. Just read of a chant at GWU calling for beheading of the school president. Hmm nice people.

As for this idiotic suggestion that Trump called the white supremicists “good people” anyone not wearing lefty glasses knows what he was saying. There were actually three groups of people at Charlottesville. There was a group of mostly local folks who were there to protest the removal or destruction of their historical monuments. There was a group there, a mix of local and outsiders who were there to call for the removal of these monuments. There were good people on both sides. Then there was a third group, mostly outsiders, who were white supremicists., about 500 or so. Trump was not addressing them.

Finally I appreciate you making my point for me. Let’s review. We are currently seeing Jewish students being assaulted and prevented from going to class. I have heard dozens of them say they fear for their life. I have seen signs calling for death to Jews, death to Israel, kill the Jews, from the river to the sea. All of that is going on right now! Current events. And you bring me something eight years old. Can’t you at least find something this decade?? Better yet, all of this started with the October attack on Israel. Obviously that attack brought these leftie looney antisemetic Jew haters out. So surely that has been a perfect opportunity for the klan or neo nazis to come out “in force” . So surely you can point out some examples of Jewish people being assaulted by these right wingers. You can show them marching with kill the Jews signs, death to Israel sign. Or maybe these groups you fear so much have been neutered so much by time and the changing attitudes toward race in America that they just don’t have much of a presence.

But these leftie haters are young and college educated. They are threats to watch out for in the future.

But cheer up, pit. To slightly paraphrase the immortal words of Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca, “you’ll always have Charlottesville “.

Good post.

This comment from the other poster: "It's the "we're bad but your worse" strategy." is so priceless the irony is lost by that poster.

Your vision must be impaired. But I expected as much. I have plainly stated that Israel must wipe out Hamas. I have also said Hamas are terrorists. The monument in question was to be taken down by order of the city counsel. trump only recognized two groups. The protestors and the anti protestors. And then said there were good people on both sides. Inventing an alternative reality will not change that.

Some of these protestors are sickening. Supporting Hamas is sickening. Now how does that make me a kindred spirit again?

I understand how this started. It started by a blatant terrorist act killing over 1200 Israeli's in an unprovoked attack by Hamas. I'm not sure what that has to do with starving and denying medical supplies to innocent women and children in Gaza. I'm not sure what that has to do with using 2000 lb. bombs that destroy everything for 1000 feet in every direction which will obviously kill many innocent civilians. The only real difference between us is I hold both sides responsible for the actions they take while you hold only one side responsible.

I'm glad you think the KKK and the hundreds of white supremacist groups have simply disappeared. And just to give you a little perspective which you seem to have no sense of. As an example, there are over 36,600 students at Columbia University. The largest amount of protesters gathered at one time on that campus was 400. I'm pretty sure with over 36k of them not being there anyone with eyes can see this is a very small fraction of the student body. So maybe you shouldn't be generalizing about college educated people.

So what do you think of blocking food and medical aid to the women, children and elderly of Gaza? Does that seem okay to you? Is that something you support? Is that humane? Do you or do you not see that as being cruel to innocent people? Inquiring minds want to know what someone with strong christian values thinks of that?

I was talking about you, and blaming Trump for everything under the sun.

So let's see if I get this straight. I point out and post the very things that trump says and does and you don't like that. And then you try to compare that I have stated that I think both Biden and trump aren't good candidates to someone making the clear cut choice to cut of medical aid and food to women, children and elderly as being comparable?

And then when I ask your view on the actual topic being discussed you avoid it like the plague? Either you wish to engage in the topic or you don't. If not what the hell are you doing here?

Now they're refusing to claim their own......

GOP lawmaker claims KKK is ‘the military wing of the Democratic Party’ in closed door meeting ahead of antisemitism hearing

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/scott-perry-closed-door-comments/index.html

Ku Klux Klan newspaper declares support for Trump

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN12X2ID/

Former KKK leader endorses Trump for president again – and Tucker Carlson for VP

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...cker-carlson-election-2020-a9609491.html


It’s No Mystery Why Racists Have Fallen in Love With Trump’s Republican Party

The KKK did not choose to support Donald Trump because he was a Republican—but because they agreed with the ideas that he and other far-right politicians spout.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/racist-republicans-donald-trump/

I am doing here what I want.

You point out trump 20 times a day. Over the last however many years you've pointed out biden perhaps 6 times, and ALWAYS with the caveat of "but trump".

Period. The end.

Don't like it? Don't do it. Apply your rules to yourself, first. And? I'll treat you the way you treat me.

Aw.

As you would say....
And I would love for you to point to where I regularly post "point out trump 20 times a a day". Does just making BS up out of think air make you feel better? And I've certainly pointed to Biden more than six times. But you see when you don't support someone who is one of the nastiest human beings in politics over a man that at least has somewhat of a moral compass, you'll have that. And let me explain something else to you. Over that same period of time you have totally ignored and refused to call trump out for anything he has said and done. I guess you have no problem with "good people on both sides" or "I can grab them by the pu$$y". The list goes on and on of the obvious things you totally ignore.

I don't set the rules. I also don't come in here only to exclusively attack posters I dislike. Because that's all you've been doing since you got here today. But I've learned to expect that from you since that's all you pretty much do when you come here. No discussion, no comment on the content, just the usual. You're a funny little man.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/college-anti-israel-agitators-sent-gaza-new-house-gop-bill

This wont pass, but its hilarious.

It is hilarious. Political theater has reached an all time high.

You just did it again. But you don't see it which is either hilarious, or scary.

Well, let's look at that for a second. He embraces the groups that are anti anything but WHITE..

He Embraces the KKK and they in turn embrace him.

Trumps NAZIesk rhetoric emboldens those groups and they in tune threaten violence in his behalf..

You can, and most likely will deny this, but there are sooooo many examples that would prove you wrong.

Trump and leaders like him around the world are the cause of much unrest. They must be dealt with harshly.

Is he the cause of everything that is wrong in the world,, probably not,, but he's part of the problem.,

He tells you what he's going to do in the TIME article that came out last week. If you believe he's right, you are part of the problem. If you believe he doesn't mean it, then you are fooling yourself.

And you only come here to attack people without posting anything relevant. What a sad existence that must be. Do you have anything of substance that would actually add to the content of the thread? I didn't think so because you only come here for one purpose.

I responded to your accusations. I'm not the one who brought him up. But I'm sure you can't see that either. And as per usual you won't say anything against him no matter what he says or does. Nothing new there.

You and arch have so much in common. And no, it's not any sense of humanity. As per usual you have nothing but word vomit.

I see that starving people on purpose is a joke to you. Nothing surprising there. More hateful vomit from the disgusting.

I am not a patient person. In fact, just the opposite. Very impatient. I do not like to wait. But I have been forced to develop patience when it comes to the truth coming out. It is often very delayed especially when the truth flies in the face of the narrative the lame stream media (aka democratic national communication team) wants out there. Which is why it is now seven years later and finally the truth has come out about Donald Trump and what he said after Charlottesville.

Snopes is the lefty fact checking group which probably explains why it has taken seven years to come out with their acknowledgment. They just released that while Trump said “there were very fine people on both sides”, he specifically noted that “he was not talking about neo-nazis and white supremecists and they should be condemned totally”. Therefore Snopes rated the claim against Trump as False. Hmm. Veeerry interesting!!

This leads me to two obvious questions. First , does anyone believe that the lame stream media did not already know the that Trump did not praise the hate groups. In fact he condemned them. Of course the media knew. So when Biden used that as a campaign issue the media knew it was bogus but they said nothing. They let the dems spread false information, information the media knew to be false. It is one thing for the campaign to spread things they know to be false, it is quite another to have the media participate in the process. Is it any wonder I call them”the democratic national communication team??

That leads me to my second question. A few posts up Pit, you attributed to Trump him calling the hate groups very nice people. It is clear now that was a lie. Did you know it was a lie and you were willing to spread it or were you also misled, deceived by the lame stream media. Inquiring minds want to know.

The whole thing combined with the Biden laptop equals out to massive election interference by our media. The medi in America is a disgrace.

Lame stream media, blah, blah, blah....lefty fact checking group, blah, blah, blah

You have a negative label for anything and everything that does not support trump in your true trumpian form.

So Comer who announced they were going to continue to investigate Hillary just days before the election wasn't election interference? A woman who was never charged with a crime of any kind. Who they continued to investigate for years with nothing to charge her with? Your claim is that didn't have an impact on the election?

I find it odd how your side kept yelling "lock her up" about a woman who not only had not been convicted of a crime but was never charged with one. Yet they are endorsing a man who was just convicted on 34 felony counts and is charged with over 50 more. Where are their chants of "Lock him up"?

Let me guess, all of this is some scheme from the Biden administration to frame trump? Is that the kind of BS you believe?

Nice job avoiding everything!! Could you point any way untruth? Did you read what I wrote?? Try it and learn t will get a couple of answers. I think you will probably ignore everything else. You hate fact g reality.

So I’ll ask you directly. At his Charlottesville talk did he praise neo nazis and white supremecists. Remember now, you are under oath

You lack the ability to put anyone under oath thank God. Trump wasn't in Charlottesville when he told the Oath keepers to "Stand back and stand by."

These were at two separate locations at two separate events. He told the oath keepers to stand back and stand by during an interview with You make it sound as though he said the together. The only real question to be asked here is which time was trump telling the truth? he says one thing in one place and something different at another place. Then you try and string them together as if he didn't say two different things at two different places.

Here are the comments he actually made....


Now you wish to pretend that this isn't what he meant and because he said something different somewhere else he didn't mean what he said here. If every time trump contradicted himself we ignored what he said, he wouldn't be saying much. But people such as yourself keep falling for it and try to use the time he said what you think sounds best while ignoring what he says the other times.

Geez you are talkin a totally different situation. With all your excuse making it has become obvious. You knew Trump did not say the neo nazis and white supremecists were good people. You knew that and you lied on the post and said that he did say that. You know which time this entire conversation has been about and you know what Trump was alleged to say. And you know it was a lie and you said it anyway. Grow a pair , admit you lied and apologize. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, that you had been deceived by the lying media but you do not deserve that. So we just have to realize who and what you are. Sad.

Clearly you do not have what it takes to own up to the lie. I wonder if the Biden campaign does? Will they come out and acknowledge that their accusation was based on a lie. I can almost guarantee the lame stream media won’t hold them to account.

Come on!! Be a man!! Admit you lied when you said Trump called the hate groups “very nice people”. You’ll feel better.

He has been saying this for years on this board. Whether he knowingly knew it was a lie or he guzzled down whatever his media of choice told him to think from a headline of an article he didn't read is unknown.

Don't hold your breath on him walking it back.

I don't know this woman, never heard of her prior to this morning when it popped up on my news feed.

Barbera A. Res

Author of: Tower of Lies "What my 18 years of working with Donald Trump reveals about him".

The story I read was scathing about Trumps racism and his Antisemitism going back years.

Let me repeat, I don't know this woman and I got no idea if she has cred. So take it with a grain of salt until it can be determined to be credible.

I'll try to find the story I read.

In the mean time, if you got an hour to listen (who does?) there is a video of her being interviewed. out there on the web.

Left wing fact checker admits Trump never called Charlottesville neo-Nazis ‘very fine people’
https://nypost.com/2024/06/23/us-ne...never-called-neo-nazis-very-fine-people/

I'm talking about how he said tow different things on two different occasions. He does that quite often.


I thought you said it was about immigtation the entire time?


Stop guzzling the Kool-Aid.


I'm not interested in what people of your ilk think. If you thought I was a good person considering how you think, that's when I would be worried.

Modern world- who, what to TRUST- Res checks out as creditable-- funny she worked for the guy for 18 years, then trashes him-- her gender, the work, and making a good living probably had something to do about it... those who detest Trump- as a retired military officer I worked for and was around the smartest human being I've met- General Barry McCaffrey- he says Trump is a danger and unfit to hold office, General Kelly- ex- chief of staff for Trump- unfit, Milley- Trump danger and unfit- four star generals KNOW politics--there are alot more military leaders who say he's unfit rather than acceptable. Yes, Flynn- a disgraced Army general- supports Trump- Flynn needed Trump's pardon or he'd been jailed, Trump surrounds himself with felons- Stone needed a Presidential pardon for at least seven felonies---Trump, a convicted felon is a loser and unfit for a second Presidency. And, he is anti- Jewish and black.

Well, I heard him do that with my own ears.. So there is that!

Exactly,, hard to determine who to trust. That's why when I posted that, I tried to make it clear, I don't know if we can trust her account of things. Having said that, there seems to be enough evidence to indicate that she might be being honest. I just don't know for sure.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...utside-los-angeles-synagogue/ar-BB1oNZW7

Antisemetic libtard mob beats a Jewish woman outside a synagogue.

Right wing neoNazi kills protestor with car in Charlottesville...........



Yet you were silent then....

We have Charlottesville every single day in this country. And YOU are silent. Not one peep as your fellow libtards hold antisemetic and antiamerican protests, and assault and harrass Jews. Every day. Not one word from you about it. You are complicit.