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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Maybe so. One thing is certain, time will tell.

History will tell. And many of you will be on the losing side. There are three more trials to go and they are even more serious with even more solid evidence.


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US- United States- small us= "every legal citizen"-- the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, North Koreans- all smile and celebrate the division in US. They have intelligence services fanning the flames of dissent. Our jury system worked- as a former Republican- I'm sorry but he, Donald Trump did/probably commit adultery, he did falsify debts, and illegally paid sex workers for services rendered and call them legal bills---he is a disgusting human being who some want as President. We can do better. He's a felon. And his worse offenses are still to be tried.

He has more judgements coming. The Republican Party is a joke. Many good Republicans, but to many are kissing the boots.


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Professions you can't be licensed to work or rights you lose if you are a convicted felon in one of the reddest states there is, Tennessee.....

Hair dresser, car salesman, polygraph examiner, radiation therapist, a license for any business that sells alcohol, vote, hold public office, serve on a jury, or possess a firearm.

But somehow once again Tennessee voters will vote overwhelmingly for a felon who has been convicted on 34 counts.

"This criminal can't sell cars but he can be our president!"

Murica! Freedumb!


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Just watched some of the Trump response to his guilty verdict...same old thing, look at Trump "the victim" and how "unfairly" he is being treated.
No remorse or understanding of the verdict. Of coarse, Trump didn't miss the opportunity to grift for campaign donations...



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How many times can he keep claiming that what he does is everyone elses fault and his cult keeps believing it? I guess they never read The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Sadly this time the fate of our nation is on the line.....



Same as it ever was......


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It is sad that the Republican party has become a trump cult.

We are a two party government. No party should gain full control. It is important to have checks and balance. I have a conservative point of view when it comes to fiscal responsibility. Democrats are not faultless.

But trump has corrupted the Republican party away from conservative values and into this place they currently hold.

The space is not for the good of the country but is all about anti democrat. Moderates are shoved aside because trump brings a voting block that they all fear if they turn against him. So the Rubio's and Ted Cruz people will kowtow to trump to retain power. It is disgusting.

The Republican party should remove the tumor that is trump. They should have candidates like Liz Chaney who I may disagree with but I admire because she stands for her values.

trump is like a sewer drain that pulls all the water down the drain.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Professions you can't be licensed to work or rights you lose if you are a convicted felon in one of the reddest states there is, Tennessee.....

Hair dresser, car salesman, polygraph examiner, radiation therapist, a license for any business that sells alcohol, vote, hold public office, serve on a jury, or possess a firearm.

But somehow once again Tennessee voters will vote overwhelmingly for a felon who has been convicted on 34 counts.

"This criminal can't sell cars but he can be our president!"

Murica! Freedumb!

hairdresser?


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Sounds crazy but it's true.....

How Tennessee laws keep ex-offenders from getting good jobs

Employees with criminal records don’t make workplaces less safe, yet licensing restrictions bar them from dozens of careers

The State of Tennessee bars ex-offenders from holding dozens of jobs that require licenses, including hairdressers, car salespeople, and polygraph examiners.

https://mlk50.com/2017/10/05/how-tennessee-laws-keep-ex-offenders-from-getting-good-jobs/

Hairdresser, no. President? Sure, why not!?


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No surprise here........................

After Trump’s guilty verdict, threats and attempts to dox Trump jurors proliferate online

On online forums that have previously been linked to mass shootings, people are threatening violence and attempting to publicly identify the 12 New York jurors who on Thursday decided to convict former President Donald Trump.

The calls for retribution began immediately after the verdict was announced.

“Hope these jurors face some street justice,” one anonymous user on a pro-Trump forum wrote. Another suggestively asked, “Wouldn’t [it] be interesting if just one person from Trump’s legal team anonymously leaked the names of the jurors?”

Anonymity is supposed to add a layer of protection for jurors doing their civic duty. Once reserved only for cases involving violent criminal enterprises, the practice is becoming more common. The judge in the Trump New York trial issued an order in March agreeing with prosecutors that most information about the jurors would be sealed. Trump’s lawyers did not disagree, according to the order.

Overnight, however, anonymous internet users on sites that are known havens of hate and harassment began sharing names, home addresses and other personal information belonging to people they say might have been members of the jury, a practice known as doxxing.

This form of amateur online sleuthing can lead to real-life security issues. For example, a commonly used tactic called “swatting” involves a caller making a bogus crime report intended to trigger a massive law enforcement response to a target’s residence.

In the past, people whose personal information have been shared online in this way have been misidentified and sometimes have nothing at all to do with the issue at hand.

“Unfortunately, social media has given rise to a whole generation of amateur sleuthing that lacks journalism standards and ethics, leading to countless examples of mistaken identities and wrongful accusations,” Ben Decker, the CEO of Memetica, a threat analysis company, told CNN Friday. “While the sleuthers themselves face few, if any, consequences, the victims of these accusations become the targets of violent threats both on and offline,” he added.

Violent rhetoric targeting other people involved in the case, including the presiding judge, the district attorney and journalists who reported on the case, was identified by researchers at Advance Democracy, a nonprofit organization that conducts public-interest research, the group’s president, Daniel Jones, told CNN Friday.

Last summer, purported names, photographs and home addresses of grand jurors in Fulton County, Georgia, circulated on the far-right internet after the grand jury voted to indict Trump.

Similarly, after the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago in 2022, a Florida court removed information, including the office address, of a federal magistrate judge from its website, after internet users began targeting the judge, claiming the judge had signed off on the search warrant.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/31/tech/threats-doxxing-trump-jurors/index.html

This is how you handle your fear of justice. Threaten and intimidate everyone involved so they're afraid to judge you fairly. I mean that's how organized crime has always done it.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Professions you can't be licensed to work or rights you lose if you are a convicted felon in one of the reddest states there is, Tennessee.....

Hair dresser, car salesman, polygraph examiner, radiation therapist, a license for any business that sells alcohol, vote, hold public office, serve on a jury, or possess a firearm.

But somehow once again Tennessee voters will vote overwhelmingly for a felon who has been convicted on 34 counts.

"This criminal can't sell cars but he can be our president!"

Murica! Freedumb!

You can probably add a lot more professions as well. I carry a Professional Engineers license. a felony would invalidate it. My wife is a Licensed Therapist, they can lose their license for a DUI. Yeah..

A felony conviction is a serious matter.


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Originally Posted by WooferDawg
A felony conviction is a serious matter.

Only to some people. And speaking of felonies many wish to commit even more of them......

Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict

May 31 - Supporters of former President Donald Trump, enraged by his conviction on 34 felony counts by a New York jury, flooded pro-Trump websites with calls for riots, revolution and violent retribution.

After Trump became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, his supporters responded with dozens of violent online posts, according to a Reuters review of comments on three Trump-aligned websites: the former president's own Truth Social platform, Patriots.Win and the Gateway Pundit.

Some called for attacks on jurors, the execution of the judge, Justice Juan Merchan, or outright civil war and armed insurrection.

“Someone in NY with nothing to lose needs to take care of Merchan,” wrote one commentator on Patriots.Win. “Hopefully he gets met with illegals with a machete,” the post said in reference to illegal immigrants.

On Gateway Pundit, one poster suggested shooting liberals after the verdict. “Time to start capping some leftys,” said the post. “This cannot be fixed by voting."

Threats of violence and intimidating rhetoric soared after Trump lost the 2020 election and falsely claimed the vote was stolen. As he campaigns for a second White House term, Trump has baselessly cast the judges and prosecutors in his trials as corrupt tools of the Biden administration, intent on sabotaging his White House bid. His loyalists have responded with a campaign of threats and intimidation targeting judges and court officials.

“This was a disgrace, this was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt,” Trump told reporters afterwards, echoing comments he often made during the trial.

A 12-member jury found Trump guilty on Thursday of falsifying documents to cover up a payment to silence a porn star’s account of a sexual encounter ahead of the 2016 election. Sentencing is set for July 11, days before the Republican Party is scheduled to formally nominate Trump for president ahead of the Nov. 5 election. Trump has denied wrongdoing and is expected to appeal.

Trump continued his attacks online after the verdict.

On Truth Social, he called Merchan “HIGHLY CONFLICTED” and criticized his jury instructions as unfair. One commentator responded by posting a picture of a hangman's platform and a noose with the caption: “TREASONOUS MOBSTER OF THE JUSTICES SYSTEM!!”

Jacob Ware, a co-author of the book “God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America”, said the violent language used by Trump’s followers was testament to the former president’s “ironclad ability to mobilize more extreme supporters to action, both at the ballot box and through violence.”

“Until and unless he accepts the process, the extremist reaction to his legal troubles will be militant,” said Ware, a research fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

A spokesperson for Truth Social said, “It’s hard to believe that Reuters, once a respected news service, has fallen so low as to publish such a manipulative, false, defamatory and transparently stupid article as this one purely out of political spite.”

All three sites have policies against violent language, and some of the posts were later removed. Representatives of Patriots.Win and Gateway Pundit did not immediately return requests for comment. A Trump spokesperson also did not respond to an email seeking comment.

“HANG EVERYONE”

After Thursday's verdict, many of his supporters also said that his conviction was proof that the American political system was broken and that only violent action could save the country.
“1,000,000 men (armed) need to go to Washington and hang everyone. That's the only solution,” said one poster on Patriots.win. Another added: “Trump should already know he has an army willing to fight and die for him if he says the words...I’ll take up arms if he asks.”

Other posts specifically urged targeting Democrats, in some cases suggesting they be shot. “AMERICA FULLY DESTROYED BY DEMOCRATS. LOCK AND LOAD,” wrote a commentator on Gateway Pundit.

While the posts identified by Reuters all called for violence or insurrection, most fell short of the legal standard for a prosecutable threat, which typically requires evidence that the comment reflects a clear intent to act or instill fear, rather than simply suggesting a frightening outcome.

Still, one researcher who studies extremist militias said the guilty verdict could inspire violence by reinforcing a conviction among some of Trump's supporters that he's a victim of a conspiracy orchestrated by his enemies.

“I do think a lot of these folks have been looking for an excuse to maybe mobilize for a while,” said Amy Cooter of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies’ Center on Terrorism, Extremism and Counterterrorism. “I hope I’m wrong. I’ve said for a long time, though, that I would not be shocked to see violence result from a guilty verdict, either directed toward the jurors” or others connected to the case.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...nt-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/

Sentencing is set to be handed down on July the 11th. Anything is possible and New York better be ready for it.


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The Grand Olde Party- Party of Law and Order- history shows it is the party of only President who resigned, he LIED to American People about a political break-in- a burglary = a paranoid President whose people would do anything to get re-elected. Turn the wheel of time- Grand Olde Party has President who would not accept defeat, didn't hand over the power of government peacefully and broke multiple laws to try to stay in power......AND four years later, the former President is a convicted felon and states clearly he only wants to be dictator for a day--

he hasn't been held accountable for his worst crimes yet---put him in prison after his convictions on classified material and Georgia interference charges--- anyone but Trump.


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So expected. It is the rhetoric of weak minds and red neck bullies.

These are the same type of cowherds who attacked the capitol Jan 6th. Hide on the internet and make threats. Call people up and make threats.

This is what trump brings to the table thugs and cowherds.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
Only a very gullible person believes a group of manhatten citizens are not heavily biased against Trump. But we already knew that about you.

The jurors were selected by both legal teams. They listened to the evidence presented and came to a conclusion. Sorry you can't handle it, but all that does is make you a person that can't think beyond what a Bible, Tennis shoe salesman tells you what to think.


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Now he really has something he can brag about that is the truth.

He has been impeached more than any president.

He has been indicted more than any other president.

He is the only president to be convicted of a felony and one is not enough 34 times and counting.

He can for once brag and be telling the truth.

Welcome to Accountability.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
Now he really has something he can brag about that is the truth.

He has been impeached more than any president.

He has been indicted more than any other president.

He is the only president to be convicted of a felony and one is not enough 34 times and counting.

He can for once brag and be telling the truth.

Welcome to Accountability.


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Not every trumper is racist, but 99.9% of racists and hate groups are voting trump tres veces. If your political views align with trump, perhaps you need to adjust your moral compass.

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What's the matter facts hurt?

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Originally Posted by bonefish
What's the matter facts hurt?

They've been fed a steady diet of alternative facts.


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More of trump's BS.......

The claim: Trump faces up to 187 years in prison after conviction

A day after his historic criminal conviction, former President Donald Trump claimed he is facing what would amount to a life sentence in prison.

“Legal expense was marked down as legal expense,” Trump said at a press conference on May 31. “Think of it. This is the crime that I committed, that I’m supposed to go to jail for 187 years for.”

A similar claim circulated widely on Instagram (direct link, archive link) saying Trump faces 136 years behind bars. The post received more than 40,000 likes in less than one day.

Our rating: False

Each of the 34 counts Trump was convicted of individually has a maximum sentence of four years. Sentences can be imposed consecutively – meaning they must be served one after the other – but New York has a 20-year maximum consecutive sentence for Class E felonies.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/05/31/trump-prison-time-fact-check/73916922007/

But of course we've learned to expect this from a man who considers truth a foreign concept. But his followers will believe this BS.


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What's the matter facts hurt?

They've been fed a steady diet of alternative facts.

The law and order crowd are certainly using a lot of anarchic terminology lately.


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And they always stood up for the police...... until January 6th. Now those who committed assault against police officers are political hostages. Just ask their leader.


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Here is what should happen.


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Only one in ten people convicted of the crime trump was ever receive prison time. He shouldn't and won't get jail time. Being a disgusting human being is not a crime nor punishable with jail time.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Sad day, but a good day for Bananas.

You must have been having a good day.


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Fact check: Trump’s post-conviction monologue was filled with false claims

Former President Donald Trump said he was going to hold a “press conference” on Friday in the wake of his Thursday conviction in Manhattan on felony charges of falsifying business records.

Instead, Trump delivered a rambling monologue that was filled with false claims on subjects ranging from the Manhattan trial to immigration to tax policy.

Here is a fact check of some of the inaccurate or unsubstantiated claims he made.

Crime in New York City

Trump repeated his familiar claim that, while Manhattan prosecutors have been focusing on him, New York City has been experiencing record-high violent crime. He said this time that “you have violent crime all over this city at levels that nobody’s ever seen before.”

Facts First: Trump’s claim is not even close to true. Violent crime in New York City – and violent crime in Manhattan in particular – has plummeted since the early 1990s and is today nowhere near record levels.

New York City recorded 391 murders in 2023, down about 83% from the 2,262 in 1990; 1,455 rapes in 2023, down about 53% from the 3,126 in 1990; and 16,910 robberies in 2023, down about 83% from the 100,280 in 1990.

Michael Cohen’s crimes

Criticizing key prosecution witness Michael Cohen, Trump repeated a claim he made during the trial in April. He asserted that Cohen, his former lawyer and fixer, “got into trouble not because of me” but because of “outside deals” and “something to do with taxicabs and medallions, and he borrowed money, and that’s why he went.” He added that Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations to try to get himself a lighter penalty.

Trump continued: “He got in trouble for a very simple reason: because he was involved with borrowing a lot of money and he did something with the banks – I don’t know, defrauded the banks, but something happened.”

Facts First: Trump’s claim that Cohen got into trouble simply because of his non-Trump-related activities, such as those related to taxis and loans, is not true. First, Cohen’s case was referred to federal prosecutors in New York by the special counsel, Robert Mueller, who was appointed to investigate any connections between the Trump campaign and Russia. Second, Cohen’s three-year prison sentence in 2018 was for multiple crimes, some of which were directly related to Trump.

Most notably, Cohen was sentenced for campaign finance offenses connected to a hush money scheme during the 2016 presidential campaign to conceal Trump’s alleged extramarital relationships – the same hush money scheme that was central to this prosecution against Trump. Cohen was also sentenced to two months in prison, to run concurrently with the three-year sentence, for lying to Congress in 2017 in relation to previous talks about the possibility of building a Trump Tower in Moscow, Russia, including about the extent of Trump’s involvement in the aborted Moscow initiative and about when in 2016 the discussions ended. (The discussions continued into June 2016, the month after Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee, and did not conclude in January 2016 before the first votes were cast, as Cohen had claimed.)

Referring to Trump as “Individual-1,” Cohen said at the time of his 2018 guilty plea for making false statements to the US Senate Select Committee on Intelligence: “I made these statements to be consistent with Individual-1’s political messaging and out of loyalty to Individual-1.” When Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to the campaign finance violations, he said he broke the law “in coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office,” Trump.

Biden and the case

Trump repeated his frequent claim that the Manhattan case in which Trump was convicted “is all done by Biden and his people” and “in total conjunction with white house and the DOJ,” the federal Department of Justice.

Facts First: There is no basis for Trump’s claim. There is no evidence that President Joe Biden, his White House aides or the federal Justice Department had any role in launching or running Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution – and Bragg, a Democrat, is a locally elected official who does not report to the federal government. The indictment in the case was approved by a grand jury of ordinary citizens.

Trump has repeatedly invoked a lawyer on Bragg’s team, Matthew Colangelo, while making such claims; Colangelo left the Justice Department in 2022 to join the district attorney’s office as senior counsel to Bragg. But there is no evidence that Biden had anything to do with Colangelo’s employment decision. Colangelo and Bragg had been colleagues before Bragg was elected Manhattan district attorney in 2021.

Before Colangelo worked at the Justice Department, he and Bragg worked at the same time in the office of New York’s state attorney general, where Colangelo investigated Trump’s charity and Trump’s financial practices and was involved in bringing various lawsuits against the Trump administration.
The judge and an expert in election law

Trump claimed that, because of Judge Juan Merchan, “we weren’t allowed to use our election expert under any circumstances.” He claimed that this expert on election law was ready to testify “and the judge knocked him out, said you can’t testify.”

Facts First: Trump’s claim that Merchan refused to allow Trump’s team to use this witness “under any circumstances” is false. Merchan did not prohibit the potential witness, former Federal Election Commission chairman Bradley Smith, from testifying. Rather, Merchan limited what Smith was allowed to testify about. Merchan decided in March that Smith could provide background information about the FEC and define certain terms relevant to this case but could not opine on whether Trump broke federal election laws or offer opinions about how to interpret or apply those laws. After Merchan refused last week to change his mind, Trump’s defense decided not to call Smith as a witness.

Smith wrote on social media last week: “Judge Merchan has so restricted my testimony that defense has decided not to call me.”

Trump, offering a hint of a clarification, did proceed to say on Friday that Smith “essentially” was not able to testify. But his earlier comments made it sound like Merchan had imposed a total ban on Smith’s testimony.

Immigration and ‘the Congo’

Trump repeated a claim he has made before about “the Congo” and migration, again without specifying whether he was referring to the Democratic Republic of Congo or the neighboring Republic of Congo. He said: “The Congo has just released a lot of people from jail – Congo, Africa – just released a lot of people, a lot of people, from their prisons and jails, and brought them into the United States of America.”

Facts First: Trump’s claim is baseless. Experts on the Democratic Republic of Congo and the Republic of Congo, plus both pro-immigration and anti-immigration organizations in the US, told CNN they have not seen any evidence of Congolese prisons being emptied, let alone evidence of either country somehow having “brought” ex-prisoners into the US. Trump’s presidential campaign and an allied super PAC did not respond to requests to provide any evidence. A CNN search of two media databases turned up no evidence. And federal figures show that there is no “very big” influx of Congolese migrants of any kind, let alone former prisoners in particular.

“Everything he is saying isn’t true,” Democratic Republic of Congo spokesperson Patrick Muyaya Katembwe told CNN in a text message in March. Asked specifically about Trump’s claims about Congolese prisons being emptied of violent criminals, he said, “Never ever, it’s not true.” And, he said, “we want him to stop” telling these stories, since “it’s very bad for the country.”

Serge Mombouli, the Republic of Congo’s ambassador to the US, said in an email to CNN in March: “There is no truth or any sign nor a single fact supporting such a claim or statement.”

Trump and Nord Stream 2

Trump repeated his claim that he had ended a key Russian project – the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to Germany. He said: “You know, I ended the Russian pipeline. It was dead.”

Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. He did not “end” Nord Stream nor render it “dead.” While he did approve sanctions on companies working on the project, that move came nearly three years into his presidency, when the pipeline was already around 90% complete – and the state-owned Russian gas company behind the project said shortly after the sanctions that it would complete the pipeline itself. The company announced in December 2020 that construction was resuming. And with days left in Trump’s term in January 2021, Germany announced that it had renewed permission for construction in its waters.

The pipeline never began operations; Germany ended up halting the project as Russia was about to invade Ukraine in early 2022. The pipeline was damaged later that year in what has been described as a likely act of sabotage.

Biden’s tax policy

Trump claimed while denouncing the Biden administration: “They want to raise your taxes by four times.”

Facts First: This is false, just as it was when Trump made the same claim during the 2020 election campaign and in early 2024. Biden has not proposed to quadruple Americans’ taxes, and there has never been any indication that he is seeking to do so.

The nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center think tank, which analyzed Biden’s never-implemented budget proposals for fiscal 2024, found this: “His plan would raise average after-tax incomes for low-income households in 2024, leave them effectively unchanged for middle-income households, and lower after-tax incomes significantly for the highest-income taxpayers.”

The Tax Policy Center found that Biden’s proposal would, on average, have raised taxes by about $2,300 – but that’s about a 2.3% decline in after-tax income, not the massive reduction Trump is suggesting Biden wants. And critically, Tax Policy Center senior fellow Howard Gleckman noted to CNN on Friday that 95% of the tax hike would have been covered by the highest-income 5% of households.

The very biggest burden under the Biden plan would have been carried by the very richest households; the Tax Policy Center found that households in the top 0.1% would have seen their after-tax incomes decline by more than 20%. That’s “a lot,” Gleckman noted, but it’s still nowhere near the quadrupling Trump claims Biden is looking for. And again, even this increase would have been only for a tiny subset of the population.

Biden has promised not to raise taxes by even a cent for anyone making under $400,000 per year.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/31/politics/fact-check-trump-post-conviction-speech/index.html



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Trump is totally stupid to appeal this conviction. He’s not going to jail for this, and he is only losing about 5% of his base according to polls. He’s just throwing away your GOPer dollars on an appeal. Goper’s crack me up. Throwing money at Trump is a fools folly.


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It's much easier for someone to fight the legal process with appeal after appeal after appeal when they have other people paying their legal bills.


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I know if Biden doesn’t beat this convicted felon by a big margin the election is surely rigged.


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The company you keep often defines you:

Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.

Trump’s former campaign vice chairman, Rick Gates, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.

Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.

Trump’s former adviser and former campaign aide, Roger Stone, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.

Trump’s former adviser and former White House aide Peter Navarro, was charged, convicted, and is currently in prison.

Trump’s former campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.

The Trump Organization’s former CFO, Allen Weisselberg, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.

Trump’s former White House national security advisor, Michael Flynn, was charged and convicted.

Trump’s former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, was charged with wire fraud and money laundering, in addition to a conviction in a contempt case similar to Navarro’s. He’s currently awaiting sentencing.

Though he was later acquitted at trial, Trump’s former inaugural committee chair, Tom Barrack, was charged with illegally lobbying Trump on behalf of a foreign government. (Elliot Broidy was the vice chair of Trump’s inaugural committee, and he found himself at the center of multiple controversies, and also pled guilty to federal charges related to illegal lobbying.)

Two lawyers associated with Trump’s post-defeat efforts, Kenneth Chesebro and Sidney Powell, have pleaded guilty to election-related crimes.
And did I mention that former president’s business was itself found guilty of tax fraud? Because it was.

This does not include the fact that a jury held Trump liable for sexual abuse in a civil case.

What do all these people have in common? They are convicted felons who worked for a convicted felon.

"this is a disgrace, a conflicted judge, Biden did this."

Convicted felons along with a convicted ex-president. He still faces 54 more felony charges.

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“Peter Navarro” rofl That guy could walk back a story better than Trump himself. Total pos.


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So the only reason they filed a false document case was because it was trump?

New York State Has Issued Nearly 9,800 Felony Charges of Falsifying Business Records Since 2015

Data shows 9,794 cases involving state penal law 175.10, or falsifying business records in the first degree, have been arraigned in both local and superior New York state courts since 2015.

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourn...-falsifying-business-records-since-2015/

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I encourage everyone to watch the entire thing (knowing many here don't have the bandwidth) but 1:27:00 starts the Trump legal decision.

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As a felon, Donald Trump can no longer travel to 38 countries
By Daniel MillerUpdated May 31, 2024 10:15am CDTDonald J. TrumpFox TV Stations

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FILE-Former U.S. President Donald Trump boards his private airplane, also known as Trump Force One, as he departs Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
Donald Trump was found guilty in his hush money trial, making him a convicted felon, which now may affect his ability to travel.

Countries globally have strict entry requirements to protect residents and maintain national security.

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Citing the World Population Review, Newsweek reported that G7 nations Canada, the United Kingdom, and Japan have policies restricting entry to people with felony convictions.

Israel and China also enforced similar bans, and these rules can result in the denial of visas or entry permits to convicted felons, possibly impacting the Republican presidential frontrunner’s ability to travel internationally, according to Newsweek.

RELATED: Watch live: Trump press conference, other things to know after hush money conviction

Based on data from the World Population Review, the following countries won’t allow convicted felons to enter. And there are some countries that don’t actively check criminal records at the border, but can deny entry if it’s determined that the individual is a convicted felon.

Here’s a full list of those countries with both criteria.

What countries don’t allow convicted felons to enter?
Argentina
Australia
Canada
China
Cuba
India
Iran
Israel
Japan
Kenya
Macau
New Zealand
South Africa
Taiwan
United Kingdom
United States
What countries will deny entry if it’s discovered you are a convicted felon?
Brazil
Cambodia
Chile
Dominican Republic
Egypt
Ethiopia
Hong Kong
Indonesia
Ireland
Malaysia
Mexico
Morocco
Nepal
Peru
Philippines
Singapore
South Korea
Tanzania
Tunisia
Turkey
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
Trump was convicted of 34 felony charges in a scheme to illegally influence the 2016 election through a hush money payment to a porn actor who said the two had sex.

RELATED: Politicians react after Trump guilty verdict in hush money trial

The hush money trial and subsequent conviction mark the first time a former U.S. president has ever been tried or convicted in a criminal cases.

He still faces three other felony indictments, but the New York case was the first to reach trial and likely the only one ahead of the November election.

It's not clear if his diplomatic status as president, should he be re-elected, would supersede the laws of any of the nations listed above.

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/donald-trump-felon-travel-38-countries

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Only one in ten people convicted of the crime trump was ever receive prison time. He shouldn't and won't get jail time. Being a disgusting human being is not a crime nor punishable with jail time.

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I do not know what is going to happen on July 11th; however, this crime and this felon are different than some of the others that were tried on these charges. On all of the other cases concerning this crime, how many of the cases had to do with lying about paying off a porn star to try to influence a national election? His fixer already did jail time

How many of the convicted felons had a gag order imposed and basically broke it every time the sun came out.

A part of the sentence determination is the pre sentence interview and the defendants actions before and after the conviction.

How many times did trump violate the gag order? I believe the prosecution noted 10 or 11 but the actual number is more
Has the defendant said anything against the judge or his family? Yes and Yes
Do you think that trump will fess up to his crimes and act contrite and remorseful in his pre sentence interview? Hell no, not a chance
What will trump do/say between the conviction and sentencing? Who knows but we will find out-and it will matter

If somehow, say the judges daughters address or the jury members names/addresses/workplaces get leaked and he says them at one of his redneck rallies, I think he easily could get the upper limit of a concurrent sentence or some mix of jail and home confinement.

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So much material for future US History books. Its a shame they probably will be banned.

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Countries globally have strict entry requirements to protect residents and maintain national security.

That brings up an entirely different issue which the bananas seem to ignore..


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Countries globally have strict entry requirements to protect residents and maintain national security.

That brings up an entirely different issue which the bananas seem to ignore..


I would very much like you to explain this comment.
Please connect the dots for me, because I'm not familiar with 'different issue' you've inferred.


I'll quote Denzel Washington's character Joe Miller in the movie "Philadelphia": "explain it like I'm a 6-year old."



thanks in advance.


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