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So if we aren't going to talk about stuff we don't know about for sure... and we're going to let the guys in charge handle it, then what are we going to talk about?
Is it a reading comprehension problem? There is a difference between talking about it and making it into a huge deal. I'll make it real clear for you............I feel that the media and many of you fans are trying to force the Brown's hands.
Btw...........I answered your question on the other thread and then you didn't respond. What's the matter........wasn't there anything in there that you could belittle? 
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U need to quit talking about BQ and what he can and can't do ... U base everything u know about him on 3 or 4 games spread out over 2 years of college ... and thats WRONG ... and so is alot of what u think about him ..
1. BQ HAS GREAT FEET .... he can throw VERY VERY WELL ON THE RUN .... he is VERY VERY ACCURATE ONT HE MOVE ....
2. what QB does not succomb to pressure up the middle??? look at ANY QB IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME ... when U give them all day they succeed .. when U don't whatever there competency level is it goes down ..
your right on ONE THING and ONE THING only when it comes to BQ ... he deos put to much weight on his back foot when pressure comes up the gut .. he did it on his 2nd pass on Sunday ....
the rest is pretty much a LOAD OF CRAP that is based on the fact U KNOW VERY VERY LITTLE ABOUT BQ ...
leave BQ out of your sticking up for DA other than to say hes UNPROVEN .. U can stick up for DA without bringing BQ into it ..... U will have plenty of things to rip him for once he does play .. CANT U AT LEAST WAIT TILL THEN????
and if U came here 8 weeks ago .. you'd be rippin DA cause 8 weeks ago almost everyone ripping him now did think he was HOF bound ..*LOL* .. its that "witch way is the wind blowing" thing ... *L* ..
GM ... me being right more than U is a FACT ... and if U don't know that .. your only kidding yourself ... now that doesn't mean I'll be right on this one .. but HISTORY is certainly FIRMLY on my side ..
and my point on the talk shows was that FOLKS OUTSIDE OF C-TOWN don't have near the same OVER INFLATED VALUE of DA as U and most of the rest of the folks that give him way to much credit for what the team did this year ...
and your right those talk shows prolly said about 4 - 6 wins . JUST LIKE MOST ON HERE and everywhere around C-Town did .. so your opinions were "better" than there's .. *LOL* ..
Toad .. no he broke them .. *L* ..
at the end of the day fellas ... its nice to be having this discussion/disagreement from this side of the coin than the one were used to having it from ...
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Wouldn't you just love to know what he thinks about DA compared to BQ?
Oooooh tell me tell me tell meee. I'll be good I promise.  Seriously, I find this interesting, what do you know here, Vers?
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---I saw BQ way more than 3 or 4 games. Hell, they are always on the tube.
---I never said he couldn't throw on the run. I said he gets on his back foot when he gets pressure up the middle.
---Yeah, QBs do all struggle w/pressure up the middle. But, why is it an excuse for BQ, but an indictment for DA? *L*
---The rest is a load of crap? I didn't say anything else about him. Bro, you are way to sensitive when it comes to him.
---I wasn't ripping him. I was trying to talk about DA's strengths and weaknesses. I mentioned that BQ had a similar issue when it comes to pressure up the middle. That's an observation.
---And if I was here 8 weeks ago and everyone was praising DA to high heaven and discounting BQ, then my tone would be different. As it is............I think it is too early to distinguish between the two right now. Both have strengths and both have things they need to work on. I really don't know how it will turn out.
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Just clickin...Jon Clayton of ESPN has this agree or disagree section where ESPN polls certain questions and then Clayton agree or disagrees.
Poll was Is it smart of the Browns to move DA? (close enough) 66% said no Browns should keep DA. Clayton Agreed with them siting - BQ would get eaten up alive next year with our schedule...regardless of how good he is we would need 2 QBs for next season. We faced 4 times one of the best Pass rushing D's in the NFL in the Pats, Steelers twice and Seahawks. Not one sack or major knockdown on DA sitting in the pocket. He just don't get it...CLAYTON WE GOT AN OL NOW!
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at the end of the day fellas ... its nice to be having this discussion/disagreement from this side of the coin than the one were used to having it from ... Just wait till the Browns make the decision on what they will do with DA... 
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Oooooh tell me tell me tell meee. I'll be good I promise. Seriously, I find this interesting, what do you know here, Vers?
I really don't know. I was just saying it would be cool to know. Sorry.
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I think we should be trying to resign DA before we need to offer a tender. To me he is more important to this team than any draft picks we could get. Savage has proven that he has been able to bring in big name FAs to the Browns. We will still have a 2nd and 3rd pick. The money we would have spent if we were lucky enough to get a 1st we can spend on a top FA and DA.
We have an unknown quanity in Quinn, not to mention injuries occur every week in the NFL. To have two QBs that can win games in the NFL is a luxury that very few teams can afford. We are turning the corner in regards to talent and wins. If we were to lose a QB due to injury we could be looking at a dismal season because of a lack a leader at the QB position.
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I say we get rid of both DA and BQ for draft picks!  I mean! most people on here have said that anyone could do what DA did behind our line, so let KD be the guy.
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I say we get rid of both DA and BQ for draft picks!
I mean! most people on here have said that anyone could do what DA did behind our line, so let KD be the guy.
There ya go.
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Clayton Agreed with them siting - BQ would get eaten up alive next year with our schedule...
And DA wouldn't with his pinpoint accuracy and great decisions to force balls?
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It has zero to do with me being to sensitive about BQ ... Since you've been back every single time you've defended DA you've taken shots at BQ ... you;ve said he was innacurate ... built up all his stats against inferior comp and played like crap against the better comp (WITCH IS JUST WRONG .. ) .. was basically a choke ... and didn't throw well under pressure ... ya .. your just defending DA ..  like I said ... stick to saying BQ's a blank sheet of paper int he NFL and U wotn hear a word from me .. but if u continue to spew crap about him I will get involved ... I really don't want to get involved in this ... I've stated my opinion (and IRONICALLY enough are assesments of DA are pretty damm similiar .. and I am one of the few that give him credit for BEING AMAZINGLY ACCURATE on some of his throws .. i just put ALOT MORE WEIGHT on his REMARKALBY BAD INACCURACY ON alot of others than U do .. oh before I forget .. yourthe one that told me pre-draft U hardly ever saw him play .. your words from before the draft ... so don't blame me for that one ...  but this is just BS ... Quote:
Yeah, QBs do all struggle w/pressure up the middle. But, why is it an excuse for BQ, but an indictment for DA? *L*
I said DA struggles when he has to move his feet .. AMAZINGLY enough U say pretty much the same thing .... that his FEET are his main problem ...
U know what .. not gonna break it down as I want to stay out of it .. just want to say that MOVEMENT AND PRESSURE is a much bigger problem for DA than it is for BQ ... and U KNOW IT ...
don't LUMP ME IN WITH THE DOLTS ... I won't do it to U ... so please don't do it to me ..
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*LOL* .... Ya let close the door on getting any offers ... pretty smart decision there .. .... I mean after all when everything around him was ABSOLUTELY PERFECT he did OK ... who could ask for more ...
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I just think at this point it is more important to get him signed long term. He is our starter at this point and we don't know what the future brings in regards to Quinn. You seem certain that Quinn will easily beat out DA. I'm not. I do believe your opinion of Quinn comes from football knowledge and not blind homerism but nothing is for certain.
I disagree with what you think of DA. I think he is a legit starter in this league. I don't believe that most of , or for that matter any backup could have done what DA did. I do think he has a chance to improve his game beyond where it is now. Going off your opinion on Quinn I thionk Quinn's ceiling is higher. The thing is we are getting close to being a contender and having two QBs capable of winning games is more appealling to me.
Sure we can tender him and sign him to a long term deal like Romo got but that can get very expensive. You have been saying that you would be suprised if we got a 2nd out of DA. After watching the past few games I agree.
Now Romo went down hill at the end of last season and came out gang busters this year. Jones was hesitant to sign him long term and he paid for it in the end. What if we just give him the highest tender this year and he decides to ride it out is a question I don't want to gamble on. If Quinn were to prove himself not worthy yet we could be looking at a huge contract to resign DA or lose him. The only other option would be to franchise him. I think that would be crazy.
Trying to sign him long term is the best option IMO. If we can't get it done we can put the highest tender on him. If we can sign him long term and Quinn clearly is better than him we can still trade him and it would be affordable to any team interested.
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I think we should be trying to resign DA before we need to offer a tender. To me he is more important to this team than any draft picks we could get.
I agree.
Anything less than a first this year and a second next year is a bad deal....and even that isn't great.
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I'm confused here Toad, hopefully you don't have me on ignore...lol 
"would you surrender a 1st round pick for someone like Anderson?
I just might. Do I think Anderson is worth it? (talking about the Bears possible interest in DA).
"If it were "just" a 1st rounder being offered, it'd have to be a top-5 pick to get me to bite, and only if I had a guy that I viewed as a game-breaker available at that spot."
Just confused where your opinion stands and do you think DA really is only worth a top 5 pick in the draft...knowing the draft the way you do? Although this draft (unless RB is the need) seems to be very top heavy.
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Hehe.....You probably know me well enough by now to know that I ride the fence when it comes to discussions just so that we can spark a conversation. Making a statement means a mind is made up, while asking questions means a mind is open and exploring every angle of a situation.
So, to your point. Do I think Anderson is worth a top-5 pick? No way in Hell. What I feel is that IF we're going to accept ONLY one draft pick in a trade for Anderson, it would have to be a top-5 pick. I base that on my own PERSONAL value for what he does for this team, and what he represents as insurance.
Now, regarding other teams.......Can I see a situation where a team is willing to badly overpay to land a QB, even if that QB isn't special, only decent? Knowing that they've been burned by their current highly-drafted QB's, I wouldn't put it past them to overpay for someone like Anderson.
In Chicago's case, I do know that Anderson wouldn't put up 29 TD's and an 82 rating. They don't have our line (how sweet it is to say that ) our recevers, or our running game. To me, that'd make Anderson a guy who's rating would be in the mid-to-high 70's. If there isn't another QB out there to be had, do I pay a high price to get someone who can get it down field in bad elements? Someone who isn't going to have the ball flop right out of their hand? I won't do it, but desperate teams do desperate things, so I can't rule out the possibility, though I'm basing that opinion on a team completely losing their minds and doing the unthinkably rediculous.
To me, Anderson is worth a 2nd round pick in terms of actual production going down the road.
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I think we should be trying to resign DA before we need to offer a tender. To me he is more important to this team than any draft picks we could get.
I agree.
Anything less than a first this year and a second next year is a bad deal.Q..and even that isn't great.
I think we need to look at what Quinn signed. That's about all Anderson can realistically expect from the Browns. You can't pay your backup (maybe) more than your starter. If he won't go for those numbers then it's a high tender and stick to the 1 and 3. Quinn money would probably be over-paying but Anderson has us in a bit of a pickle after a decent season. Who knows what's really going through DA's head right now?
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I think we need to look at what Quinn signed. That's about all Anderson can realistically expect from the Browns. You can't pay your backup (maybe) more than your starter.
We just did that this year... DA only made something like 400K or perhaps a little more,,, But I get your drift.. 
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I think we need to look at what Quinn signed. That's about all Anderson can realistically expect from the Browns. You can't pay your backup (maybe) more than your starter.
We just did that this year... DA only made something like 400K or perhaps a little more,,, But I get your drift..
We'll be making up for that little oversight next year. Who knew it was going to work out that way? We can't pay out more than Quinn's money for Anderson, if he's going to remain a Brown. Anyone crazy enough to pay more than that for Anderson will also be crazy enough to kiss a 1 and 3 goodbye. I'd be more comfortable with both of them in camp next year.
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NRTU.
Here's some interesting reading from the fans in Chicago. It's interesting to note that while some fans over there get it, some absolutely don't have a clue. We're clearly more knowledgable The one commonality is that they recognize Anderson was surrounded by pro-bowl talent all over the place.
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After reading their comments , why don't they just say... Derek Anderson is "WHO WE THOUGHT HE IS!!" 
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Some of them get it,, build an Oline and lots of good things can happen... that's for true.. I did get a kick out of one guy who wrote that Anderson has been a "Journeyman QB his entire life"....LOL His exact quote was: Quote:
What's so special about Derek Anderson? He's been a journeyman QB his entire life.
Truth is, Anderson has been a Bench Warmer in the NFL until this year...LOL I thought Journeyman was a guy with a ton of experience.. DA had vitually none till this year....
That poster is also the first of them to point out that a line is what we built here and suddently, Anderson is playing like a top 10 QB... Fact is, that may well be what caused him to excel,,
Or it could be, as that same poster pointed out, as simple as the Line AND the two top 10 receivers we have (BE and KW),, and I'll add something a little further,, it could be all of that + Jamal Lewis!
Oh,,, wait, it's a team,, of course,, what the heck was I thinking,,, Anderson is a dog, it's everyone around him that's great...LOL
Anderson did his part, but a team that thinks they are getting the second coming of the best QB they've ever had,, better realize that it takes more than what Anderson has all by himself..
Probably the same could be said for any QB...
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I didn't copy over the exact post.. but it was one of the earlier ones, the first one that mentioned the OL... the Bears, the team that was in the super bowl last year wants to model themselves after the Browns to get back to that level... I LOVE IT!!!!
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Oh yeah, that was funny,, really funny,., From the superbowl to copying the Browns in two years,,, a new best selling book by author Lovie Smith  You know what, that's smart thinking,, how long have the fans on this board and the main board before this one been saying fix the line, the rest will come along? I think I joined that other board a year or two, maybe three after it started,, and at least since then, people have been saying it... Cracks me up,, oldest concept in the NFL,, yet always the one that seem forgotten,, Go figure.
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I think I've been saying OLine! OLine! OLine! prior to the draft for several years now. I think that was even my sig prior to one of the drafts (probably 2001). It goes way back...probably to 1999 though
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GM ... me being right more than U is a FACT ... and if U don't know that .. your only kidding yourself ... now that doesn't mean I'll be right on this one .. but HISTORY is certainly FIRMLY on my side ..
and my point on the talk shows was that FOLKS OUTSIDE OF C-TOWN don't have near the same OVER INFLATED VALUE of DA as U and most of the rest of the folks that give him way to much credit for what the team did this year ...
and your right those talk shows prolly said about 4 - 6 wins . JUST LIKE MOST ON HERE and everywhere around C-Town did .. so your opinions were "better" than there's .. *LOL* ..
Your being right more than me is not a FACT, it is a theory in your over inflated ego bud So who is kidding themselves.
Now as far as me having a overinflated Value of DA GMAFB How often have you seen me pimping DA? How many times this season, have you even see me comment on the QB deadbate? You don't even know how I feel about DA since I have never taken the time to point out all of his good and bad points on this board, or IF I think he can improve enough to keep the starting Job, or IF I think BQ will out play him, and make us forget all about him.
 But since you know how I feel about the subject, why don't you go ahead and explain it to everybody for me bro. 
Now if most of them predicted 4-6 wins, then YEP I must have known more than them since I was closer in my prediction then they were.
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A 2 and a 3rd and I would tell everybody to kiss my ample sized arse.
OVER INFLATED VALUE OF DA ..... theres the proof ... thanks for playing ... so much for that rant about me knowing how u feel about DA .. I said u had an OVERINFLATED VALUE of DA and theres the proof ... *L* ..
your a good man GM .. so if u think you know more about football than I do .. OK .. U know more about football than I do .. feel better now??? ....
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Let's face the true hard facts... Nobody including DA himself, but Mike Riley thought that DA would be a successful NFL QB... The Rats took a chance and so did the Browns... Why because of his size and arm and he did have success in an NFL style system in college... DA does fit the proto-typical NFL QB criteria... Mike Riley said the same about Matt Moore who Dallas took a chance on... The Panthers picked him up and he played well for the Cats for the final 3 games this year... Me thinks Mr. Riley knows a thing or two about QB's at the college level and in the NFL... His coaching track record proves he does... I myself watched DA for his intire career @ OSU... He lead them two three straight Bowls, no other OSU QB ever did that... He threw alot of TD;s... He threw a ton of picks too... He is an very good athlete but does not throw well on the move... Never has... Probably never will... I thought he stunk... I didn't think DA would pan either... HE DID PAN THIS SEASON. PERIOD!!! What is DA worth? He is worth what the NFL market bears... For a QB that puts up a season with a 10-6 record after taking over for a team that was 4-12 the previous year... Along with these stats for 2007 and his career overall. 2007 - 527 298 56.5 3787 29 5.5 19 3.6 78t 14/109 82.5; Career - 644 364 56.5 4580 34 5.3 27 4.2 78t 22/175 79.0 DA has about a 600 winning percentage as a starting QB in the NFL and this was his first year as a starter and 3rd season overall... You all know that I don't feel stats are the whole story and are the primary focus of losers... THE BIGGEST THING HE SHOWED ME THIS YEAR WAS HOW HE HANDLED HIMSELF ON AND OFF THE FIELD AND HOW HE LEAD! He let his play do the talking and focused his comments on the team... He gave all around him the credit and praise and didn't blame anyone for losses, errors, bad play, bad decissions but himself. So what is a starting NFL QB worth who lead by example, by his play and put up those kinds of numbers with an organization like the Browns??? Weather I want to admitt it or not or whomever doesn't want to admit it or not, he is probalby worth a 1st round pick... Maybe more... Only time will tell... We shall see... There are several teams that will need new, viable, proven, starting QB's next season... Those teams will be interested in DA... Weather anyone here knows or realizes this or not...  Keep this in mind everyone... Bottom line is no one here really knows what the market will bear for DA... What a fun ride this season was... Hope to enjoy more seasons like this in the very near future... Take care, hang in and enjoy my Browns Brothers and Sisters. P.S. IMO, JL had better be resigned by the Browns for next season... This is one the biggest no brainer moves for this upcoming off season.
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For sure...if we don't get a 1st and 3rd minimum, keep him.......if I had any say so in the matter, I would hold out for more because keeping the kid isn't a problem for me, or the team.
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*LOL* .. Ya I'm sure BQ's quaking in his boots over that one .. he prolly wakes up in cold sweats every night .. oh please get rid of DA .. please please please I couldn't handle that .. Just when i think U have hit the bottom of the ignorant statement barrell u come through and bust right through the bottom of it and take it to new lows ... *L* ..
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Ok, I didn't catch this until Diam pointed it out. I seriously doubt Quinn is afraid of competetion. The way things are reported DA and Brady are friends. I don't think he would be so petty with someone he considers a friend, let alone anyone else.
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I don't think BQ doubts his skills and physical abilities to the degree that he would fear competition. Competition is what fuels players.
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A 2 and a 3rd and I would tell everybody to kiss my ample sized arse.
OVER INFLATED VALUE OF DA ..... theres the proof ... thanks for playing ... so much for that rant about me knowing how u feel about DA .. I said u had an OVERINFLATED VALUE of DA and theres the proof ... *L* ..
your a good man GM .. so if u think you know more about football than I do .. OK .. U know more about football than I do .. feel better now??? ....
You forgot to mention your "Proof" If you think I overvalue the QB position then I can call it a difference of opinion. Right now I consider DA a average NFL QB who could turn out to be a good NFL QB, or he could turn out to be a good 2nd string QB, and I wouldn't trade a good backup QB for a 2 and 3rd round pick. IMO QB's are to important to a team, to have a stiff as your second stringer. Way to many QB's go down to injury during the football season, and not having a solid backup can ruin a teams season quicker than our offensive line in 1999 could give up a sack.
Now as far as me knowing more about football than you bud.... I didn't say that either. I said it was not a FACT that you were right more often than me Haus.
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LOL....Wow....That is pretty quick
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DA is what, the 17th ranked QB in the NFL?
And ranks 28th in completion pct.
His poor completion pct lost us the game against the Raiders...and his poor decision making lost us the game against the Bungles.
He's not worthy of a first round pick.....but we'll see how good GM's memories are in April.
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It is only a problem for BQ as it creates a competitive environment.
Peen,, Diam has a way of saying something that just about makes you want to take his head off.. so arrogant and noisy that it makes you want to punch him,,,
But in this case, the way he put it may suck, but he's right, I doubt BQ is worried at all about competition.. He's faced competition all his life so I doubt he is the least bit worried about it. I'm actually pretty confident that he would be looking forward to it...
As things stand right now, if the Browns decided to find a way to keep DA, the only chance BQ has of cracking the starting lineup is via competition, so if I were a betting man, I'd say that he would want competition with DA.
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.. " Diam has a way of saying something that just about makes you want to take his head off.. so arrogant and noisy that it makes you want to punch him.. " ......................................................................................................... Ok : But how do really feel
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It is only a problem for BQ as it creates a competitive environment.  How is it a problem? Unless DA is leap of talent above Quinn it won't shake him.. Because if he truely possesses the skills that DA doesn't...and trust me a QB knows what he has..he won't fear any competition..he'll go out to prove he's the better QB.. Perhaps that Michigan win over Florida did something to U
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How is it a poblem?
It's a poblem if it creates a controversy... this year went like this for most... Frye starts and is quickly shown the door.. in comes Anderson who the vast majority of people thought was keeping the position warm for Quinn until somewhere around the bye week... then as Anderson played well enough for us to win some games, more and more people began to believe he should finish the season... than as we almost made the playoffs, there is now a big discussion as to who is better..... So if you start next season, and let's say that Quinn does win the starting job, he may struggle at first, heck he may struggle for a while (I don't personally feel he will struggle to awfully bad, but I also believe the margin for error in our schedule next year is much less than it was this year)... but a lot of fans, well enough to make some noise anyway, will have selectively forgotten DA's struggles of this year and will only remember his TDs and his dramatic finishes, even if many of them were overcoming his own deficiencies... So how long before we are in the middle of a QB controversy? That, as I see it, is the big poblem... 
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Guess you really didn't read Peens question and response..
DA was a unknown this season and Quinn (if he's the starter) would be in the same position..unknown...
There will those will be screaming about DA being dealt away if it happens..there will those who will scream if he stays..
It's already being stirred..
Bottom line is knowing what you have and want in both QB's before you do anything..
There are things that intrigue me about DA...and things I wonder if he can overcome..his inability to be accurate in the short area of the field is alarming to me..
His decision making is equally alarming..
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