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Take off your rose colored glasses.

He not only goes off topic continuously. He mumbles words like military. He loses context of space and time.

Leaders in the field of dementia and alzheimer's have been clear about it. His father had alzheimer's.

Don't lie to yourself you get enough of that from your media sources.

He rambles. Thats it. Thats because, unlike Biden, his speeches not prewritten and he doesnt use a teleprompter. Only an idiot or a biased libtard malcontent would claim that's dementia.

Compare that to Biden, who is completely lost on stage and people have to grab his hand and show him where to go. Repeatedly!! He has no idea where he is or what is happening.He stands frozen or wanders off. He is completely incompetent. His brain is mush. But I know libtards would vote for a potato before they would vote for Trump. Congrats, this is your opplrtunity to continue with potato in chief.

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Cutting eligibility off at 75 (~the average male life expectancy in the US [might actually be lower now]) feels like a pretty easy number to land on. Definitely could go lower. It just seems like it would be difficult to come up with a legitimate argument against life expectancy. Ruling out both the options we're being given sounds good to me for now.

There is and always has been a value to experience. At what age do we decide that experience isn't as important as Physical/mental Vitality?

Experience is great. Unfortunately, at a certain point the ability to learn new things diminishes. In a president the ability to assimilate rapidly changing information from multiple sources and formulate a response is critical.

Age is great for advisors/mentors. The ability to read off a teleprompter doesn't necessarily translate to a crisis situation.

Throw in the optics/figurehead aspect. The leader of a country has an impact on how other countries interact with/approach that country. Having a leader that appears to be "slipping" can entice foreign entities to push boundaries.

As I said, the age that the average person dies at seems a pretty logical cut off. Earlier would probably be better, but 75 is pretty far past anyone's peak "fitness," mental and/or physical.

I'm not saying an older person couldn't do it. Yet, it seems likely that someone at a more optimal age could do it better. What that age is is certainly debatable. Does anyone think it's 80-something?

Having the person that could do it best be the person doing the job would seem to be ideal. Unfortunately, modern presidential politics seems to have focused on "policy"/"narratives" rather than ability to handle the duties of the office. Personally, leaving policy to the legislature and focusing on ability to "execute" in the executive branch would be more in line with how the system was designed.

No matter what you say, or how you say it, or about whom. Character matters above all. Biden has character, Trump simply lacks it. If my choice is between two men that age, I'll take Biden every damn day.


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Here you go. Justify this:

The foundation of American Democracy is the peaceful transfer of power.

Trump failed his "Oath of Office."

The House of Representatives of the 117th U.S. Congress adopted one article of impeachment against Trump of "incitement of insurrection", stating that he had incited the January 6 attack of the U.S. Capitol. His second impeachment.

What former president owes millions of dollars for defamation and sexual assault? trump

A jury awarded $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll on Friday in a stinging and expensive rebuke to former President Donald Trump for his continued social media attacks against the longtime advice columnist over her claims that he sexually assaulted her in a Manhattan department store.

The award, coupled with a $5 million sexual assault and defamation verdict last year from another jury in a case brought by Carroll, raised to $88.3 million what Trump must pay her.

What former president was found liable for fraud?

Judge orders Donald Trump and his companies to pay $355 million. The judge found they engaged in a years-long scheme to dupe banks and others with financial statements that inflated his wealth.

On May 30, history was made as a New York jury found former President Donald J. Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. This marked the first time a former U.S. president has been criminally convicted.

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You directed your comments to me. Nobody else. You can stop with your BS any time now.

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Trump and Biden supporters are the ones trying to "pretend" that the other is worse

And yes, you changed it from worse, to no worse. You're not fooling anyone here.

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So you're also saying that neither should be president because both have cognitive issues now? Last I read you intended to vote for Biden.

I said when it comes to cognitive decline neither has an advantage. Both have issues. Sadly one of these two will be president and I think Biden is by far the better of those two options based on other factors. You know, there's more than one thing to consider here. I guess I could vote for someone else in a form of protest but that would only help promote that Biden get one less vote and would have zero impact on the election.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
No matter what you say, or how you say it, or about whom. Character matters above all. Biden has character, Trump simply lacks it. If my choice is between two men that age, I'll take Biden every damn day.

Mother Teresa would probably be a lousy president, too.

Character definitely matters. Yet, it's not the only thing that matters.

Framing it as a choice between two men that age is, to me, a questionable way to look at it. "Should we be making choices between two men that age for that job?" seems a question with "No" as the easy answer.

Why in the world are we picking between these two? Yes, one can do it, and I can see Biden as the less bad (but still very bad) choice. But, why? A system that asks that question (Trump or Biden for president) is a broken/faulty/ridiculous/rigged/lousy (basically any antonym of good) system.


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Have you decided yet whether you prefer being eaten by a shark or electrocuted? Trump bought it up yet again in Wisconsin saying how much he preferred their lakes over oceans because lakes don't have sharks. He seems rather fixated on it.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You directed your comments to me. Nobody else. You can stop with your BS any time now.

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Trump and Biden supporters are the ones trying to "pretend" that the other is worse

And yes, you changed it from worse, to no worse. You're not fooling anyone here.

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So you're also saying that neither should be president because both have cognitive issues now? Last I read you intended to vote for Biden.

I said when it comes to cognitive decline neither has an advantage. Both have issues. Sadly one of these two will be president and I think Biden is by far the better of those two options based on other factors. You know, there's more than one thing to consider here. I guess I could vote for someone else in a form of protest but that would only help promote that Biden get one less vote and would have zero impact on the election.

I directed the words to the board commenting on words you wrote. I know you don't make distinctions. Everything is about you and against you. Especially when you seem to be in your feelings.

I commented on an idea using my own words. I didn't claim you said anything. You're the one trying to change things now.

I'm saying if people told pollsters they weren't going to vote for Biden or Trump, it'd be more likely for someone else to end up on the ballot when it is actually time to vote. If those are the options then, do what you must. Calling Biden a good option now is bonkers. (Trump moreso.)

Don't cry and tell me "but those are the options." Those are the options because you and the other "sheeple" accept those as the options now. Saying you'll vote for a bad option contributes to that being the option you're given.

It's not brain surgery. Framing things as the lesser of two evils is a propaganda technique.


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You obviously have no idea how this works. when you directly address a poster you respond to their post. when you're addressing the board you use "j/c". But of course you know this and are now pretending not to know it in same lame attempt to cover your ass. You claim I'm crying while you are playing ignorant.


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You obviously have no idea how this works. When you directly address a poster you respond to their post. When you're addressing the board you use "j/c". When you break down their quotes and respond directly to their quotes you are responding to them, not everyone else. But of course you know this and are now pretending not to know that in same lame attempt to cover your ass. You claim I'm crying while you are playing ignorant.

The lesser of the two evils is the reality in this case. I had no idea that stating reality is now known as propaganda. Tell me what about this is propaganda........

One of these two will be elected president. That leaves only two legitimate options to vote for that has any chance of becoming president. If I plan to vote for anyone that has any chance of becoming president I must choose the lesser of the two evils.

I don't like the way our system is set up. I don't like that only those two parties stand a chance of being elected. That's something I think we both share. Yet at the same time I'm fully aware of the situation and stating what that is, isn't propaganda no matter how hard you try to twist it.


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If both biden and teump were adequately trained surgeons would you feel comfortable letting either perform surgery on you?

If both were appropriately trained lawyers, would you trust either to keep you out if jail, or?

If both were licensed mechanics, would you trust either to fix the brakes on your car?

I think the answer to all those is no, with the exception of trump being my lawyer. I am pretty sure he would ribe someone to get me off. Otherwise, neither has the mental capacity for ne to trust them with my life. So why am supposed to trust either with my country?


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You obviously have no idea how this works. when you directly address a poster you respond to their post. when you're addressing the board you use "j/c". But of course you know this and are now pretending not to know it in same lame attempt to cover your ass. You claim I'm crying while you are playing ignorant.

I was directly addressing what you said, to the board in general. I wasn't directly addressing you. When specifically mentioning Trump and Biden supporters, that's not addressing you. In truth, I could go without seeing a response from you ever again and see that quite favorably.

It seems you (that's the word one uses when addressing someone directly) are attempting to twist things because your ego can't handle being wrong or left out. Sorry, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Words and practices don't change their meanings because you use them in a particular (wrong) way. Not everyone wants your feedback and most would appear to rather get responses from folks who are capable of having an actual discussion.

One uses j/c when not responding directly to something that has been written in the thread. I was responding to the idea you presented. Yet, I wasn't addressing you. When I'm calling you out for your BS directly instead of addressing an idea that you happened to mention, I'll use "you" and make it quite clear.

If you want to make it about me (by using "you,") I'll grudgingly give you reasons to cry some more, which you'll likely try to twist, while you roll on the floor like a toddler throwing a tantrum.

I'm not playing ignorant, you just seem to be oblivious of anything anyone else says except in how you maladaptively misapply it to your own flawed, self-centered reasoning, or lack thereof.


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You obviously have no idea how this works. when you directly address a poster you respond to their post. when you're addressing the board you use "j/c". But of course you know this and are now pretending not to know it in same lame attempt to cover your ass. You claim I'm crying while you are playing ignorant.

I was directly addressing what you said, to the board in general. I wasn't directly addressing you.

And you expect people to actually believe that BS? Once again I think stand up comedy is a profession you should look into.

My ego can certainly handle the likes of you and your twisted up BS. The only one crying here is you in your desperation to try and pretend you were addressing this with the entire board while directly quoting and addressing me.

Your claim is you're not playing ignorant. If that in fact is true I feel more sorry for you than I did before.


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You obviously have no idea how this works. when you directly address a poster you respond to their post. when you're addressing the board you use "j/c". But of course you know this and are now pretending not to know it in same lame attempt to cover your ass. You claim I'm crying while you are playing ignorant.

I was directly addressing what you said, to the board in general. I wasn't directly addressing you.

And you expect people to actually believe that BS? Once again I think stand up comedy is a profession you should look into.

My ego can certainly handle the likes of you and your twisted up BS. The only one crying here is you in your desperation to try and pretend you were addressing this with the entire board while directly quoting and addressing me.

Your claim is you're not playing ignorant. If that in fact is true I feel more sorry for you than I did before.

Yes, I expect most people that frequent a message board to be able to read and come to their own conclusions. The things you roll on the floor laughing at aren't usually funny, so I'll refrain from taking your professional advice.

Your ego can definitely twist things up into BS. When one quotes the Constitution is one addressing the Constitution? One can and does address the words and ideas themselves. But, I understand that complex ideas and the idea that not everything is about you could be difficult for you to grasp.

I'm guessing that last line is really more about feeling sorry for yourself, since you apparently see everything as being about you. It's okay to cry, Pit. You don't need to try to deny it. Not everyone thinks and acts like you, though I do see that you seem to tend to project your behaviors onto other people rather than just seeing what's there. I think maybe you should look into some sort of therapy. I'm not sure laughter as medicine is working for you.

Maybe I should have a good cry and try to feel some more empathy towards you. You don't make empathy easy.


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And I bet you have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale as well. If anything you had posted in this thread were worth crying about you may have a point. Failure to take accountability for what you posted and trying to portray someone else as a victim is all the politically motivated BS someone needs to see in order to know it isn't so.

If therapy is on the horizon for either of us, that would be you. See, this is what it all oils down to and what you resort to when you have nothing legitimate to respond with.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And I bet you have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale as well. If anything you had posted in this thread were worth crying about you may have a point. Failure to take accountability for what you posted and trying to portray someone else as a victim is all the politically motivated BS someone needs to see in order to know it isn't so.

If therapy is on the horizon for either of us, that would be you. See, this is what it all oils down to and what you resort to when you have nothing legitimate to respond with.

There you go gambling on nonsense again. You've never needed a good reason to "cry" in the past, I'm not sure why you'd suddenly need one now. That line about "Failure...." appears to be some more of that projection.

I see a therapist. What of it? Some people try to better themselves and address their issues instead of pretending it's everyone else with the problem.

You should try it some time.


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If so it's not working thus far. Saying someone else is crying while you drown in your own tears is not attractive. As I stated before, when that's all you have left you have run out of ammunition.


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He is beyond therapy and everyone here knows it.


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Every right wing nut job thinks it. That's their only method of trying to silence and discredit people who say what they don't like being said. But I'm not surprised by that.


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If so it's not working thus far. Saying someone else is crying while you drown in your own tears is not attractive. As I stated before, when that's all you have left you have run out of ammunition.

It's a process.

You are being very unattractive, yes.

You definitely appear to be out of ammunition.


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Speaking of which. You claimed that what I stated about this election was propaganda. When i called you on it you avoided it like the plague. So since now it seems you are playing dodge ball rather than trying to have a discussion, let's try this again.......

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The lesser of the two evils is the reality in this case. I had no idea that stating reality is now known as propaganda. Tell me what about this is propaganda........

One of these two will be elected president. That leaves only two legitimate options to vote for that has any chance of becoming president. If I plan to vote for anyone that has any chance of becoming president I must choose the lesser of the two evils.

Anything to address that?


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Every right wing nut job thinks it. That's their only method of trying to silence and discredit people who say what they don't like being said. But I'm not surprised by that.

You are the Donald Trump of Dawgtalkers.


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I'm not the one who keeps making excuses for him and justifying why I will vote for him. STRIKE ONE!

Actually if I were more like Donald Trump I think you would like me more. naughtydevil


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Speaking of which. You claimed that what I stated about this election was propaganda. When i called you on it you avoided it like the plague. So since now it seems you are playing dodge ball rather than trying to have a discussion, let's try this again.......

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One of these two will be elected president. That leaves only two legitimate options to vote for that has any chance of becoming president. If I plan to vote for anyone that has any chance of becoming president I must choose the lesser of the two evils.

Anything to address that?

I claimed the framing of options in terms of the lesser of two evils is a propaganda technique. It is.

Both of those potential presidents could die tomorrow. There is no guarantee that only one of them (and no one else) can win. That's a faulty assumption. The ballots aren't written yet. It's a bit of a mass self-fulfilling prophecy situation. It happens because people erroneously believe it has to happen.

It sucks that you can't see that repeating the false narrative leads to the unwanted result. The political parties are "good" at propaganda and manipulation. Unfortunately, most people seem to have grown used to letting other people do their thinking for them.


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Every right wing nut job thinks it. That's their only method of trying to silence and discredit people who say what they don't like being said. But I'm not surprised by that.

You are the Donald Trump of Dawgtalkers.

I tend to think of him as Dojoe Bidump. All the worst qualities of each in a single package. angel


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There is no guarantee that only one of them (and no one else) can win. That's a faulty assumption. The ballots aren't written yet. It's a bit of a mass self-fulfilling prophecy situation. It happens because people erroneously believe it has to happen.

Name one other person that has qualified to be on the November ballots that have any actual chance of becoming president. There aren't any.

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It sucks that you can't see that repeating the false narrative leads to the unwanted result.

It sucks that the reality I pointed out is the reality.

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The political parties are "good" at propaganda and manipulation. Unfortunately, most people seem to have grown used to letting other people do their thinking for them.

Having a firm grasp on the only two people that have any chance of winning the presidency isn't propaganda. Propaganda is suggesting under the current constraints of our political system that someone else has a legitimate chance to win the presidency.

I don't like that this is how it is. I think the entire process needs to change so this is no longer our reality. But until such time trying to make claims to the contrary is a fantasy.

I don't like it any more than you do. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend it isn't true. That's not letting other people do my thinking for me. That's me disregarding some made up fantasy that simply doesn't exist at this point in time. Hopefully in the future that will change.


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Every right wing nut job thinks it. That's their only method of trying to silence and discredit people who say what they don't like being said. But I'm not surprised by that.

You are the Donald Trump of Dawgtalkers.

I tend to think of him as Dojoe Bidump. All the worst qualities of each in a single package. angel

Once again, this is the tactic the weak use to try to and devalue the people who disagree with them. It certainly won't work with me. I've seen that kind before. In my limited time on this planet the first prime example I can recall was Senator Joe McCarthy. It didn't end up working for him either.


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Every right wing nut job thinks it. That's their only method of trying to silence and discredit people who say what they don't like being said. But I'm not surprised by that.

You are the Donald Trump of Dawgtalkers.

I tend to think of him as Dojoe Bidump. All the worst qualities of each in a single package. angel

Once again, this is the tactic the weak use to try to and devalue the people who disagree with them. It certainly won't work with me. I've seen that kind before. In my limited time on this planet the first prime example I can recall was Senator Joe McCarthy. It didn't end up working for him either.

You may use it as a tactic. I'm just using it as a saddening statement of fact.


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You obviously have no concept of what a fact is. You claim someone other than biden or trump have a chance to win the presidency in 2024. Your invented fairy tales aren't facts.


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You obviously have no concept of what a fact is. You claim someone other than biden or trump have a chance to win the presidency in 2024. Your invented fairy tales aren't facts.

My tending to think of you as a Biden-Trump mashup dumpster fire is a fact. It's only a fact in that I think such a thing, yet, that is a fact nonetheless.

The person that states something in the future is certain claims that I don't know what facts are. notallthere


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Come on Eve. What do you have. Tell all about Felon don and how everything is rigged. How he is being persecuted and the DOJ is weaponized.

Hell just tape record fox for your answer. These are the indisputable facts:

The foundation of American Democracy is the peaceful transfer of power.

Trump failed his "Oath of Office."

The House of Representatives of the 117th U.S. Congress adopted one article of impeachment against Trump of "incitement of insurrection", stating that he had incited the January 6 attack of the U.S. Capitol. His second impeachment.

What former president owes millions of dollars for defamation and sexual assault? trump

A jury awarded $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll on Friday in a stinging and expensive rebuke to former President Donald Trump for his continued social media attacks against the longtime advice columnist over her claims that he sexually assaulted her in a Manhattan department store.

The award, coupled with a $5 million sexual assault and defamation verdict last year from another jury in a case brought by Carroll, raised to $88.3 million what Trump must pay her.

What former president was found liable for fraud?

Judge orders Donald Trump and his companies to pay $355 million. The judge found they engaged in a years-long scheme to dupe banks and others with financial statements that inflated his wealth.

On May 30, history was made as a New York jury found former President Donald J. Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. This marked the first time a former U.S. president has been criminally convicted.

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No matter what you say, or how you say it, or about whom. Character matters above all. Biden has character, Trump simply lacks it. If my choice is between two men that age, I'll take Biden every damn day.

Mother Teresa would probably be a lousy president, too.

Character definitely matters. Yet, it's not the only thing that matters.

Framing it as a choice between two men that age is, to me, a questionable way to look at it. "Should we be making choices between two men that age for that job?" seems a question with "No" as the easy answer.

Why in the world are we picking between these two? Yes, one can do it, and I can see Biden as the less bad (but still very bad) choice. But, why? A system that asks that question (Trump or Biden for president) is a broken/faulty/ridiculous/rigged/lousy (basically any antonym of good) system.

Let me try this again, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT OR ABOUT WHOM. CHARACTER MATTERS. I'm voting for Biden.


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NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT OR ABOUT WHOM. CHARACTER MATTERS. I'm voting for Biden.

Oh, the irony.


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Let me try this again, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT OR ABOUT WHOM. CHARACTER MATTERS. I'm voting for Biden.

...On today's episode of "Am I in a Cult?"....

(Yes, Daman, the answer is yes.)


I'm kidding.... Mostly. ....somewhat?.... Biden no matter what seems a bit cult-ish.


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The person that states something in the future is certain claims that I don't know what facts are. notallthere

You are either just a fire starter or have no idea of the reality of the time frame nor needed qualifications it even takes to get on the presidential ballot in most states. Living in some fantasy world is a you issue. Try staying within the bounds of reality for a change.


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NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT OR ABOUT WHOM. CHARACTER MATTERS. I'm voting for Biden.

Oh, the irony.

Oh the irony to your claim of irony. To even make some feeble attempt to compare the character of these two men in your own mind is astounding.


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Biden no matter what seems a bit cult-ish.

Are you sure you aren't practicing a stand up comedy routine?


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The person that states something in the future is certain claims that I don't know what facts are. notallthere

You are either just a fire starter or have no idea of the reality of the time frame nor needed qualifications it even takes to get on the presidential ballot in most states. Living in some fantasy world is a you issue. Try staying within the bounds of reality for a change.

If one stays within the bounds of "reality," one can never talk about the future.

It seems you and others are the sheeple living in a fantasy, unwilling to question what you are told. You live in the "constructed 'reality'" (artificial "fantasy") "society" has made for you. (I.e, "We have to pick between these two options")

I won't even try to get deeper into metaphysics with you. You seem to have enough trouble with much simpler concepts.

I'll gladly be a fire starter in the mode of Prometheus. Alas, some people seem to prefer to remain unenlightened. catfight


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Actually I've stated I would like to see the system change so this isn't true in the future. So that really holds no validity. But we're talking about the now. This was your comment about this election.

As Reagan would say, "You sir are no Prometheus."

Somehow your claim of metaphysics falls far short of that. Claiming someone other than Biden or trump stands a chance to win THIS election is a fairy tale which has nothing to do with some constructed reality. It is the reality. I'm sorry that you have created some other figment of your imagination in your own mind.


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