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It'd be a lot easier to have a discussion with you if you used words by their actual dictionary definition instead of by what you think they mean.

My saying something was taken out of context indicates that the context isn't there.

Your saying "Where did any poster say there was any actual context to it?" also indicates that the context wasn't there.

Now if you want to complain about the content of what he said, that would make a better argument.

Your using a word incorrectly but meaning something else doesn't make a good argument. You don't even realize how dumb some of the things you write "sound" because in your head with your self-prescribed (made up) definitions you mean something else than what the words you use actually mean. You also give other people's words made up meanings. It's.... Odd.

j/c:

RIP to the argument Trump and Biden are the same cognitively.

I think Trump is far more cognitive than Biden. No question at all. It's what he does with his cognition that scares me, though.

You already did that.

I was just thinking about that post.

I wonder if you will consider yourself, as a human being, an ameba if life ever causes you to have cognitive decline?

I hope making such disgusting statements makes you feel better about yourself. Be careful. One never knows what the future has in store for them.

Lighten up, Francis.

Okay Curly. You see, Biden kicked trump's ass in the 2020 debate. So the entire premise that he was an ameba the last time anyone voted for him is moronic. But moronic and nasty seems to be gotten your seal of approval here.

And hey, that's what trump says every time he says something crazy or nasty. He claims he was only joking. The difference is some idiots believe that BS and some don't.

Lighten up, Francis.

Sure curly. Is that all you got today? lmao

Good dig. Biden proved by his disastrous debate performance he should NOT be retained as President. Trump is a criminal and he's proud of it. He'd pardon the folks to caused millions of dollars of damage to Capital and cost lives. Plus he debases women constantly. As a retired military officer I can state with absolute certainty he couldn't be an officer in military- yet, in our government- he can be President----absolutely NUTS. The Democrats have to give us a different choice.

So you are saying you are OK with the number of lies... BIG LIES, trump told just at the debate?

Back in 2016 trump said, “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,”.

As crazy as it sounded back then, at this point in time I'm beginning to wonder if he wasn't right.

Gotta give the man his due, he knows his followers.

Just a thought, but the fact checkers telling you Trump lied are the same people that told you Biden was of sound mind with a steel trap for a mind. They lied to you about Biden's dementia but you continue to believe them?

And Biden can go on TV and sound like a turnip and some people would still vote for him.

But that isn't crazy cause "truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump mean orange man"

I agree. You never know. But at that point I won't know or care.

I recently went through this with my 98 year old mother-in-law. She passed away in late February. The last few years were hard but the last 9 months were terrible. She became mean and combative. Very delusional. She said many bad things to my wife and myself. I could shake it off for what it was, she wasn't my mother. I didn't love her, more co-existence but it sure messed with my wife, and for that it ticked me off. When her mother has her hands around my wife's throat saying she will kill her if she makes her move, that is a line far crossed and I put an end to that.

It was just a sad deal all the way around.

And for the record, I wasn't the one who started the amoeba talk so I don't consider my comment disgusting. Reality isn't always pretty.

I said he already did that.

How would you ever confuse my words with whatever it is you are saying?

OK, so you tell me, which of the lies they recorded weren't lies?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-biden-trump-presidential-debate/story?id=111500248

Did Biden inherit 9% inflation?

Recent Stories from ABC News

TRUMP CLAIM: "He also said he inherited 9% inflation -- no. He inherited almost no inflation, and it stayed ... stayed that way for 14 months, and it blew up under his leadership …"

FACT CHECK: This is mostly true. In January 2021, when Biden was inaugurated, year-over-year inflation was about 1.4%. Under Biden, year-over-year inflation peaked at 9.1 % in June 2022. But it is now down to 3.3 %. Under Trump, inflation rose 7.76 % from January 2017 to January 2021, and year-over-year inflation peaked at 2.9 % in July 2018.



Were there any military conflicts during Trump's term in office?

TRUMP CLAIM: "We got…a lot of credit for the military, and no wars and so many other things. Everything was rocking good."

FACT CHECK: Needs context. While it's true that Trump did not formally declare war against a foreign power while in the White House, he significantly scaled up military action in Syria and Iraq in the fight against ISIS and also authorized the air strike that killed Iranian General Qasem Soleimani, putting the country on the brink of a direct conflict with Iran. Pentagon records also show that at least 65 American troops were killed in action during Trump's term.



TRUMP CLAIM: "We have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world, considered the most dangerous place anywhere in the world, and he opened it up, and these killers are coming into our country, and they are raping and killing women."

FACT-CHECK: False. The reality is that no evidence points to a significant surge in crime caused by recent arrivals. The former president's claims ignore the fact that, overall, crime is down across the country. According to the latest FBI statistics released quarterly, violent crimes were down 6% in quarter 4 of 2023 (through Dec 2023) compared to the same time frame in 2022. There was a 13% decline in murders and a 4% drop in property crimes across the country. That declining trend followed unprecedented spikes in 2019 and 2020, Trump's last two years in office.



TRUMP CLAIM: "It's the same thing -- 51 intelligence agents said that the laptop was Russian disinformation. It wasn't that -- it came from his son, Hunter. It wasn't Russia."

FACT CHECK: True, but needs unpacking At the final presidential debate of the 2020 cycle, Joe Biden suggested the contents of his son's laptop's hard drive -- which by then had been dubbed the "laptop from hell" in the New York Post and other conservative outlets -- were "garbage" and a "Russian plant."

Biden's claim that the laptop hard drive was a "Russian plant" was an apparent reference to a letter signed by 51 retired intelligence officials who wrote that the timing of its emergence "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation."

Several of those signees have since said that Biden mischaracterized the language in their letter.

Furthermore, earlier this month, prosecutors at Hunter Biden's criminal trial in Delaware introduced the laptop into evidence and, in one of the more theatrical moments of the trial, showed jurors the physical MacBook Pro 13 that Hunter Biden purportedly abandoned at a Wilmington computer repair shop in April 2019.

"Ultimately, in examining that laptop, were investigators able to confirm that it was Hunter Biden's laptop?" prosecutor Derek Hines asked an FBI agent who testified as an expert witness in Hunter Biden's recent gun case.

"Yes," the FBI agent said.


Late-term abortions

TRUMP'S CLAIM: "The problem they have is they are radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month and even after birth."

FACT CHECK: This is not true. Abortions that occur later in pregnancy are around 1% of abortions, according to KFF. Democrats do not call for abortions late into pregnancies, and infanticide is illegal in the U.S. Democrats often respond that abortions that do happen in the third trimester are the result of tragic circumstances in a pregnancy.


TRUMP CLAIM: "[Biden] created mandates. That was a disaster for our country but other than that we had, we had given back a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-COVID, and nobody thought that was even possible.

FACT CHECK: Unclear. The Dow hit 30,000 for the first time on November 24, 2020. But that was after the last presidential election, so it's hard to say whether it was because of Trump's presidency or because of Biden's win.



Are more terrorists now crossing the border into America?

TRUMP CLAIM: "We have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now."

FACT CHECK: Largely exaggerated. Trump appears to be referring to the increasing number of migrants on the federal terror "watchlist" who are encountered at the border. The number of people encountered by border authorities on the watchlist jumped from three in Trump's last full year to nearly 100 in the first full fiscal year under Biden. However, the Terrorist Screening Dataset, maintained by the FBI, includes names of people who have suspected ties to individuals who may be affiliated with a foreign terror organization. It is not a comprehensive list of actual terrorists.


Paris Climate Accord

TRUMP CLAIM: "The Paris Accord was going to cost us a trillion dollars and China nothing and Russia nothing, and India nothing. It was a rip-off of the United States, and I ended it because I didn't want to waste that money because they treated us horribly."

FACT CHECK: Not entirely true. Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Accord on his first day in office, according to a State Department memo. One-hundred and ninety-six countries signed on to the Paris Accord, agreeing to work together to limit the impacts of climate change and global warming. As part of that, the more developed, wealthier nations committed to contributing $100 billion to support developing countries more vulnerable to climate change's impacts.

Biden pledged to work with Congress to authorize $11 billion to contribute to the Paris Agreement's $100 billion in funds to support developing countries who need help adapting to climate change's impacts. As of 2023, the U.S. was on track to meet that goal with $9.5 billion committed to financing global climate initiatives, according to the State Department.


National Guardsmen on Jan. 6

TRUMP CLAIM: "I offered her [House Speaker Nancy Pelosi] 10,000 soldiers who are National Guard. And she turned them down, and the mayor of - in writing, by the way, the mayor, in writing, turned it down. The mayor of D.C. They turned it down. I offered 10,000 because I could see I had virtually nothing to do. They asked me to go make a speech."

FACT-CHECK: False. The final report by the bipartisan Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol determined there was "no evidence" to support the claim that Trump gave an order "to have 10,000 troops ready for January 6th."

The report quoted President Trump's Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller, who directly refuted this claim under oath, saying, "There was no direct order from the President" to put 10,000 troops to be on the ready for January 6th.

Instead, the report noted that when Trump referenced that number of troops, it was not to protect the Capitol but that he had "floated the idea of having 10,000 National Guardsmen deployed to protect him and his supporters from any supposed threats by left-wing counter-protesters."



TRUMP CLAIM: "He [Putin] never would have invaded Ukraine, never, just like Israel would have never been invaded in a million years by Hamas. You know why? Because Iran was broke with me. I wouldn't let anybody do business with them. They ran out of money. They were broke. They had no money for Hamas. They had no money for anything, no money for terror. That's why you had no terror at all during my administration.”

FACT CHECK: Not true. Iran has been Hamas' principal backer for decades, including through the Trump presidency. Although Trump did withdraw from an Obama-era nuclear deal and levy sanctions against Tehran that dealt a sharp blow to its economy, records retrieved from inside Gaza by the Israeli Defense Forces and verified by independent news outlets indicate Iran still funneled tens of millions of dollars to Hamas during his administration. Two of Trump's top advisers for Middle Eastern affairs also claimed that Iran was supplying Hamas and other Palestinian terror groups with $100 million each year in an op-ed published in 2019.--Shannon Kingston

Trump's Manhattan hush-money case

TRUMP CLAIM: "That was a case that was started, and … they moved a high-ranking official, a DOJ, into the Manhattan DA's office to start that case. … [Biden] basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me."

FACT CHECK: There are a few things to unpack here – but there is no evidence to support either statement.

First, there is no evidence that Joe Biden, as president of the United States, directed or choreographed a state prosecution -- which was brought by the Manhattan District Attorney, Alvin Bragg. Biden has no authority to do so, and there is no evidence to support Trump's assertion.

Second, with regard to the "high-ranking" DOJ official who Trump claims was moved into the District Attorney's office to "start the case," Trump appears to be referring to Matthew Colangelo, who left the Justice Department in December of 2022, years after the investigation began. There is no evidence that Biden or the Justice Department coordinated Colangelo's move. The case was brought by Bragg, an elected Democrat in New York.

Trump was found guilty by a jury of his peers.



Were tax cuts under Trump the largest in history?

TRUMP CLAIM: "I gave you the largest tax cut in history. I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history, that's why we had all the jobs."

FACT-CHECK: False. According to Erica York at the Tax Foundation, the Trump-era tax cut (TCJA) was a large tax cut but not the largest in history. If you look at percent of revenue as share of GDP in the first two years, several tax cuts going back to 1940 were larger. The most recent that was larger was the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012.Separately, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that the tax cuts under President Ronald Reagan were the largest tax cuts in recent history as a percent of GDP.

At the time the law went into effect, the Tax Foundation estimated that it would boost long-term employment by more than 300,000 jobs. But Moody’s Chief Economist Mark Zandi says, "the tax cuts did support job growth, but at the cost of adding approximately $2 trillion to the nation’s debt." He added, “The regulatory changes had no measurable impact on job growth.”

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Trump lies constantly, and you buy into it.

Yup, you'd take a liar

Claiming one man isn't fit to be president because of cognitive decline while claiming the other man is fit for office after he's been convicted of 34 felony counts and liable of sexual assault isn't helping your argument.

Where did I claim "is fit for office after he's been convicted of 34 felony counts and liable of sexual assault "?

You are continue to just make stuff up so you can argue. Get help.

Yet I've only seen you claim one of them is unfit. Things that make you say hmmmmm....


I pointed out that you posted some bogus BS by refusing some of the real issues people won't vote for trump. Next time act like you at least recognize what he's done instead of trying to rationalize and minimize it by saying something stupid like, "truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump mean orange man"

Get help.

So I didn't say what you said I said? Exactly, you lied.

Spin it how you like, you lied. Deflect how you like, you lied. Trump lies, you lie.. interesting.

I know you love to tell yourself that. But even if it were true, trump is running for president. I'm not. But of course it seems that doesn't make any difference to you. Not that I'm surprised by that.

Cognitive decline is how we got here… if the OLD as dirt Faux News audience hadn’t got taken for a ride by their false prophet due to CD, we’d be good today.

So you don't deny lying? Good, we are at least getting somewhere.

Just get Kamala in there. She’ll have a couple months of being POTUS and be somewhat ready for the debates in September.

Biden is apparently gonna discuss the future with his fam, and I need Jill to be super honest with him.

English is hard for you isn't it? I'm sorry that "even if it were true" is beyond your comprehension.

English is not hard, at least for some of us. You didn't deny lying. You deflected, sure, it is a knee jerk reaction for you, but you never denied it.

I didn't defect anything other than to say it's you that have convinced yourself of that in your on mind.

You seem to be a little paranoid? Even a little like you feel you're under attack? It appears you're showing signs of trauma. Possibly a little PTSD. Maybe it would help if I told you that I'm not as focused and concerned about you as you seem to think. You are just like millions more just like you and I don't bother on focusing on a single yellow pencil in the box. Hopefully that helps.

It seems you have a need to change the subject of you being a liar. I quote what you said I said, which I did not say. That is lying. The fact you can't admit to being a liar does not change that you are nothing but a liar.

See, you remained fixated on your delusions. That's really not healthy.

Yes I am damn happy I did because trump lost in Georgia.

Of course he called Brad Raffensperger and asked him to find a way to steal Georgia.

But who cares about that it's only a democracy he doesn't want.

And there are millions of Americans who think that's just politics and is OK.....damn, make America great again-- basic truth has no worth. We got a President who can't finish a sentence and a former President who is a con man, liar, and want to be a dictator-----ain't we grand.

I’d vote for a rolled up pill bug, before even considering trump.

Actually it wasn't the media hiding it. It was his top aids. Which really isn't any better. But I guess if you like to use partisan Twitter posters as your source you get what you get....

Top aides shielded Biden from staff, but couldn't hide the debate

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/30/top-aides-shielded-biden-white-house-debate

You've got a 81-year old who acts/sounds like he's 105, and a 78-year old who acts like he's 6.