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Yada yada, I hear nada.

1. In the violent agitator video, Trump and the interviewer were talking about possible violence on election day

2. When Trump said that the military could be used to take care of violent agitators, He said” The military or National Guard can take care of them, because they can’t let that happen”.

3. Trump is not a non-binary gender person so the pronoun they cannot possibly be referring to him. They must be referring to Joe Biden and the Democrats.

4. This is also out by the fact that Trump will Have no power to use the military on election day

5. So if you insist that the enemy from within that Trump is talking about in the violent agitater video It’s talking about Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, et cetera

6. And if Biden is the only one that can use the military on election day, And Trump said that they need to do that because they can’t let that happen (You did not say I can’t let that happen or we can’t let that happen)

7. All this is accurate, then it follows that we must ask the question” Why would Biden send the military after Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff?

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If you can provide a rational answer to this argument, I make a promise that I will no longer post on Paul’s politics.

Even if you make a reasonable attempt that addresses the points I made.

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I've covered that already. Your excuse is that he didn't say "He would do it". But we all know how trump works. We know that's what he says he would do and should be done.

Should be done in what scenario and do what?

Use context clues to answer.

You certainly do have the magic trump decoder ring don’t you? Nobody else can walk Trump’s crap back without it. Including Fox News. Good work.

The challenge in the post above is open for you too.

It shouldn’t be hard to refute the argument f M a troll. You should be able to do it in one post and you’ll be rid of me. Go ahead, make my day

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It’s not a magic decoder ring. It Is simply the ability to read a text according to its context. Apparently schools have been too busy teaching Democrat propaganda to teach reading skills for a long time. Because the media is either dishonest or we are a nation of illiterates.

In the Reformation, seminary students used to debate New Testament in koine Greek. Now most don’t even read Greek. A similar thing has happened in secular education. Many kids don’t know how to do math without a calculator.

Yesterday, I heard a college chancellor say “… The problem is, they have made it too easy on people. They forgot that it is lifting things that make you strong. Applies to both Physical and Mental strength, He said

Maybe Biden was right when he talked about people being unable to look things up on the internet.

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Let’s play it this way. Flip a coin. heads I win, tails you loose.

You loose and so will trump.


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If Trump loses, Life goes on. And God is still on the throne.

If he wins, all the Democrat conspiracy theories will be falsified by reality. And God is still on the throne.

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
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Yada yada, I hear nada.

1. In the violent agitator video, Trump and the interviewer were talking about possible violence on election day

2. When Trump said that the military could be used to take care of violent agitators, He said” The military or National Guard can take care of them, because they can’t let that happen”.

3. Trump is not a non-binary gender person so the pronoun they cannot possibly be referring to him. They must be referring to Joe Biden and the Democrats.

4. This is also out by the fact that Trump will Have no power to use the military on election day

5. So if you insist that the enemy from within that Trump is talking about in the violent agitater video It’s talking about Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, et cetera

6. And if Biden is the only one that can use the military on election day, And Trump said that they need to do that because they can’t let that happen (You did not say I can’t let that happen or we can’t let that happen)

7. All this is accurate, then it follows that we must ask the question” Why would Biden send the military after Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff?

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If you can provide a rational answer to this argument, I make a promise that I will no longer post on Paul’s politics.

Even if you make a reasonable attempt that addresses the points I made.

Bump

If anyone can offer a rebuttal to this argument that addresses all points without changing the subject, I’ll ban myself till Dec 1.

Sorry about the typos. It’s my phones microphone’s fault.

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Trump says Liz Cheney should be 'shot in the face' by nine guns in sickening fantasy
Donald Trump has caused controversy by suggesting Liz Cheney should have 'guns trained on her face' in an alarming firing squad fantasy.
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Donald Trump concoted a sick fantasy about shooting Liz Cheney (Image: Getty)
Donald Trump has been slammed for saying Liz Cheney 'should be shot at by nine guns' in a sickening fantasy execution.

The 78-year-old, who is recovering from struggling to open a truck door and claimed the Dems want to get rid of "windows and cows," was speaking at a hurricane relief benefit event in Arizona when he made the vile remark.

Speaking to former Fox News host Tucker Carlson, Trump said the daughter of former Republican VP Dick Cheney should have "guns trained on her face" due to her support for Kamala Harris.



After calling the former senior Republican a "very dumb individual," Trump crossed the line by suggesting the "radical war hawk" should be put in a horrifying situation.

"Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her," said Trump. "Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face."


The audience were audibly very quiet, unaware of how to react, while Carlson stayed silent.

Disgusted viewers slammed Trump for his comments, with one tweeting: "He’s deranged. I truly hope Kamala ENDS him on Tuesday."

Another asked: "Can you imagine if you or I said this? We’d be getting a visit from the Secret Service or FBI."

While a third replied: "This is the most messed up thing perhaps said by any American politician ever. If this isn’t a red alert for newsrooms I don’t know what is."


Trump also began spreading unsubstantiated claims that the election is being stolen in Pennsylvania.

"We found a lot of things in the last three days," he said. "Found a lot of votes in a certain county in York county... Lancaster county.


"We found a lot of bad votes, 20,000 votes written by the same pen and signature. We found a lot of stuff."

He also started to attack his former political rival Hillary Clinton as well as Harris, who was hosting her own rally in Nevada with Jennifer Lopez.






Trump stated: "Hillary Clinton, who's a smart woman, much smarter than Kamala but doesn't lie as much.

"Hillary was a liar. A horrible scoundrel. But this one lies so much.


"She's a low IQ individual. She doesn't even know she's lying. She's a very low IQ individual. She's dumb as a rock"

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This is not AT ALL what he said. Another victim of guzzling down the headline.

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
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According to trump "they" are the "enemy within" which he included both Schiff and Pelosi to that list. Or did you conveniently miss that part?

Where did he say he would use the military against Schiff and Pelosi. I believe he was talking about voting people like them out of office (hopefully) if you check the context of that one.

Maybe you should find a transcript where the context is included.

I noticed that deceptive, derelict, devious, duplicitous, Democrats didn’t include the actual question that preceded the “violent agi-tater quote nor did they include the immediate context of the other one.

That’s calling “taking out of context”.

Nothing out of context here:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/10/21/trump-use-military-opponents/

Another article

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...emy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected

You can take context and shove it you know where...He said it, you just don't want it to be so.


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Yes, it’s kind of like something I saw and heard as a kid. Two kids on the block were fighting and one kicked the other where it hurts. The older sister of the kid who was kicked who was in the house and heard him crying, came out and said to the offender “how would you like it if I kicked you there?”

She didn’t do it, and showed no signs of intending to, it was like how would you feel. Show some empathy.

Trump was saying that Cheney needs to show some empathy for the people that, unlike her have to go to war and get shot at.

So now the other side is posting stuff that shows the media twisting words and ignoring intent of speaker.

That’s what postmodernism does. Ignore intended meaning and interpret it any way you want. 😀

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
If Trump loses, Life goes on. And God is still on the throne.

If he wins, all the Democrat conspiracy theories will be falsified by reality. And God is still on the throne.

Says the person that ignores Trumps dangerous rhetoric and lies and threats.



Those aren't conspiracies.,.. He's said it...I think he means it. You don't want to accept it and that is your right, but don't try to lie to the rest of us.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
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If Trump loses, Life goes on. And God is still on the throne.

If he wins, all the Democrat conspiracy theories will be falsified by reality. And God is still on the throne.

Says the person that ignores Trumps dangerous rhetoric and lies and threats.



Those aren't conspiracies.,.. He's said it...I think he means it. You don't want to accept it and that is your right, but don't try to lie to the rest of us.

He says things but the media ignores the context and omits the context to make it mean something he did not mean. That’s why they post quotes of answers to questions and exclude the question itself and post quotes without context.

At best, their claims are “needs context”. And worst, they’re outright lies.

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If Trump loses, Life goes on. And God is still on the throne.

If he wins, all the Democrat conspiracy theories will be falsified by reality. And God is still on the throne.

Says the person that ignores Trumps dangerous rhetoric and lies and threats.



Those aren't conspiracies.,.. He's said it...I think he means it. You don't want to accept it and that is your right, but don't try to lie to the rest of us.

He says things but the media ignores the context and omits the context to make it mean something he did not mean. That’s why they post quotes of answers to questions and exclude the question itself and post quotes without context.

At best, their claims are “needs context”. And worst, they’re outright lies.

Shove the context.,..,his words...


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You have failed to address anything I have asked in any of the threads you yourself started. And for some reason you seem to think I give a damn whether you post your twisted rhetoric on here or not. You're not that important. As it stands you're providing cheap entertainment. You've refused to answer any of my questions in any of those threads.

You claimed you would go through the fact check of the lies trump told in another thread. You never did. I provided a video showing several direct quotes he used of Hitler's. You decided to avoid that like the plague. The list goes on. Until you address my questions this little "answer my questions" game of yours is over.


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"She's a radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained to her face," Trump told supporters at a campaign event with former Fox News television host Tucker Carlson in Arizona.

Yeah, he never means what he says.


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Here is what he actually said.


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Are you still trying to make excuses for this idiot? You're actually trying to defend this?

“His daughter is a very dumb individual, very dumb. She’s a radical war hawk,” Trump said to some cheers.

Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her. Let’s see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face.”


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Yes, it’s kind of like something I saw and heard as a kid. Two kids on the block were fighting and one kicked the other where it hurts. The older sister of the kid who was kicked who was in the house and heard him crying, came out and said to the offender “how would you like it if I kicked you there?”

She didn’t do it, and showed no signs of intending to, it was like how would you feel. Show some empathy.

Trump was saying that Cheney needs to show some empathy for the people that, unlike her have to go to war and get shot at.

So now the other side is posting stuff that shows the media twisting words and ignoring intent of speaker.

That’s what postmodernism does. Ignore intended meaning and interpret it any way you want. 😀

Please show me the transcript where this was said verbatim.


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Here's some verbatim..... "Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her." Let’s see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

Somehow they claim that's not what he said. Same as it ever was....


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And for anyone trying to make the false claim that trump doesn't advocate the use of the military against his political enemies there's this to add to the pile...................

Trump amplifies posts calling for televised military tribunal for Liz Cheney

Former President Donald Trump amplified posts on social media calling for a televised military tribunal for former Republican Rep. Liz Cheney and the jailing of top elected officials, including President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.

“ELIZABETH LYNNE CHENEY IS GUILTY OF TREASON,” one post created by another user that Trump amplified on his social media website Truth Social on Sunday reads. “RETRUTH IF YOU WANT TELEVISED MILITARY TRIBUNALS.”

Cheney responded on X, “Donald - This is the type of thing that demonstrates yet again that you are not a stable adult—and are not fit for office.”

A separate post Trump amplified on Truth Social Sunday includes photos of 15 former and current elected officials and says, “THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO JAIL ON MONDAY NOT STEVE BANNON!”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/trump-liz-cheney-military-tribunal/index.html

Much more of the story at at the link....


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Cheney responded on X, “Donald - This is the type of thing that demonstrates yet again that you are not a stable adult—and are not fit for office.”

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I think I'd probably vote for Liz Cheney over both Harris and Trump....

I'd like to know what 'Trump amplified' actually means ... is that a like, is it a repost? What does it actually mean?


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He reposted it on his Truth Social account so all of his millions of followers would see it. I don't see how anyone could argue that you don't repost something you agree with but there will be people who will make that feeble argument.



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And for anyone trying to make the false claim that trump doesn't advocate the use of the military against his political enemies there's this to add to the pile...................

Trump amplifies posts calling for televised military tribunal for Liz Cheney

Former President Donald Trump amplified posts on social media calling for a televised military tribunal for former Republican Rep. Liz Cheney and the jailing of top elected officials, including President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.

“ELIZABETH LYNNE CHENEY IS GUILTY OF TREASON,” one post created by another user that Trump amplified on his social media website Truth Social on Sunday reads. “RETRUTH IF YOU WANT TELEVISED MILITARY TRIBUNALS.”

Cheney responded on X, “Donald - This is the type of thing that demonstrates yet again that you are not a stable adult—and are not fit for office.”

A separate post Trump amplified on Truth Social Sunday includes photos of 15 former and current elected officials and says, “THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO JAIL ON MONDAY NOT STEVE BANNON!”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/trump-liz-cheney-military-tribunal/index.html

Much more of the story at at the link....

He said Hillary belonged in jail too. Nothingburger.

Trust me, you don’t have to worry about what Kamala “scare us” has to say. Unless someone in the DNC committed a crime, which wouldn’t surprise me.

They did manipulate and deceptively edit documents and videos at the second impeachment. If they can do that, nothing would surprise me.


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So you have nothing to rebut what he said. You have nothing but to point the finger elsewhere for him calling for Cheney to be shot by a firing squad in a different direction. It's hard to refute the words that actually came out of his own mouth even though you have done so repeatedly. So nothing about the actual topic then? So now it's the democrats fault for what he said? Typical trumpian response.


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This is now what the Republican party has been turned into.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
So you have nothing to rebut what he said. You have nothing but to point the finger elsewhere for him calling for Cheney to be shot by a firing squad in a different direction. It's hard to refute the words that actually came out of his own mouth even though you have done so repeatedly. So nothing about the actual topic then? So now it's the democrats fault for what he said? Typical trumpian response.

I already replied about this. It sounds to me like a form of “how would you like it if…”

In other words, you want to be a warmonger and send our children to war, maybe you should know what it feels like.

Not like he’s literally do it.

I bet you take hyperbole literally.

Kamala “scare us” is a fear mongering, boogey man fabricating silly.

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This is now what the Republican party has been turned into.

Have you read or listened the quote in context?

I tried to look up the manuscript of the full exchange on Google and couldn’t find a page that had the full transcript and full context.

That suggests that they’re deceptively editing again.

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I think you make it up as you go along when you claim trump uses hyperbole to excuse what he's saying. As much of a feeble attempt you try and make, you can't cover his ass on this one. Only fools will believe that BS.


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Yes I have. What he said was obvious to anyone that doesn't continually kiss his ass.


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Yes I have. What he said was obvious to anyone that doesn't continually kiss his ass is not a complete and utter troll.
Fixed it for you.

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I think both of our comments apply here.


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Yes, it’s kind of like something I saw and heard as a kid. Two kids on the block were fighting and one kicked the other where it hurts. The older sister of the kid who was kicked who was in the house and heard him crying, came out and said to the offender “how would you like it if I kicked you there?”

She didn’t do it, and showed no signs of intending to, it was like how would you feel. Show some empathy.

Trump was saying that Cheney needs to show some empathy for the people that, unlike her have to go to war and get shot at.

So now the other side is posting stuff that shows the media twisting words and ignoring intent of speaker.

That’s what postmodernism does. Ignore intended meaning and interpret it any way you want. 😀

Please show me the transcript where this was said verbatim.

It's not worth it. I will spend time in earnest debate with some on this board, but the method and gaslighting of his posts offend the mere notion of common sense. Ain't even worth trying.


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The AZ state attorney general today announced that they are having their criminal division investigate whether charges should be filed on trump for making death threats

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Ok, I get it, "Don the Con" did not say that he wanted to have Liz Cheney face a firing squad for supporting Harris.

But it is somehow OK for "Don the Con" to say he wants her to stand in front of a firing squad for being a "war hawk".

Plausible deniability.

Pretzel Logic.

Do you really believe that "Don the Con" thinks that someone being a neo-con should be subjected to a firing squad?

And that Trump would have made the same comments about Liz if she had not had enough of this trash individual?

Laughable. John Bolton is pondering this as well.

How many times, How many times... How much is too much... Silly of me to think the escalator speech in 2015 was the end of this turd.

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Did they include the context? rofl


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Read or listen to the context, that the media doesn’t provide. 🤣

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Absolute insanity.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie


Absolute insanity.

The DNC is a tower of lies

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