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Ditto. Don't see what they are hanging the hype on meself. Looks like an average 2 to me. Over the dumb Coach Prime junk and don't want it here. Last thing this drama factory needs more of. Hard pass for me.

If we can trade down and get some extra picks I would take a shot at Milroe, Beck or Allar from Penn State. They would be worth a late 2nd or 3rd. Just as long as we let them sit and learn and not throw them into the fire.

And for those reasons, all the experts said they were both going to be "projects", take a few years, and needed to sit behind bridge quarterbacks. We all see how that worked out.

I used to feel the same way about drafting QB's. The fact that a QB went to a small school was something that concerned me. I mean they've never faced top tier talent so how much have they really been tested? I factored that in quite heavily. I found out that shouldn't really be a part of the evaluation process. It still sounds right that it should be a big factor and makes sense. But that doesn't always lead you to the correct answer.

I didn't know about Allar. He could be a guy to watch next year. My opinions about QB's are just that. My opinions and evaluations have been wrong in the past but then again so have many of the experts.

bone, would you consider bringing in Fields next season and seeing if he can still develop into a FQB?

based on the truth/likelihood there are only band aids, and based on the fact that Watson will be on the roster next season, would you be upset if we ended up drafting Sanders if we have a top 3 pick?

There's a time and a place -- I think when you see clear "warts", then factoring in competition level becomes an exclamation point on the deficiencies. It should never be anything more than supporting evidence unless it creates a situation where you have no "good film".

I was all-in on Allen. I watched all of his worst games in their entirety. I watch the games against solid competition. One of the first narratives that dispelled was "going through progressions", he did that as well as anyone but Mayfield and Rosen. The talking heads said he couldn't and the "speed of the game" would bite him. He actually did that faster than the rest, just didn't always make the right decision.

Then we fall in love with cliches... "if you're not accurate in college, you won't magically get better in the NFL". Well, Allen definitely pulled the rabbit out of the hat on that one.

As I said at the time though, and truly believe: it didn't even matter -- I will trade 2.3 bad passes per game for someone with all those tools, the strongest arm in the game, can throw to all parts of the field, can throw with finesse, and runs like Gronk in the open field.

Biggest failure in the history of this franchise.

Hopefully, the Browns don't blow it again. I have been and am still all in on Cam Ward. Assuming he is there when the Browns pick.

Zero star recruit. Started at Incarnate Word. Transferred to Washington State and then to Miami and just set the NCAA Div. 1 career passing TD record.

Bonus: His first name is Earl.

you really think he can be that dude? and paired with Stefanski?

Absolutely. Cam Ward can play from the pocket, make plays out of structure and has athleticism.

Just look at this poise in the pocket.

Why did Miami QB Cam Ward only play one half in Pop-Tarts Bowl? Mario Cristobal opts to keep decision private
By John Talty

Miami coach Mario Cristobal was short on specifics on why Heisman Trophy finalist Cam Ward only played the first half of a Pop-Tarts Bowl loss to Iowa State.

Ward had a big first half for the Hurricanes, throwing for 190 yards and three touchdowns for a slim 31-28 halftime lead. After Ward threw a 4-yard touchdown to Jacolby George late in the first quarter, he passed former Houston quarterback Case Keenum for most passing touchdowns (156) in Division I history. He finished his collegiate career -- which included stops at Incarnate Word and Washington State before Miami -- with 158 passing touchdowns.

Ward never returned in the second half, however, including when Miami was down one point with 51 seconds remaining in the game and a chance to lead a game-winning drive. Iowa State won the game 42-41.

Cristobal declined to explain after the game why Ward only played for a half.

"I think all meetings with players and decisions like that, we make them in private, and we keep them in private," Cristobal said. "So I'll prefer not to answer questions as it relates to that. I know he played his best while he was in there."

It was a big deal that Ward played in the game at all; players of his caliber have opted out of non-College Football Playoff games in recent years. A day before Saturday's Pop-Tarts Bowl, Cristobal praised Ward's decision.

"Nowadays in college football, we are compensated at all levels, right? Coaches, players, administrators -- to do a job," Cristobal said. "And you must finish the job. I think Cam's DNA, his upbringing, everything he's made of and stands for is the right kind of stuff. The stuff you want your team made of."

Ward is expected to be a first-round pick in next year's NFL Draft. He finished his lone season at Miami with 4,313 passing yards, 39 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He finished fourth in Heisman Trophy voting behind Colorado's Travis Hunter (the winner), Boise State's Ashton Jeanty and Oregon's Dillon Gabriel.


https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...cristobal-opts-to-keep-decision-private/

If he were to sit out the whole game so his team knew in advance I would be okay with it.

I don't know for sure, but it feels like the plan was for Nabors to play untill he got the record.

This feels like he just gave up and quit on the team mid game
That doesn't sit right with me

And maybe he doesn't drop, not even one spot, because of this
But that is one reason why NFL teams have such a high miss rate in the draft.

So just like Cam Ward.

https://www.drafttek.com/2025-NFL-Draft-Team-Pages/Browns-Draft-Page.asp

Also keep an eye on Bryce Lance, NDSU, WR, 6’3” 205lb … Kyle McCord, Syracuse, QB, 6’3” 220lb

Seems like he played an additional quarter after breaking the record.
It could be interpretation but by the way it was reported , the HC didn't seem too happy about it.
Maybe it is nothing, but I would definitely like more information before the draft (if I was considering picking him)

If I am correct, currently the Browns are in the #3 spot, the Giants at #4....

So...

New England hosts Buffalo... who has the #2 seed locked up and has every reason to rest players (and at least a small sense of pride in "denying" NE the #1 pick).

Tennessee hosts the Texans... who have the #4 seed locked and nothing to gain, however, reps and momentum are probably more important than rest at 9-7.

NY Giants SOS will remain higher than the Browns since they play the Eagles, so we can't fall below them if tied.


Meanwhile, the Ravens may drop one or two seeds and lose hope of hosting a playoff game if they lose to the Browns.


Prediction: Browns will pick #2 in the 2025 NFL Draft.

Well, they might land at the #2 pick. I'm not sure they'd pick there.

Walter Nolen III, DT, Ole Miss looks pretty good to me. I'm not sure I'd pick him at 2, but he's one of the few players that really stood out while watching cutups. Teams were triple teaming him at times.

Yep, thanks. They will land there. I'm not sure they won't trade down a bit if the situation is right and it can yield a 1st round pick in 2026. In fact, I'm mostly sure they would.

I'll check out Nolen. Throw us some other prospects in that top ten range that fit. I trust your draft insight more than most so called experts.

If they do pick at 2 I pray they don’t take sanders. I mean, my god, wouldn’t that be the most Browns move ever? And then…. Oh the Drama. Almost guaranteed disaster. Before he ever took a snap it’d be a disaster. But it’s just the kind of awkward fit, big personality, questionable talent move the browns are famous for. The script almost writes itself.

If we do pick in the top 3, I'd like to trade down 2 or 3 spots and select Mason Graham, DT. I've been high on OT Will Campbell, but I've heard concerns about his arm length. Have to wait until March I guess....

I still don't like most of the QBs in this draft. However, I am warming to the idea of Cam Ward. His throwing motion is a little unconventional, foot work isn't technically sound at all. Though, I feel he's in control when throwing the ball. He does show good accuracy when he's in the pocket and when he's had to move around/scramble.


At this point, if he's there I would be fine with drafting him. I would be fine if we went another route (different position) too.

Yep, once we hit 1-6 i felt the same. After that, was just looking forward to the losing. Either make the playoffs or be around .500 with an expectation growth or lose them all. Once we were out of it, it was just watching for positives from certain areas (i.e. seeing if the young players are improving, positions needing changes, and etc).

Ward or Travis Hunter

if we're willing to sell the farm for someone like Watson, then drafting a guy like Milroe without giving up any resources should be a no=brainer, especially if we're trying to move on from Watson. We cant go into next season with the same toxic energy around the team like this season.

You are 100% correct. Many in college haven't even played a down of their bowl game for fear of being hurt after thay commit to the draft yet he played a full half. It's a non issue that people try to create an issue out of.