This entire Elon DOGE crap fest is a soft coup and our REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is acting like a bunch of cucks. This admin seems like they think they RULE us instead of SERVE us as REPs. People gave them their positions, people can take it away. I believe MOST of what has already happened is ILLEGAL AF.
This entire Elon DOGE crap fest is a soft coup and our REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is acting like a bunch of cucks. This admin seems like they think they RULE us instead of SERVE us as REPs. People gave them their positions, people can take it away. I believe MOST of what has already happened is ILLEGAL AF.
No. This is called working for us and our best interest instead of the special interest.
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
This entire Elon DOGE crap fest is a soft coup and our REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is acting like a bunch of cucks. This admin seems like they think they RULE us instead of SERVE us as REPs. People gave them their positions, people can take it away. I believe MOST of what has already happened is ILLEGAL AF.
No. This is called working for us and our best interest instead of the special interest.
Everything and I mean everything about Trump is to satisfy Special Interest. White surpremisists, Neo Nazis, KKK, religious groups etc...
Who does an action like stopping healthcare for pregnant teens help?
Who does only dealing with Infrustructure to locales that have high birth rates help? Tell me that aren't catering to the religious groups that want to stop abortion at all costs.
When you make a comment like they are working for us, you better learn to define "US" a whole lot better
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
This entire Elon DOGE crap fest is a soft coup and our REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is acting like a bunch of cucks. This admin seems like they think they RULE us instead of SERVE us as REPs. People gave them their positions, people can take it away. I believe MOST of what has already happened is ILLEGAL AF.
No. This is called working for us and our best interest instead of the special interest.
A special interest group is taking over governmental functions and your belief is that it’s to protect the government from special interests.
We’re doomed.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
This entire Elon DOGE crap fest is a soft coup and our REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is acting like a bunch of cucks. This admin seems like they think they RULE us instead of SERVE us as REPs. People gave them their positions, people can take it away. I believe MOST of what has already happened is ILLEGAL AF.
No. This is called working for us and our best interest instead of the special interest.
Everything and I mean everything about Trump is to satisfy Special Interest. White surpremisists, Neo Nazis, KKK, religious groups etc...
Who does an action like stopping healthcare for pregnant teens help?
Who does only dealing with Infrustructure to locales that have high birth rates help? Tell me that aren't catering to the religious groups that want to stop abortion at all costs.
When you make a comment like they are working for us, you better learn to define "US" a whole lot better
Do us all a favor and go hide in a bunker. Although, if it's just you, you'll lower the average IQ between you and the bunker.
But are you really cool with an unelected billionaire with more conflicts of interest than Pit v Fate slap-fights gaining access to federal payment systems?
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
All I can say is when we look to trim the fat, the pigs squeal.
So when a lot of fat needs to be trimmed, the logical thing is to nuke the whole farm... right?
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
'Infinite Nightmares at Once': Veterans Data Swept Up in Musk's Takeover of Treasury System
Republican presidential nominee former President Donald Trump, left, claps as Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk prepares to depart after speaking at a campaign event at the Butler Farm Show, on Oct. 5, 2024, in Butler, Pa. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File) Military.com | By Rebecca Kheel Published February 04, 2025 at 5:59pm ET
Sensitive veterans data, including information about Department of Veterans Affairs benefits, are among the Treasury Department records Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency now has access to amid his quest to unilaterally cut government spending and personnel.
Over the weekend, Musk and his team gained access to the system that the Treasury Department uses to make all U.S. government payments. The system includes taxpayer data, such as Social Security numbers, for nearly every American, which naturally includes scores of veterans. On top of that, information about VA disability and retirement benefits, Medicare and Medicaid payments and any other government benefits veterans might receive would be swept up in the system.
"Anyone who's receiving payments from the federal government, first and foremost, is likely to be concerned that payments that they are obliged to receive might not show up, either intentionally because they're getting blocked for some reason that's not explained, or even unintentionally, because they're giving admin access to a critical piece of our federal infrastructure to random coders off the street, which violates like every principle of cybersecurity and administration of these systems that exists," said Alan Butler, executive director and president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a nonprofit privacy advocacy group.
The top Democrat on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee also sounded the alarm Monday specifically about the risk to veterans.
"With this takeover, Musk can now access veterans' personal data -- from where they live, to their bank account info, and the amount of their earned VA benefits," Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said in a statement. "Veterans risked their lives to defend this country, and they deserve more than to have unaccountable billionaires playing with the benefits they earned and rely on."
The Treasury Department did not respond to Military.com's request for comment Tuesday on concerns about veterans' data being exposed to Musk and his team.
Musk, the world's richest man whose companies SpaceX and Tesla have earned billions of dollars from government contracts, was appointed by Trump to lead what was dubbed the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, to take a sledgehammer to government spending.
Despite the name, DOGE is not actually a federal department. Rather, Trump signed an executive order on his first day in office that rebranded an existing White House office that was called the U.S. Digital Service into DOGE, which is also the name of a cryptocurrency that Musk has boosted in the past.
DOGE, which Wired reported is staffed by 19- to 24-year-olds with previous connections to Musk's companies, sought and gained access to the Treasury system after the White House's effort to freeze wide swaths of government funding was blocked by court orders and elicited widespread public panic and outrage.
By Musk's own description, the goal of gaining access to the Treasury system is to stop some payments from going out.
"Obviously, DOGE is trying to stop your tax dollars from being stolen for waste and fraud," Musk posted Tuesday on the social media platform he owns, X, in response to Democratic criticism of him gaining access to the Treasury payment system.
On Monday, the White House told The New York Times that Musk's team's access to the system is "read only," meaning they cannot make changes or stop payments themselves.
Even if that is true, Butler said, the access to the system is still concerning.
"That is still a massive invasion of privacy, first of all, and still imposes significant ongoing risks," Butler said. "Because 'read' includes the ability to exfiltrate data. ... All of this just exponentially increases the odds that this data gets breached, that people's private information is breached, that national security is breached. Infinite nightmares at once."
Two federal employees unions and an advocacy group called the Alliance for Retired Americans sued the Treasury Department on Monday over Musk's access to the payment system. The lawsuit notes that veterans benefits, Social Security payments and tax refunds are handled on the system and argues that the move to give Musk and DOGE access violates federal privacy laws.
Democrats have also cited the risk to veterans as they agitate to block Musk's access.
In addition to his statement Monday, Blumenthal sent VA Secretary Doug Collins a letter Tuesday, immediately after the Senate voted to confirm Collins to the job, outlining what he would like to see from Collins at the beginning of his tenure.
Among Blumenthal's demands, he called for Collins to "restrict, block, or remove Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) employee access to all VA data systems and records, including those holding veterans' private health, benefits and related financial information, and VA employee personnel files."
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, both Democrats of New York, also said Tuesday they were introducing a bill to "prevent unlawful meddling in the Treasury Department's payment systems." They are calling the bill "Stop the Steal," a winking name that references Trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election.
"They are raiding the government and attempting to steal taxpayer money," Jeffries said at a news conference Tuesday. "That's what the situation at the Treasury Department is all about."
He said the legislation would block "people who are trying to steal personal, sensitive and confidential information related to Social Security recipients, Medicare recipients, taxpayers, businesses, not-for-profits, veterans and everyday Americans."
whats with all the right wing hate for Indians? I swear to God, conservatives just find reasons to beef with anyone. it's like they can't exist without having a reason to trash other people.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Then there's the other one. "Big Balls".............
Who is 'Big Balls'? Teen DOGE Engineer Edward Coristine
A 19-year-old with a concerning "hacker" background known online as "Big Balls" is working as part of Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
One former FBI agent has said he would not have recommended Edward Coristine for government work, knowing his work experience to date.
Newsweek contacted Elon Musk via Twitter for comment on how Coristine was appointed to his position.
Why It Matters
Coristine's recruitment to Musk's team, which was commissioned by President Donald Trump to recommend ways to cut down on government spending, symbolizes the new administration's unconventional approach to government reform.
DOGE has quickly become one of the most important additions to President Donald Trump's new administration, with Musk's advice being the driving force behind the USAID shutdown. It represents Trump's election promises to cut back on federal spending and the "deep state."
What To Know
Previously, it was reported that DOGE staff had received equivalent training and security clearance to federal employees who work with sensitive information. However, The White House has not confirmed if Coristine has received these clearances.
Coristine, a high school graduate with a history of launching startups, has founded at least five companies across multiple jurisdictions, including Connecticut, Delaware, and the United Kingdom.
However, many of these ventures were absent from his now-deleted LinkedIn profile. In 2022, he worked briefly for Path Network, a network monitoring company known for hiring former hackers, according to Wired. That same year, an individual using a Telegram alias linked to Coristine reportedly sought out a cyberattack-for-hire service.
One of Coristine's ventures, Tesla.Sexy LLC, registered when he was just 16, manages dozens of web domains, including Russian-registered sites. One of these, still operational, offers Helfie, an AI-powered Discord bot operating in Russia, which could present security clearance challenges, per Wired.
Coristine worked at Neuralink, another Musk-run enterprise, before joining DOGE, where he has reportedly participated in meetings reviewing government personnel and code.
DOGE, which was mandated by the election result, has already been responsible for some of the biggest changes to the U.S. government in years, calling for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to be dismantled and its services moved to the State Department. It claims to have saved $1 billion a day in spending based on budget cuts alone.
However, the organization is solely advisory, and is not a full part of the federal government. All recommendations it makes must be approved by President Trump or his cabinet.
What People Are Saying
Elon Musk said on social media in response to Coristine being identified: "Can't believe they doxxed another DOGE team member …"
Former FBI agent EJ Hilbert told Wired on Thursday: "If I was doing the background investigation on him, I would probably have recommended against hiring him for the work he's doing. I'm not opposed to the idea of cleaning up the government. But I am questioning the people that are doing it."
What Happens Next
DOGE continues to make sweeping changes in the federal government, with Musk spearheading cuts to USAID and DEI practices.
This entire Elon DOGE crap fest is a soft coup and our REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is acting like a bunch of cucks. This admin seems like they think they RULE us instead of SERVE us as REPs. People gave them their positions, people can take it away. I believe MOST of what has already happened is ILLEGAL AF.
No. This is called working for us and our best interest instead of the special interest.
Laughing my ass off at you! Who hired them? Not us. If you think they’re working for US, you’ve lost your mind. Time will tell, but I’d glady wager on US getting screwed again, while the rich get tax breaks. But it’s cute that you still think Trump care about YOU.
This entire Elon DOGE crap fest is a soft coup and our REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is acting like a bunch of cucks. This admin seems like they think they RULE us instead of SERVE us as REPs. People gave them their positions, people can take it away. I believe MOST of what has already happened is ILLEGAL AF.
No. This is called working for us and our best interest instead of the special interest.
Everything and I mean everything about Trump is to satisfy Special Interest. White surpremisists, Neo Nazis, KKK, religious groups etc...
Who does an action like stopping healthcare for pregnant teens help?
Who does only dealing with Infrustructure to locales that have high birth rates help? Tell me that aren't catering to the religious groups that want to stop abortion at all costs.
When you make a comment like they are working for us, you better learn to define "US" a whole lot better
Do us all a favor and go hide in a bunker. Although, if it's just you, you'll lower the average IQ between you and the bunker.
And if they cut a 1/4 inch off YOUR “IQ” it’d be a scab on your ass.
All I can say is when we look to trim the fat, the pigs squeal.
You know that pigs are used to identify the greedy in that saying, right? Probably not, since you embrace greed. Lesson for today, careful what you wish for because you might just get it. Oink oink.
I wonder if MAGA can do the simple math; Trump wants to end the FDIC, CIA, FBI, and tank the markets while having Elons hooks into the government digital transfer system… Sounds a lot like a heist with plans to take it all.
I like the fact that DOGE is exposing the money being taken from taxpayers. We are just throwing away money.
Dems are up in arms because USaid has been their money laundering mechanism for who knows how long. Like I said, when you trim fat, the pigs squeal.
It's going to be interesting over the next few months to see the corruption as it is exposed. The squealing is music to my ears. It's about time we actually looked in to this sheet.
Squeal away..lol
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Dems are up in arms because USaid has been their money laundering mechanism for who knows how long.
You really do believe everything you get fed by the right wing media, don't you? Never mind that the agency's been going since 1961 and I'd place an enormously large wager that most of the same payments that people are squealing about were going on under Trump. And Bush. But you read a few titillizing headline and you fall for it completely, blind to the bigger picture.
I've absolutely zero doubt that you completely believe that $50 million was allocated to condoms for Gaza. You and Memphis alike. Gobble gobble gobble gobble gobble.
As The Doobie Brothers song goes, "What a Fool Believes."
And that foolishness will starve children all around the globe. It will will cut off medicine for dying children around the globe. Sometimes witnessing foolishness can be entertaining. This isn't one of those times.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I like the fact that DOGE is exposing the money being taken from taxpayers.
Nobody is exposing anything, everything is a secret. People are being randomly fired with the help of young geeks with some racism sprinkled on top for good measure.
I like the fact that DOGE is exposing the money being taken from taxpayers. We are just throwing away money.
Dems are up in arms because USaid has been their money laundering mechanism for who knows how long. Like I said, when you trim fat, the pigs squeal.
It's going to be interesting over the next few months to see the corruption as it is exposed. The squealing is music to my ears. It's about time we actually looked in to this sheet.
Squeal away..lol
WOW,,,, Read and weep... Trump and Musk have been pushing lies about USAID.. I'm convinced they will be uncovered as time goes by. Here is a salvo.
I like the fact that DOGE is exposing the money being taken from taxpayers.
Nobody is exposing anything, everything is a secret. People are being randomly fired with the help of young geeks with some racism sprinkled on top for good measure.
I like the fact that DOGE is exposing the money being taken from taxpayers.
Nobody is exposing anything, everything is a secret. People are being randomly fired with the help of young geeks with some racism sprinkled on top for good measure.
This guy is only 24 years old these are not statements he made decades ago. These are current beliefs.
racism isn't a deal breaker anymore. i mean, it was already questionable, but it doesn't matter now. did you See Vance defend the tweets despite being married to an Indian woman? pathetic
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Federal judge blocks DOGE from accessing sensitive U.S. Treasury Department material Updated February 8, 20252:01 AM ET By
The Associated Press
Alex Brandon/AP A federal judge early Saturday blocked Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency from accessing Treasury Department records that contain sensitive personal data such as Social Security and bank account numbers for millions of Americans.
Elon Musk at the inauguration of President Trump on Jan. 20 in Washington, D.C. Trump tasked Musk with dramatically slashing government via the Department of Government Efficiency team. Its work has been secretive and controversial and has created chaos throughout the federal workforce. Politics Who is part of Elon Musk's DOGE and what are they doing? U.S. District Judge Paul A. Engelmayer issued the preliminary injunction after 19 Democratic attorneys general sued President Donald Trump. The case, filed in federal court in New York City, alleges the Trump administration allowed Musk's team access to the Treasury Department's central payment system in violation of federal law.
The payment system handles tax refunds, Social Security benefits, veterans' benefits and much more, sending out trillions of dollars every year while containing an expansive network of Americans' personal and financial data.
Engelmayer, who was appointed by President Barack Obama, also said anyone prohibited from having access to the sensitive information since Jan. 20 must immediately destroy all copies of material downloaded from Treasury Department systems.
He set a hearing for Feb. 14.
The White House previously did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the lawsuit being filed.
Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, also known as DOGE, was created to discover and eliminate what the Trump administration has deemed to be wasteful government spending. DOGE's access to Treasury records, as well as its inspection of various government agencies, has ignited widespread concern among critics over the increasing power of Musk, while supporters have cheered at the idea of reining in bloated government finances.
Musk has made fun of criticism of DOGE on his X social media platform while saying it is saving taxpayers millions of dollars.
New York Attorney General Letitia James, whose office filed the lawsuit, said DOGE's access to the Treasury Department's data raises security problems and the possibility for an illegal freeze in federal funds.
WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 9: U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's nominee to be US Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent, founder and chief executive officer of Key Square Group LP, walks to a meeting on Capitol Hill on January 9, 2025 in Washington, DC. Trump's nominees for his incoming administration continue to meet with senators on Capitol Hill, weeks before his inauguration. (Photo by Jon Cherry/Getty Images) News Musk's team takes control of key systems at Consumer Financial Protection Bureau "This unelected group, led by the world's richest man, is not authorized to have this information, and they explicitly sought this unauthorized access to illegally block payments that millions of Americans rely on, payments for health care, child care and other essential programs," James said in a video message released by her office Friday.
James, a Democrat who has been one of Trump's chief antagonists, said the president does not have the power to give away American's private information to anyone he chooses, and he cannot cut federal payments approved by Congress.
Also on the lawsuit are Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Wisconsin.
The suit alleges that DOGE's access to the Treasury records could interfere with funding already appropriated by Congress, which would exceed the Treasury Department's statutory authority. The case also argues that the DOGE access violates federal administrative law and the U.S. Constitution's separation of powers doctrine.
It also accuses Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent of changing the department's longstanding policy for protecting sensitive personally identifiable information and financial information to allow Musk's DOGE team access to its payment systems.
"This decision failed to account for legal obligations to protect such data and ignored the privacy expectations of federal fund recipients," including states, veterans, retirees, and taxpayers, the lawsuit says.
Connecticut Attorney General William Tong said it's not clear what DOGE is doing with the information in the Treasury systems.
"This is the largest data breach in American history," Tong said in a statement Friday. "DOGE is an unlawfully constituted band of renegade tech bros combing through confidential records, sensitive data and critical payment systems. What could go wrong?"
The Treasury Department has said the review is about assessing the integrity of the system and that no changes are being made. According to two people familiar with the process, Musk's team began its inquiry looking for ways to suspend payments made by the U.S. Agency for International Development, which Trump and Musk are attempting to dismantle. The two people spoke with The Associated Press on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.
Separately, Democratic lawmakers are seeking a Treasury Department investigation of DOGE's access to the government's payment system.
Also, labor unions and advocacy groups have sued to block the payments system review over concerns about its legality. A judge in Washington on Thursday temporarily restricted access to two employees with "read only" privileges.
In 2022, one of Peter Thiel's favorite thinkers envisioned a second Trump Administration in which the federal government would be run by a “CEO”
The Point: In 2022, one of Peter Thiel's favorite thinkers envisioned a second Trump Administration in which the federal government would be run by a “CEO” who was not Trump and laid out a playbook for how it might work. Elon Musk is following it.
The Back Story: In 2012, Curtis Yarvin — Peter Thiel’s “house philosopher”—called for something he dubbed RAGE: Retire All Government Employees. The idea: Take over the United States government and gut the federal bureaucracy. Then, replace civil servants with political loyalists who would answer to a CEO-type leader Yarvin likened to a dictator.
“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia,” he said. Yarvin, a software programmer, framed this as a “reboot” of government.
Elon Musk’s DOGE is just a rebranded version of RAGE. He demands mass resignations, locks career employees out of their offices, threatens to delete entire departments, and seizes total control of sensitive government systems and programs. DOGE = RAGE, masked in the bland language of “efficiency.”
But Musk’s reliance on Yarvin’s playbook runs deeper.
In an essay dated April 2022, Yarvin updated RAGE to something he described as a “butterfly revolution.” In an essay on his paywalled Substack, he imagined a second Trump presidency in which Trump would enable a radical government transformation. The proposal will sound familiar to anyone who has watched Musk wreak havoc on the United States Government (USG) over the past three weeks.
Wrote Yarvin:
We’ve got to risk a full power start—a full reboot of the USG. We can only do this by giving absolute sovereignty to a single organization—with roughly the powers that the Allied occupation authorities held in Japan and Germany in the fall of 1945. This level of centralized emergency power worked to refound a nation then, for them. So it should work now, for us.”
(The metaphor of “full power start” comes from Star Trek and entails a risky process of restarting a fictional spaceship in a way that might cause “implosion.” The World War II metaphor casts the federal government as a conquered enemy now controlled by an outside force.)
Yarvin wrote that in a second term, Trump could appoint a different person to act as the nation’s “CEO.” This CEO would be enabled to run roughshod over the federal government, with Trump in the background as “chairman of the board.” The metaphors clarify the core idea: Run the government as a rogue corporation rather than a public institution beholden to the rules of democracy.
Trump himself will not be the brain …He will not be the CEO. He will be the chairman of the board—he will select the CEO (an experienced executive). This process, which obviously has to be televised, will be complete by his inauguration—at which the transition to the next regime will start immediately.
This CEO will bring a new radical new style of leadership to the federal government:
The CEO he picks will run the executive branch without any interference from the Congress or courts, probably also taking over state and local governments. Most existing important institutions, public and private, will be shut down and replaced with new and efficient systems. Trump will be monitoring this CEO’s performance, again on TV, and can fire him if need be.
Sound familiar?
Yarvin continues: Trump should amass an army of people willing to staff his new regime. Once he wins, this “magnificent army” of “ideologically trained” and Trump-loyal “ninjas” will be unleashed on the federal bureaucracy.
[H]e will throw it directly against the administrative state—not bothering with confirmed appointments, just using temporary appointments as needed. The job of this landing force is not to govern. It is to understand the government. It is to figure out what the Trump administration can actually do—when it assumes the full Constitutional powers given to the chief executive of the executive branch…
The regime must have the capacity to govern every institution it does not dismantle. The Trump regime is not a barbaric sack of America’s institutions. Genghis Khan is not in the building! It is a systematic renewal of America’s institutions. No brand or building can survive. But the new regime must perform the real functions of the old, and ideally perform them much better.
Many institutions which are necessary organs of society will have to be destroyed. These organs will have to be replaced. If they have not already been replaced in the larval stage, or even if they have, to scale—these replacements will need staff.
Government isn't the only target for this hostile takeover, wrote Yarvin:
Finally, it is not sufficient to have an army of parachute ninjas large or smart to drop into all the agencies in the executive branch. Many institutions of power are outside the government proper. Ninjas will have to land on the roofs of these buildings too—mainly journalism, academia and social media.
The new regime must seize all points of power, without respect for paper protections. Anything can be nationalized—so long as the new regime has the staff, the prize crew as it were, to nationalize it.
Yarvin envisioned a crew of experienced and educated government workers who would be recruited to staff the new regime. Musk appears to have different ideas. As Vittoria Elliott of Wired reports, Musk's chief lieutenants at DOGE (Destruction of Government by Elon) are very young men with no experience in government.
(Read "The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk's Government Takeover," and please subscribe to Wired, which is doing excellent work.)
Yarvin is not alone in envisioning a massive purge of government. In 2021, J.D. Vance lauded Yarvin's work and called for a government purge:
I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.
Like Yarvin, Vance compared the federal government to a conquered enemy:
De-Nazification, De-Baathification ... I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left. And turn them against the left. We need like a de-Baathification program, a de-woke-ification program.
He added that Trump should defy any court orders designed to stop his purge.
The idea of a massive purge also appears in the writings of Balaji Srinivasan, whose ideas seem primarily derived from Yarvin's. I've written much about Srinivasan in this newsletter, so I won't quote him at length here. But his core idea, which he clearly got from Yarvin, is a corporate takeover of governments, which will afterward be run like tech companies (specifically, Twitter). Just as Musk took over Twitter and stripped "Blue Checks" of their status, he will now defrock civil servants, experts, and anyone who is loyal to democracy instead of the current regime.
Of course, the plot to destroy the federal bureaucracy also has a partner in the far-right Heritage Foundation. Project 2025, which is clearly being implemented despite mocking Republican denials during the 2024 campaign, calls for a purging and dismantling of government as well. As the Association of Federal Government Employees warned last July:
What could happen to our government and the federal workforce in 2025? A group of conservative organizations have a plan, and it’s not good for federal employees.
The plan is detailed in a blueprint called Project 2025, organized by the far-right Heritage Foundation, and backed by over 100 conservative organizations.
The plan promises a takeover of our country’s system of checks and balances in order to “dismantle the administrative state” – the operations of federal agencies and programs according to current law and regulation, including many of the laws and regulations that govern federal employment.
Longtime readers may recall that back in September, the Heritage Foundation and particular San Francisco tech interests held a conference called "Reboot 2024: The New Reality."
The New Reality
Analysis: What once seemed like a fringe theory is now being carried out by the corporate powers that have wholly captured our government. While there are some minor differences between Yarvin's approach and Musk's, here's a summary of what they have in common:
1. Install a CEO Dictator
Yarvin’s Blueprint: Trump appoints a CEO to run the country like a private corporation, bypassing Congress and the courts. Musk’s Moves: Acts as federal CEO, demands unilateral control over sensitive government programs, positioning himself as an unelected decision-maker as Trump stays in the background.
2. Purge the Bureaucracy
Yarvin’s Plan: “Retire All Government Employees” (RAGE) – fire career civil servants and replace them with loyalists.
Musk’s Moves: DOGE is gutting teams, demanding mass resignations, locking employees out of offices, and threatening mass layoffs in federal government. Meanwhile, DOGE is recruiting inexperienced young men who owe their loyalty to Musk/Thiel.
3. Build a Loyalist Army
Yarvin’s Blueprint: Recruit an “ideologically trained” army to replace experts and enforce the new regime.
Musk’s Moves: Surrounding himself with young, inexperienced loyalists who enforce his will without question. Project 2025 will also provide Republican cadre to run what's left of the federal government.
4. Dismantle Democratic Institutions
Yarvin’s Blueprint: Strip power from federal agencies, courts, and Congress, centralizing authority under the executive branch.
Musk’s Moves: Undermining the credibility of the federal government, downplaying legal oversight, and defying regulatory authorities. Dismantling government agencies and functions with no plan for their replacement.
5. Seize Media and Information Control to Maintain Power
Yarvin’s Blueprint: Take over government, journalism, academia, and social media to control public narratives.
Musk’s Moves: Buying Twitter, firing journalists, boosting propaganda, and promoting fringe narratives while attacking traditional media. Leading the hostile tech takeover as Trump’s “CEO.”
Did I miss anything?
Conclusion: There is a lot more to say. What surprises me most is how the political press generally fails to inform the public that Musk is taking a systematic approach, one that has been outlined in public forums for years. (Some press outlets, like the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times, are owned by billionaires keenly interested in kowtowing to Musk and Trump.)
We are witnessing the methodical implementation of a long-planned strategy to transform American democracy into corporate autocracy. The playbook was written in plain sight and is now being followed step by step. Some dismiss the Yarvins of the world as unhinged nuts, but that's the point. These guys, with their bizarre and dangerous ideas, have gotten very far in 2025. Just look at the news.
Yarvin pitched his vision as a fictional or unlikely scenario. Unfortunately, it now appears to be our new reality. The press's failure to connect these dots isn't just a journalistic oversight — it's a critical missed warning about the systematic dismantling of democratic governance. By the time most Americans understand what's happening, the "reboot" – the destruction of government – may already be complete.
This fits what we are seeing. I posted a video discussing this. Sounds “way out there” and I would normally just dismiss it, but he is a respected west coast media reporter and has receipts/documentation to lend proof. Scary crap.
Republican lawmaker seeks US judge's impeachment over ruling against Trump Nate Raymond Wed, February 19, 2025 at 3:19 PM EST3 min read
(Reuters) - A Republican ally of Donald Trump has moved to impeach a federal judge who blocked a team set up by the president and spearheaded by billionaire Elon Musk from accessing U.S. Treasury Department systems responsible for trillions of dollars in payments.
Congressman Derrick Van Orden on Tuesday filed a resolution in the House of Representatives seeking to have U.S. District Judge Paul Engelmayer in Manhattan removed from office following calls by Musk and several conservative lawmakers for judges to be impeached after stymieing key parts of Trump's agenda.
Van Orden's resolution accused the judge of judicial misconduct and abuse of power.
In order to be removed from office, the House must pass by a simple majority vote an article of impeachment accusing Engelmayer of a crime and then the Senate must then vote by at least a two-thirds majority to convict the judge. Republicans control both chambers of Congress but do not have a two-thirds majority in the Senate.
Engelmayer, an appointee of Democratic former President Barack Obama, drew Musk's scorn after temporarily blocking Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, from accessing Treasury Department systems in a lawsuit brought by 19 Democratic state attorneys general.
That decision and rulings by other judges have prompted Trump, Musk and their conservative allies to sharply criticize judges who have ruled against the Republican president's policies, fueling concerns about whether his administration will abide by judicial rulings.
Van Orden and Engelmayer did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Judges rarely speak publicly about matters concerning pending litigation.
Trump has put Musk, the world's wealthiest person, in charge of his efforts to downsize and overhaul the federal government.
Musk has called for a "wave of judicial impeachments." Two conservative lawmakers have announced plans to introduce articles of impeachment against U.S. District Judge John McConnell of Rhode Island, who blocked Trump's administration from freezing federal funding, as well as Engelmayer.
Van Orden, whose reelection bid last year received Trump's endorsement, was the first member of Congress to formally do so, accusing Engelmayer in his resolution of committing high crimes and misdemeanors. He is the resolution's sole sponsor.
Van Orden in his resolution accused Engelmayer of ruling against DOGE and Trump "on purely political grounds, demonstrating clear bias and prejudice against the president and the 74,000,000 Americans who voted for him."
Marin Levy, a Duke University School of Law professor who studies the federal judiciary, said impeachment under the U.S. Constitution is supposed to be reserved for serious misconduct, not disappointment with court decisions, which can be appealed.
"Articles of impeachment filed against judges who are simply performing their constitutional role represent an attempt to politicize the judiciary and quite frankly to intimidate judges," Levy said.
Impeachments of federal judges are rare: Only 15 have ever been impeached in U.S. history, and only eight have been convicted by the Senate, most recently in 2010. Such impeachments in modern history have typically related to criminal or bribery offenses.
Republicans have a 53-47 majority in the Senate, meaning some Democrats would need to vote for impeachment in order to remove the judge from the bench.
That’s the whole point of the far right propaganda machines, bro. Create siloed echo chambers and force feed them lies until they are confused, scared, and think everyone around them is possibly the enemy. Unless you look like them, talk like them, worship like them, or have identical values… you are the OTHER. And the OTHER is who is always attacking. That’s how we got here and the only way to reverse the brain washing is to expose the truth.
Honestly, I want to pick up the nearest bludgeoning object and head bash who spew their hate most days; but that is seriously not who I am. I’m not fearless, I’m just not fearful. And like them, I’m lashing out at what I don’t understand. Now I understand. And yes they enabled the true bad actors, but so did we… with things like the crap we all say to each other back and forth on DT and elsewhere. We are being used as puppets to help the elite get away with destroying us. So, you tell me how we proceed. Knowledge is power, and anyone with their eyes open can now see the truth of what is going on. I don’t think even the most imbecilic things the dupes say should dissuade us from trying to spread that truth. I’m more guilty than anyone of using the mallet on the dumbest far right talking points, but at the end of the day I remember they’ve been programmed to create this disconnect from reality. It’s all meant to keep us fighting amounts ourselves. Meant to create fear, panic, chaos and misery. Because when you are flooding the zone with those emotions people don’t pay attention to what is truly happening.
I hate that the far right enabled this Trump BS. I hate that they have made cucks of the republican party. I couldn’t fathom how anyone, especially dudes I thought were quality individuals at one time could fall for the hate. The who thing is maddening beyond belief. And now I’m seeing people use the things that I said and how I attacked while being told by others on my side it was too much…. Same guys are doing the same I did then, now. That’s radicalization. First they radicalized the right. Then we radicalized ourselves. So after realizing this, the Atheist is going to preach and say we need to go another route. They can either join in or be eaten by the elite they used to hate, before they elected them. Elon is the coastal elite in its purest form. Now, watch the elite-brainwashing-trained poop-throwing-monkeys defend him as he guts democracy. Trump is elite too, but he’s an elite outcast because he’s dumb af and stinks at everything including personal hygiene. So they propped him up to take the hate for this heist. Anyone can see Elon is pulling all the strings and levers of power. Trump has been reduced by mental decline to a blithering idot who is not only out of touch with reality but now suffers from delusions that he is on the same level as God, Kings, and Emporors. Dud can barely form a cohesive thought. We all know damn well these billionaires aren’t flocking to him for his “genius”. He started the long con with birtherism but now he’s devolved into their dementia riddled patsy.
Hard for me to hate the people that were duped. They can still send me over the edge, but the real bad actors are in DC, boardrooms, and elite homes.
It's kinda interesting to see the evolution of the conversations you and I have had over the years. We have had some rather spirited debates on policy differences over the years, albeit the betterment of the country was always our shared goal.
On this, however, I don't think we could agree more.
When are we going to King's Table to hash this out further?
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