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I am thinking maybe TreVeyon Henderson and Jalen Milroe.

A couple of other names; WR Luther Burden from Missouri and TE Mason Taylor LSU.

They'll trade down at #33. Aireontae Erserey at #36.

I think it was cruel that the NFL invited Milroe to the draft. Hope he has another outfit if he's sticking around for the long haul.

I really hope that Milroe isn't one of our 2nd rounders. There is a ton of top talent left, and I wouldn't hate taking a shot at Sanders at this point simply because we have the extra 2nd now. So some combination of Erserey, Jayden Higgins, Emmanwori, Mike Green, Will Johnson. We need a RB as well, but it is kind of a loaded class, so I may be tempted to wait until our early 3rd rounder.

I am thinking along your line. The draft has fallen perfectly for us. We don't need to rush or reach. This is looking like it can become a very good get healthy draft for the Browns.

From your lips to God’s ears.

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/sto...rowns-meet-aireontae-ersery/83199095007/

From what I can find this is the last OT that was considered a high second round pick

I also wouldn't hate Jack Sawyer with one of our 3rds.

Just a thought, I wonder if the Browns and Berry are looking at trading for the Titans QB Will Levis that still has 2-years left on his rookie deal now that the Titans have drafted QB Ward at #1.

With two first round picks in hand for 2026, it would appear that the franchise QB might be on the Browns mind for 2026. In the meantime, giving a shot to Levis and Pickett with Flacco as a mentor would make more sense that drafting a project QB when you can see if you can revitalize Pickett and Levis' careers on the cheap.

That way, Berry and the Browns can focus on filling the holes and aging o-line without wasting a pick on a project player QB. With guys like Edge Mike Green from Marshall and WR Luther Burden Missouri still available plus TE Fannin from Bowling Green, the Browns could fill some serious holes before they focus on RB and the o-line the rest of the draft without worrying about QB. There is no RB listed in the top 50 available so a Day 3 look at RB would appear to be the Browns selection day.

Keep an eye out for G Dylan Fairchild from Georgia on Day 3 too. He's been compared to Wyatt Teller. Not a bad replacement for an ageing Teller if you get a clone. Just a thought

I wouldn't be hurt with this pick - rated as the best OT left on the board. At 6'6" and 330 lbs, he'd be a monster at the LT position. He was the 2024 Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year.

So far, I think we've done well with a chance tonight to hit a grand slam. An OT, RB and BPA for rounds 2 and 3.

tonight will make/break the draft for his year. Yes, we stockpiled for next year, but it is imperative that we come away from tonight with picks 33/36 as being GOOD players

Interesting idea
I was never a Will Levis fan
But flip a 6th for him and I am okay seeing if KS can make something of him

We could also flip one of them for a 1st next year...
p.s. Sorry Mac, we both posted at the same time with the same thought...lol

This would be awesome to me, depending on te player(s) we pass up.

This isn't as hard as Andrew Berry is making this out to be.

I know getting him to make the right pick is like steering a ship with a 5 ton anchor firmly planted to the bottom of the sea, but we've got to make him move. Or better yet, just pick the players when he is out of the room on a break.

33 - Treveyon Henderson
36 - Will Howard (Best fit of all the QB's for Stefanski's system)

Staying pat - any two out of Ersery, Emmanwori and Tyler Shough. I can get on board with Treyveyon also.

Would prefer it if someone comes up and wants #33 for a first next year and a mid/late 2nd this year - or high 3.

Anybody find a good list of top available remaining players?

in years past, CBS Sports, Espn, NFL.com all seemed to have great lists out, now I only find one that looks half assed

Darkhorse picks
Will Johnson and Benjamin Morrison

Berry loves him some Cb's
Both would have been top 10 maybe top 5 picks had it not been for their injuries

I think Morrison is more likely. Seems Johnson is a better fit for a zone team and we play more man
(From what I hear => I don't know the UM def scheme enough to formulate my own opinion)

OVR. RK. POS. RK. PROSPECT STATUS
10 EDGE 4 Marshall Mike Green UNDRAFTED
17 S 1 South Carolina Nick Emmanwori UNDRAFTED
18 CB 2 Michigan Will Johnson UNDRAFTED
22 EDGE 6 Boston College Donovan Ezeiruaku UNDRAFTED
27 WR 3 Missouri Luther Burden III UNDRAFTED
33 TE 3 LSU Mason Taylor UNDRAFTED
34 QB 2 Colorado Shedeur Sanders UNDRAFTED
37 OT 5 Minnesota Aireontae Ersery UNDRAFTED
38 LB 2 UCLA Carson Schwesinger UNDRAFTED
39 CB 5 Ole Miss Trey Amos UNDRAFTED
41 TE 4 Miami Elijah Arroyo UNDRAFTED
42 WR 5 Iowa State Jaylin Noel UNDRAFTED
43 EDGE 8 Io State JT Tuimoloau UNDRAFTED
44 RB 3 Iowa Kaleb Johnson UNDRAFTED
45 WR 6 Iowa State Jayden Higgins UNDRAFTED
46 RB 4 Ohio State TreVeyon Henderson

I like Mike Green de, Jayden Higgins wr, Treveyon Henderson rb and TE Mason Taylor Lsu. QB Tyler Shough all 4 are first round talent and u can't throw a rock and not hit on a TE. Safety we need one but I don't love any in this class to be honest.

We can get a stud rb or te with that 2nd pick in the 3rd. I m not a big fan of the safeties but 5 to 7 is gonna have some interesting prospects fall

Saw an interview with kaleb johnson the other day
A guy I don't want

Just curious but would anyone be upset if we took Shedeur at this point?

I like Higgins too, but he may be too similar to Tillman

2a TE 3 LSU Mason Taylor UNDRAFTED
2b OT 5 Minnesota Aireontae Ersery UNDRAFTED
3a Judkins
3b Howard

I don’t want Sanders. We don’t need the drama and I feel there are other QB’s with more talent. I like Shough from Louisville.

I kinda feel like it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to draft Sanders on day 2 if we stockpiled first round picks for next year.

My sentiments exactly. Again we need other positions addressed before we take a player like Sanders. I feel good about where we are this morning. The next 4 picks will be very important for us to determine where we’re headed.

I like Henderson, Chubb needs help.

Depends on what site you go on, ESPN has both Henderson (30) and Judkins (50) in their top 50.

Torn between judkins. Henderson and scataboo i think all 3 worth picking in 2nd

The most important duty today for Berry is "DO NOT REACH FOR A PLAYER!" The quickest way for this draft to go down the crapper in a real hurry will be if Berry starts reaching for players.

Now that Berry has had five years of running the NFL draft for the Browns, how has he done with his decisions? He has drafted a total of 37 players. There are 18 players still on the roster with the majority being nominal performers and backups. such as WRs David Bell and Michael Woods, C Nick Harris, CB Cam Mitchell, and DE Alex Wright.

This year, Berry is running the draft as the Browns’ general manager for the 6th time. That makes him the longest-tenured Browns GM since Ernie Accorsi ran the show from 1985-92 or 7 years. In case anyone is wondering, Bill Belichick was the Browns’ unofficial general manager from 1992-95. Phil Savage was the general manager here from 2005-08.

Berry has made 37 picks for the Browns. Berry has only drafted 7 proven starters in 37 tries: S-Grant Delpit, CB-Greg Newsome, LB-JOK, CB-Martin Emerson, DE Isaiah McGuire, WR-Cedric Tillman, and RB-Jerome Ford.

The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. The Vikings shocked the world in 2024 and could shock Vegas again in 2025, as they spent heavily in free agency to improve the interior of their offensive line. But with a league-low four 2025 picks and a GM in Adofo-Mensah that's only drafted three proven starters in 3-years and 23 tries, it's fair to question their ability to improve during the draft. He previously served as the vice president of football operations for the Cleveland Browns from 2020 to 2021 under Andrew Berry.

BERRY's DRAFT SELECTIONS - TOP 100 HIGHLIGHTED
2020 Draft - 7 picks taken only S-Grant Delpit 2nd Rd pick #44 remains
2021 Draft - 8 picks taken with only CB-Greg Newsome 1st Rd pick #26, LB-Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah 2nd Rd pick #52 remaining
2022 Draft - 9 picks taken with CB-Martin Emerson 3rd Rd pick #68, DE-Alex Wright 3rd Rd pick #78, RB-Jerome Ford 5th Rd pick #156,
WR-Michael Woods 6th Rd pick #202 remaining
2023 Draft - 7 picks taken with WR-Cedric Tillman 3rd Rd pick #74, OT-Dawand Jones 4th Rd pick #111, DE-Isaiah McGuire 4th Rd pick #126,
DB-Cameron Mitchell 5th Rd pick #142, C-Luke Wypler 6th Rd pick #190 remaining
2024 Draft - 6 picks taken with all remaining LB-Mike Hall Jr 2nd Rd pick #54, OG-Mike Zinter 3rd Rd pick #85, WR-Jamari Thrash 5th Rd pick #156,
WR-Nathaniel Watson 6th Rd pick #206, DT-Jowon Biggs 7th Rd pick #243, CB-Myles Harden 7th Rd pick #227

Players Gone
2023 DT-Siaki Ika 3rd Rd pick #98
2023 QB-Dorian Thompson-Robinson 5th Rd pick #140
2022 WR-David Bell 3rd Rd pick #99
2022 DT-Perrion Winfrey 4th Rd pick #98
2022 K-Cade York 4th Rd pick #124
2022 DE-Isaiah Thomas 7th Rd pick #223
2022 C-Dawson Deaton 7th Rd pick #246
2021 WR-Anthony Schwartz 3rd Rd pick #91
2021 T-James Hudson 4th Rd pick #110
2021 DT-Tommy Togiai 4th Rd pick #132
2021 LB-Tony Fields 5th Rd pick #153
2021 S-Richard LeCounte 5th Rd pick #169
2021 RB-Demetric Felton 6th Rd pick #211
2020 OT-Jedrick Wills 1st Rd pick #10
2020 DT-Jordan Elliott 3rd Rd pick #88
2020 LB-Jacob Phillips 3rd Rd pick #97
2020 TE-Bryant Harrison 4th Rd pick #115
2020 C-Nick Harris 5th Rd pick #160
2020 WR-Donovan Peoples-Jones 6th Rd pick #187

I'd be happy if we ended up with Henderson and Burden

I'd like to use our first 2nd round pick on either Aireontea Ersery , Mike Green, or decent W.R.
Then trade down the other 2nd pick and take a chance on Milroe. He's probable not a great fit in Stefanski's system
but the kid has a decent arm and a great set of wheels.

Love the potential there

I was hoping for the trade in round 1 and we got probably the BPA at 5th pick, now I'm hoping for
One of these three at the first pick in round 2;
Henderson, RB, OSU
Savaiinaea, OT, AZ
Green, EDGE, Marshall

One of these two with pick 4 in round 2;
Shough,QB, Louisville
Milroe, QB, Alabama

Every indication leads me to believe that the Browns are loading up for a QB next year and I think that's a wise decision. Having said that it seems to me that picking a QB in the second round this year just because you have another second round pick would be a huge waste of a valuable asset. Especially with those picks being so high in round 2. If the grand plan is to select your future franchise QB next year, don't waste the opportunity to set the stage for his success.

There are a lot of ways you can do that. One is that our OL is aging. We are weak at the OT position or G would help a lot since Bitonio's days are almost done. Every rookie QB can be assisted and take some pressure off with a great running game so a premiere RB would help set the stage. The state of our WR's leaves something to be desired as well so there is always that option. Then as has been discussed we do have a need at CB. A great defense makes it easier to win games while scoring fewer points. That's certainly helpful to any rookie QB and any QB period.

There are so many ways the Browns can invest for the future. What I'm most pleased about, at least to this point, is they didn't panic and reach for a QB that wasn't worth the pick. They seem to have understood that acting desperately would only set them further back and they had to exercise patience.

I wouldn't mind him at this point. Not sure how AB and KS feel about him, but I hope they're at least talking about it now that we're out of the first round.

I'll also say that (unless someone wants to blow our mind) I hope we're done trading down. We're now in the real meat of this draft. We should be maximizing the number of picks we have today vs dropping back, IMO.

This makes logical sense. I have written a few times, just because they need a QB badly, doesn't improve the talents and abilities of the QBs available this year. I am cool with OL, assuming the Browns think they grade well.

What are peoples' thoughts on a TE in the second or third if other positions don't grade well. TE is "supposed" to be a position of strength this year.

I don't want Sanders now. Obviously he's NOT a FQB, so why waste our time and resources. I'd get the BPA at the playmaking spots

A serious need, Pit, as both Newsome and Emerson last season were awful. We may also have a need at FS. We cannot fill all our needs with quality players in one draft...

That is my dream scenario. There is premium value with #33 and I would love to land a 1st round next year.

I think Erserey has a high ceiling and a can't miss floor. Big, strong, always available. His punch in the run game means we can pull a RB name out of a hat in this year's draft.

Mason Taylor with the later 2nd (assuming the trade down) would make me happy. Not that I would lose sleep with another pick, I just think it's another solid choice that could provide long-term production.

My favorite thing about Luther Burden III is his name -- great football name. Please don't draft him, I want a larger target and still have PTSD after from Berry being fleeced of Nico Collins. I'll take NC 2.0 with Jayden Higgins from Iowa especially if he falls to the 3rd.

If Berry wants to work some magic at DB, I'd prefer he does it at #94 or #126. We dropped 22 slots in the 4th with the trade out of #2. If Berry can find the diamond in the rough DB there, this could easily become his best draft. I say that believing there are a few different avenues to get there with tonight's picks.

I'm a bit more concerned about our CBs than the national guys have led on - Emerson and Newsome have taken a step back since the playoff game in Houston

Anybody you like at 33 or 36?

I’m going to surprise myself and say I want Milroe if he drops to 94. The risk-reward would be acceptable there.

We need an OT. The kid from Minnesota is the only one that I have seen that is worth it. I’m going by what other people say since I haven’t followed the draft this year. With 36 I would pick one of the OSU backs. Henderson might be gone but I like Judkins a lot as well.

I would not be happy picking Sanders at this point. It negates the purpose of trading #2. That trade was all about getting a QB in 2026 draft and picking Sanders now would make that huge move made yesterday look silly. I do expect the Browns to take a QB in 3rd or 4th round. A developmental QB like Howard, McCord, and Shough.

Emmanwori would be a good secondary pick. Johnson is a stud, but injury might be the risk.

I also like Green from Marshall.

BUT, I would take Henderson and the best WR available

I have a feeling the alleged sexual assault is why he's falling. Not sure the Browns want to go down that road again when they are pretty deep as it is at DE.

And I wholeheartedly agree with that. That's why I support beginning to do so this year and complete the rest in next years draft when they target a QB. My post was simply suggesting positions which they could begin to complete that process. Not that they could target all of those positions with high draft picks this year but just different directions they could look at for needed upgrades.

Wouldn't complain if Emmanwori were picked. Don't like the injury red flag with Johnson. I'd cringe but still be okay with the pick.

Green is a solid no-can-do. Nobody here wants to do that again. That's probably going to get ugly once a large check hits his account.

If shedeur is there at the end of the 2nd or so I see a minor trade up to grab him.

Many reports that many scouts don't see him as that very good. And also the headache that Deion might bring.


It's obvious that Berry is stocking up for a move next year as well.

So it's entirely okay though to sit the kid this year and see how he does in practice. See how he develops. And then if there is a more league ready option in the draft next year load up and go get him.

I wouldn't take Sanders in any round. Just say no. Mostly because I think he's overrated and I don't want the drama with his father not to mention the stories about his interviews if true. We can draft someone else with more potential and no drama.

I would rather take the risk at a developmental QB in a lower round. Say Howard late in round 3 or early in round 4 if available.

That's exactly how I feel Pit. Howard would be fine as well as Shough from Louisville.

Exactly - just say no to that clown show Jador.

j/c...

This continued fall could be wild to watch. Mel Kiper's head is going to explode. Will make for good TV if Shadeur slides into the 3rd.

I think some of the Browns targets in Round 2 include Treyveon Henderson, Luther Burden, Kaleb Johnson, JT Tuimoloau, Nic Scouton, Jayden Higgins.

Round 3-- Jalen Milroe.

If so, and I expect it is, trade down from #33 for a 1st rd next year. We would have awesome power in the 2026 draft. We have a lot of choices tonight....

I think you could add Mike Green, Will Johnson Jr and Nick Emmanwori to that list of possibilities.

I hope Green is off the board. He has accusations of sexual assault at Virginia and in high school. He vigorously denies at least the one in Virginia

[quote=mac][color:#FFFFCC]It does not appear that the Browns are set to pick a QB at #33...jmo

With the Browns sitting at #33 we could see the Browns trying to trade the pick to a team that is more desperate for a "specific QB" than the Browns. Would the Browns give up the #33 pick and a chance at Shedeur Sanders for a 1st round pick in the 2026 draft..?

I think that would be the price if you are talking about a straight trade of our pick for a next year pick. If we are talking about swapping 2nd rounders this year I don't think we could get a 1st next year. Maybe more like a 2nd or 3rd next year, but hey, we can always hope.

I see the next few rounds as the sweet spot of the draft....like any year. I don't want to not have two 2nd round picks in this draft. Those picks tun in to good starters or at minimum solid rotational players. I don't want to give away picks this year. We have a chance to make this a healing draft.

Mike Green better not be on their board. A box safety seems redundant.

j/c...

Mike Green is very talented but again we don't need the drama we've had enough. I would pass on him.

Mike Green is an Edge. Emmanwori is a box safety. I know that you know this and just mistyped. I’m only correcting this because some might not know

I know. I was typing under the assumption that everyone knew their positions. I was referring to Mike Green not being on their board due to his sexual assault allegations and Emmanwori being redundant to Delpit.

I took some liberties with people's understanding of each player!

We had people on here complaining about Abdul Carter being to light when there was talk of us picking him at #2 and Mike Green is listed as being lighter than Carter.

I’m starting to warm up to the idea of Sanders, but I think there are better options for us (specifically the LSU TE or a workhorse RB).

Would be nice if some team REALLY wanted Sanders with our 33rd pick and we pulled off another Jacksonville type trade.

Pitt needs a QB more than we do and do not have a 2nd round pick and passed on the guy. Not interested.

I think the pick being #2 may have been their issue. I was fine with Carter at 2, but his injuries were more the issue for me. But that's why the team pays doctors.

Feels like a reach. What does anyone know about this guy?

Wtf! I am irate!!

Looks like they are drafting best player available regardless of position.

I am not offended by the player
Round 2 value
Hard worker ...

What I don't understand is how we keep drafting for defense when we had one of (if not THE) worst offenses in the NFL

We need an OT
1 Wr
2 Rb
1 TE

and of course a Qb => but I think we wait on Qb planning for next year

The Browns needed a good DL and a LB


The offensive side of the game just got better with this pick of Judkins !

I'm happy so far

I like the Judkins pick

Run the ball and stop the run. If your team cannot do the basics, then you cannot do anything.

With our next 2 picks, I would love:

Tre Harris Wr Ole Miss
6'3 210#
Physical Wr and deep threat

Cam Scattebo
Extremely versatile
Plays harder than anyone I have have watched in a long time - love the attitude
Judkins/Scattabo = Mack/Byner

Saints go Tyler Shough

I love how all our picks absolutely love just playing football and that they do so with passion and intensity - something we have been missing for decades

I've noticed that too - we put a premium on tough, football guys

j/c...

Is it just me or does Boston College, for not being a powerhouse, always seem to churn out NFL talent?

I had a feeling Green would go to the Ravens

I am hoping for Harold Fannon at 67

Sanders and Milroe still there ...

S Xavier Watts from Notre Dame or WR Jaylin Noel from Iowa St. would be my choices.