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I don't even see it as being bought. It's more about access.

Let's call it what it is..a BRIBE...

Sorry man, bribes are given under the table. Something that neither party wants to be seen. This was openly given to a politicians campaign in one form or another. All above board and nothing illegal about it.

The UAW makes and receives contributions all the time. Nothing illegal or sleezy about it.


Definition of Bribe (noun)..

: money or favor given or promised in order to influence the judgment or conduct of a person in a position of trust
police officers accused of taking bribes

: something that serves to induce or influence

Definition of Bribe (verb)..

: to influence the judgment or conduct of (someone) with or as if with offers of money or favor : to induce or influence by or as if by bribery
(ex:attempting to bribe a judge)


Peen...doesn't matter where the bribe takes place..under the table, over the table, in the bathroom or bedroom...

offering something of value in an attempt to curry favor can be interpreted as a bribe.



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j/c...

lol, and now the Bengals have their hand out.




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Isn’t their lease up in 2026?


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Isn’t their lease up in 2026?

Yep. The team has two 5 year lease extension options it could exercise.

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The world and how it hasn't changed- Vietnam War- 58000, Lady Bird Johnson bought lots of Bell Helicopter stock....teacher in Texas dies a multimillionaire several times over working the political handshakes and defense stocks filling the overflowing trough politicians eat from.....same thing at work building stadiums.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Isn’t their lease up in 2026?


No. 2028. That is why the rubber needs to hit the road. A 3 year project ends in July 28.

They can have the stadium and parking complete. The rest might take a little while longer. The state and county will have the roads ready.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by dawglover05
Isn’t their lease up in 2026?


No. 2028. That is why the rubber needs to hit the road. A 3 year project ends in July 28.

They can have the stadium and parking complete. The rest might take a little while longer. The state and county will have the roads ready.

the lease ending doesn't really mean much if they get the deal that everyone can live with.. The lease can be extended if need be.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
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Isn’t their lease up in 2026?


No. 2028. That is why the rubber needs to hit the road. A 3 year project ends in July 28.

They can have the stadium and parking complete. The rest might take a little while longer. The state and county will have the roads ready.

the lease ending doesn't really mean much if they get the deal that everyone can live with.. The lease can be extended if need be.

No doubt. With some of the goofballs on the city council, they might try to enforce a 5 year deal and not 1 year extensions, if in fact that isn't already possible. I don't know the terms of the extensions

I hope it wouldn't come to that and force the Browns to play a season elsewhere for a season. That would end any chance of goodwill between the city and the Browns. Heck, the Browns might actively pimp west side restaurants and hotels. "Great establishments and way less crime".

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Just so you know, Downtown Cleveland is pretty nice these days. I remember when it wasn't nearly as nice.


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Just so you know, Downtown Cleveland is pretty nice these days. I remember when it wasn't nearly as nice.

I know. I go to games 5-7 times a year for the last 20 years. I stay downtown at least once per season.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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Just so you know, Downtown Cleveland is pretty nice these days. I remember when it wasn't nearly as nice.

I know. I go to games 5-7 times a year for the last 20 years. I stay downtown at least once per season.


Just so you know, those GoofBalls as you put it, are responsible for some of those improvements...


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My comments are based on how they have handled the Browns situation. It's one of 3 issues that have any real direct impact on me. The Guards and Cavs being the others. You live in the area so the local politics has more of an impact on your life. If you say they are doing a good job on running the city, you know better than I.

So if I use the term goofball in the future, understand it is simply my opinion on the Browns and stadium issues. After that, I don't pay any attention to the local goings on to any degree. I was glad when Sherwin Williams elected to stay inside the city and build that beautiful building.


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I bet the paint job was nice.

This new stadium is going to happen, everyone will come to a financial agreement that works for almost all. I’ve seen it many times in big infrastructure projects, : once the ball starts to gain momentum, it gets the go-ahead.

It’s an old stadium that is no longer upper-echelon.


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