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Just in case anyone missed it a Florida sheriff said if anyone throws a brick at a Florida demonstration they will be killed. This isnt California. https://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1 I can't get the video link to work but it's there. And the governor said

His comment was this. "If you throw a brick, a fire bomb or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains, because we will kill you, graveyard dead. We're not going to play."

First, why would anyone throw objects at a peaceful protest? Maybe we should talk about that.

Secondly, the comment was more specific in that is said thrown at a deputy. I can't speak for you but in my world a law enforcement officer has every right to protect their being against deadly force.

You do realize when fascists back an anti fascist up against a wall with no escape you’re going to get violence.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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Just in case anyone missed it a Florida sheriff said if anyone throws a brick at a Florida demonstration they will be killed. This isnt California. https://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1 I can't get the video link to work but it's there. And the governor said

His comment was this. "If you throw a brick, a fire bomb or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains, because we will kill you, graveyard dead. We're not going to play."

While to a great extent I agree that there is nothing substantially wrong with that statement, it certainly does nothing to attempt bringing peace to protests. It sounds more like something Rambo would say than what one would expect from a law enforcement official. I don't see where ramping up the rhetoric is helpful. I think we should expect more from a top law enforcement official than to try to use threatening rhetoric in such a situation.

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First, why would anyone throw objects at a peaceful protest? Maybe we should talk about that.

Maybe we should. When a small faction of the protestors become violent, why do some people call that a violent protest? It seems that is trying to focus on a small fraction of the protestors and label the vast majority of them as being violent who are not. If say 80% to 90% of the people attending are being peaceful why is it a certain portion of our society decide to ignore that and instead only focus on the 10% to 20%?

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Secondly, the comment was more specific in that is said thrown at a deputy. I can't speak for you but in my world a law enforcement officer has every right to protect their being against deadly force.

And I certainly agree with that. But there are also questions that come along with that.

Throwing a brick at law enforcement is most certainly a crime. There's no question about that. Anyone who does such a thing should be arrested and prosecuted. But I would have to ask, when you have police officers in riot gear, full helmets and shields, full body armor, just how deadly do you propose a brick is? I'm not sure in that situation, under those circumstances that is cause to kill someone "graveyard dead". I understand you may see it differently but that's a hard conclusion for me to reach.

Secondly, in a huge crowd with people constantly moving how safe is it to take shots at someone who "threw a brick"? How likely is it you could shoot and kill someone who had nothing to do with that? Most all of us who have any experience in handling such weapons have been taught from day one to take a safe shot. I'm not so sure this qualifies. It is at the very least a dangerous shot to try and make. Common sense needs to prevail here. That isn't what this sounds like.


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The fact is when riot starts protest has then ended. These riots are organized. In California they have arrested a man who drove up in a pick up truck and gave riot gear to so called protestors.

The Florida Sheriff has the correct stance to put an end to this nonsense. These leftist idiots rioting are terrorists plain and simple.


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The Supreme Court gave Trump and his fascist minions the right to kick the hornets nest all they want.


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Just to clarify my earlier post, I meant he announced himself before he was taken down.


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Wow! They organized a whole pick up truck with this! That Soros money sure doesn't go as far as it used to does it? rofl

So it's only "leftists" who riot at certain places at certain times for certain reasons you label as terrorists? "Things that make you go hmmmm for $500 Alex."


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
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Just in case anyone missed it a Florida sheriff said if anyone throws a brick at a Florida demonstration they will be killed. This isnt California. https://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1 I can't get the video link to work but it's there. And the governor said

His comment was this. "If you throw a brick, a fire bomb or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains, because we will kill you, graveyard dead. We're not going to play."

First, why would anyone throw objects at a peaceful protest? Maybe we should talk about that.

Secondly, the comment was more specific in that is said thrown at a deputy. I can't speak for you but in my world a law enforcement officer has every right to protect their being against deadly force.

You do realize when fascists back an anti fascist up against a wall with no escape you’re going to get violence.

Backs against the wall? I seem to see police and guardsman up against walls surrounded by rioters. What are you talking about.

I also saw you say kick a hornets nest.

So you describe the "protesters" as a hornets nest...I agree.


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I need to clarify something. The video I referred to was from another angle. In this video you can hear some scuffling before he identifies himself.

And that's what him identifying himself should have stopped at that point.

Exactly, the moment he identified himself, the tussle should have stopped. Noem should have stopped it... She did not.

But none of that matters.. Senator or everyday person, We supposedly live in a country where speaking up is our right. so if these politicians and appointed people can't stand up to questions, they should resign.


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That's the thing about supporting trump. You have to keep your head on a swivel. He's always saying one thing and then doing another. And then you have to go watch FOX News to see what excuses they made up to explain why.


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I can agree the comments could be viewed as inflammatory. I wouldn't have worded things that way.

It would have been better to say something along the lines that the police can meet deadly force with the same.

Make no mistake. I pray things like that don't happen but there comes a point where we can't just expect the police to stand there as people throw objects that can kill or seriously injure.

People who throw firecrackers need to face enhanced punishment. That could trigger off a tragedy.

Some people just don't think, or care. Some might possibly even hope.


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I'd say we're closer to being in agreement about this than we are many things. I'm still not sure how "deadly" a brick is against an officer in full riot gear but.....


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