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I never said it was alright.

I don't know if the person has a visa for themself or one that includes their family. Either way, the family needs to leave on time or shouldn't be here at all.

As for what happened in Nashville, I don't know if it happened or not. I don't pay much attention to Nashville news. If you say it happened, I will take your word. Nothing here has gone on like that.

Let me say this. I empathize. I think I have already made that clear. I don't sympathize. While somewhat close in definition, they aren't always the same..
If they came here illegally, they have always known something like this could happen. It's not my fault they put their family members in jeopardy of being separated. Just because previous administration didn't do much this isn't this administrations fault, but it is their problem.

To be honest, I don't think this would be anywhere near the issue it is today had the last administration not allowed unfettered access across an open border.

People just butt heads in this forum. None of us are going to adopt the position of the other.

I ain't buying into the "I'm masked to protect my family" Crap... They are ashamed of what they are doing.

Bush, Obama and Biden all expelled more folks than Trump has in his first and so far in his second term.... And they didn't have to blow off the constitution to accomplish it.

They followed the law as it was written.

Like I said, this is a show that trump puts on. Nothing more and nothing less. Everything with him is Show Business.

By the way, who's killing who. All I've seen so far is Righty's killing people. That is another one of those made up crap storms.

If only Biden would have tried to get legislation passed to help ...

Sure - Trump has ruled like a King with a slew of executive orders and didn't need legislation. True, Trump has let loose masked gangs in black who don't identify themselves and these gangs have terrorized some communities and the "problem" is curtailed. And no doubt in your eyes the ends justify the means. But if you could humour me - and humour Jester:

1. What is the problem with the illegals specifically? They contribute to our economy and offend less than your acerage US citizen.
2. What justification do you have for the Reupblicans preventing Biden from passing legislation to help with the border crossings - and then use his lack of impact on the border as a means to justify what Trump has done peeing all over the constitution?

The worst part of this is that stats verify what you are saying, but Facts be damned.

The admin's actions don't line up with this at all.

You don't have to go that far back in this very thread to find the article where US servicemembers' spouses have been deported. After that, there was an Afghan interpreter who helped American troops (and I'm assuming was brought to the US to avoid retribution in their home country for giving said help.

Our immigration (the legal process many use to IMMIGRATE to this country) is broken... it takes many years (and a decent chunk of money) to legally immigrate and become a permanent resident. There has been absolutely ZERO done to fix this. You've got a legal process so convoluted and broken that it requires years and a team of lawyers to navigate, and then if/when time runs out on that process, you have a rabid dog (Homan) that's trying to meet an arbitrary quota of shipping out humans. So intentional or not, you are talking out both sides of your mouth on this... and that's not even considering the legal programs that were canceled that brought vetted, sponsored individuals here that were artificially made illegal overnight by said program cancellations.

We didn't need new legislation. We already have immigration laws. It's funny how illegal crossing are down to a trickle as compared to a year ago. Desire to enforce is all it took.

Here is a good read on costs.

https://www.congress.gov/118/meetin...G-118-JU01-Wstate-CamarotaS-20240111.pdf

I've posted articles for this numerous times. The program was arbitrarily canceled... with no warning. Those TPP programs have an expiration date (I believe in this case it was 3 years, but I don't remember that part for sure and I'm not looking it up again).

Burying your head in the sand and/or not putting 2 and 2 together may be convenient, but it doesn't make for an effective argument.

So by your own numbers, 2 out of the 100 were "violent criminals", and less than half had felonies. Per my previous arguments on here, I would LOVE to know the rest of the "immigration violations" included.

You said they were collateral damage and hand-waved it away.

I think they are masked up because they are trying to sow maximal amounts of fear

Empathize means you understand the thoughts/feelings of another, and if this conversation has taught me anything, is that the deportation crowd does not understand some of the key contributing factors in this debate. You all also don't seem to understand that the story we're getting from this admin significantly deviates from reality in a few key areas (the characterization of the majority of the people we are deporting, being the primary one... as well as the contributing factors to not being able to secure permanent residence here).

You do realize this is in no way what he said. He was speaking about people that are here illegally. That if a farmer "vouches for them" they can stay. People here legally wouldn't need a farmer to "vouch for them" to be allowed to stay.


'We want to be a partner with ICE': Lee explains THP role in traffic stops in Nashville

Gov. Lee confirms state cooperation as troopers conduct 369 traffic stops at federal request, resulting 94 people detained for being undocumented.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/w...s-thp-role-in-traffic-stops-in-nashville

So out of 369 stops they made 94 arrests. And you know many if not most of those vehicles had more than one person in them. So this involved questioning well over 500 people. So no more and probably less than 1 out of 5 people they confronted were illegal. The only thing they were "targeting" is "brown people".


I have no idea how you could say something like this. Did you already forget that the first time he ran his main platform was to build a border wall? He went on and on and on about it. He said Mexico would pay for it. That was before Biden. Come on man.

It’s important to the Mega crowd because they don’t look like them. They arre sub-human. They are taking over their neighborhoods, their jobs, their shops and businesses. And damn they work harder and pray harder and have better family values than the Mega crowd. They want them gone, all of them.

I live in what I would describe an upper middle class, majority Republican neighborhood in a suburb of Nashville. One neighbor who lives below us is so MAGA he flew the flag upside down after Biden won in 2020. Flew a trump flag at his house. But so far I have yet to see any of these people have anything but immigrants who can't speak English doing their remodeling work, roofing their homes or doing their landscaping. I can't make a blanket statement as to how it works everywhere but that's how it works here. It's the old "Do as I say not as I do" crowd.

Exactly. same here. I do my own yard work. But nearly everyone around us uses the mostly Hispanic work force for that. There is one house in our neighborhood with a handicap person in a wheelchair. They had been flying the trump flag for a couple years now. The day after the BBB passed, I noticed it wasn’t flying anymore. I’m betting someone in the household is on Medicaid. Damn freeloaders.