DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Quinshon Judkins Arrested for Domestic Violence

Come on man, I don't get in to that. It's like the old story about Alabama husbands in redneck tee's beating their wife. I have many Alabama relatives who are husbands who don't beat their wife, and yes many wear those sleeveless Tee's. I am quite sure there are many family members, brothers, cousins, etc. who would beat the snot out of that person, be them blood or in-law. I don't have any direct black blood in me that I am aware of, but I am sure any of my black brothers would do, and feel the same, so let's forget this stereotype talk.

To the situation....it isn't looking good. Not from a Browns perspective. From a human perspective. It's not all said and done, but it appears that Jundkins is junk. A little Punk.

I don't have any links. My son is the Twitter guy but I don't have any reasonto doubt what he told me, but again, I can't post up any links, some of you twitter people might be able to research. The reports out of Ole Miss aren't good.

Nothing about hitting women but about him as a team member. Reports about him leaving Ole Miss was a mutual decision. He was always complaining about money and play calling. It got to the point Jax Dart was wanting him out of the huddle due to his disruption.

If Lane Kiffin is wanting you to leave the program, you are a pain in the ass. Kiffin is a pretty player friendly coach.

I do think Berry, or at least his scouts could have dug that up. I don't think most coaches are petty enough to tarnish a player who transfers unless there was a reason. Nobody wants a sandbagger, be it raise a players skills or demean him in some way without it being a true evaluation.

Nothing in the entire post by you I quoted had anything to do with any of that.

So once again, there was no criminal history or violence in Judkins past to indicate a reason for concern. I had no idea that what people see on Twitter about a disgruntled player means a team should be concerned about him running afoul of the law or committing domestic violence. In what world are those two things relative?

I haven’t thought about color of skin for one second and why do you think I want to label an entire group of people?

I deeply apologize if anything in my text has any reference to color of skin or socioeconomic backgrounds. Domestic violence is universal and you find it everywhere.

The reason I used Sherman as an example is that even the brightest, most intelligent and nice people can have these problems. We’re all the product of our upbringing and DNA.



Once again. There’s no stereotyping from my part. I don’t care if players are pink, white or green. I don’t see or judge people because of color. On the other hand political parties extremism , religion and being part of suspicious groups is another story.

Socioeconomic factors plays a part. That’s a fact. We can’t ignore that.
Being raised by a single mother is a factor. Some benefits from it others don’t.

If I’m specific. Young men, color or not, needs role models, mentors, fathers, grandfathers. Someone who hold these young men accountable. Someone who both love and care without shying away from responsibility.

Andrew Berry could be that man inside Berea. He has everything needed to take that role.
I’m still waiting..,.

You are describing many of the great players in the NFL. Since you claim color isn't a factor here, what color are the vast majority of drafted NFL players fit into the category that profile describes? I'm not going to say that's your intention but that's certainly the results.

In the case of Judkins, nothing you posted even applies. both of his parents were heavily involved in his life and they are who he gives credit to for inspiring him to work hard. So why would you bring this up about a player none of this applies to?..................

The only son of Quincy and Teva Judkins, he's one of three children in the family. They moved from Montgomery, Ala., to Pike Road, Ala., when he was in the seventh grade, and he eventually graduated from Pike Road High School, which won an Alabama 5A state championship his senior season.

Judkins talked about his parents, football and academics during an interview with the Beacon Journal during the Browns' OTA in late May.

What has your mom, Teva, meant in terms of being a role model and influence in your life?

My mom is amazing. Both my parents are really a part of my desperation to be successful and compete every day at whatever it may be in my career. My parents just had such a huge impact on my life, and they're both big inspirations.

Was there a crossroads moment in your life where you realized just what your parents meant to you?

Really just their integrity, they've always had my entire life. Their drive to make sure me and my siblings had what we needed. Both of my parents are truly determined, and that's where I think I get my determination from because of how they have that grind and that fire and that drive to be successful. I think it was contagious and spread to me and my siblings.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/5-questions-quinshon-judkins-browns-100222319.html

Is what you have been focusing on simply something you assumed about Judkins while having no idea of his upbringing?

According to the police report Judkins hit his woman with his hand closed. In my country it’s called a fist punch.

That’s not normal for a man who had a decent upbringing, so either there’s risk factors involved that we don’t know about like ADHD, mental illness, drugs, alcohol, problem with impulse control or similar and maybe there’re also more to his background story then what’s in the Beacon Journal.

Statistically there’s a very high probability that more women will come forward with similar stories about abusive or aggressive behavior and maybe even past incidents involving some sorts of violence.

Your in the minority as far as thinking Berry is a competent GM.
As a matter of fact the last GM the Browns had that showed
He had the traits of a legit GM was John Dorsey .
But its irrefutable. Andrew Berry is not GM material.
When Haslam eventually shows him the door, do you think AB is going
To get another GM job . Heck no.
But you keep on believing he is a competent GM .
But then again your the same guy that thought signing Dwayne Bowe
Was a great signing

I agree but unfortunately many Browns supporters are suffering from the Stockholm syndrome because of years of poorly results and that’s why just the slightest improvements lead them to sympathizing and defending him despite he’s underperforming in relationship to the recourses he has to his disposal.

His biggest shortcomings outside poor drafting and signings is his inability to change the culture, to create a healthy working environment.

The Browns are still suffering after five years from a weak leadership where there’s a lack of discipline and accountability. There’s no natural leaders in this organization. Is it the Haslam who steer the ship, is it Berry and what’s Stefanski’s responsibility in changing the culture?

Nobody can with certainty say who’s the real leader is and this open up conflicts and poor decision making.

This thread is originally about a misguided young man with serious problems but it all hang together one way or another.

This incident could be a coincidence where none can be hold accountable but without a stronger leadership it’s hard to change a weak culture. Until the Browns get a healthier working environment and a better culture we will continue to see more of these tragic incidents.

Same mechanisms but in a bigger scale as in many dysfunctional families.
The youngest suffers from the elders inability of prioritizing and leadership.

Once again, you referenced things that had nothing to do with Junkins because you jumped to conclusions before looking into his background. In your own words "when you were being specific"


What you did here was obvious.

I'm just wondering, you missed the boat on your diagnosis of Judkins and now you're trying to diagnose Browns fans as a whole? So can you please inform us as to which university you received your psychology degree from? Let me guess, you don't have a psychology degree but you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Am I right?

She called 9-1-1 for something that happened days earlier?

I don't think that's what she thinks it is.

I think he and stripper were roommates at BS University

Ball St? Boise St?

We’re on the same route as when we signed a certain quarterback from Houston.
Denial’s. Shift focus. Attack the poster instead of participating in a meaningful discussion.

If you actually care about the Browns you should demand answers and hold the leadership accountable about all the poor decisions they’ve made.

I’m not pre judging anyone in this case but statistically there’s a very high probability that this young man has two or more risk factors attached to him.

Could the Browns have foreseen this?

Statistically (remember the word statistically now so you don’t confuse my words as a fact) everything point of the direction of use of illegal substances . The question that interest me is if these risk factors where possible to know or this young man just become violent from one day to another?

No we're not. That's pure BS. There were clear warning signs about watson. What you call a meaningful discussion in this case has none of the signs you have even brought up. Trying to compare these two situations is ludicrous. To have a "meaningful discussion" you would first have to bring up meaningful points that apply to the situation at hand. You have done none of that.


I take each situation on a case by case basis. And in case you missed it, this is a thread about Judkins. I hated the watson signing. They should have seen the warning signs because they were clearly there. I don't know where the hell you were at the time but my posts spoke out strongly against it at the time. Can you even read my sig. on this board?

You're posting in a thread specifically about Judkins while bringing all these points that in noway apply to him, trying now to compare it to the watson situation and then claim you are " not pre judging anyone"? You must believe everyone who posts here fell off of the stupid truck but you.

The only issue I have with your post is that your demands are coming before enough info is available.

I tried looking, and I couldn't find any red flags published prior to the draft. So was he a ticking time bomb? Apparently(?)

Should Berry have known? That's even harder to answer.


I acknowledge that Berry continues to paint a picture in terms of player accountability/leadership with this coming on the heels of moving on from Watson. We don't yet know.

You have to investigate it in a serious light no matter what. The evidence of bruising, witness statements, the whole nine yards. It seemingly was enough to trigger an arrest. You have to remember, though, that in many states arrest is the preferred course of action and the bar for it is pretty low.

He will have to fight it out in court. That's really all there is to it. Unless she is looking for a civil settlement and then refuses to cooperate.

The easy part in a due diligence is to search for documented history and talk to people.
The difficult part is to evaluate risk factors. The more risk factors the greater risk, that goes without saying.

According to the CDC’s National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS) approximately 25% of all women have experienced severe physical violence by an intimate partner.
Almost 50% of all women have experienced physical aggression and 20% have been raped at least once in their lifetime.

These stats are crazy.

It’s also very rare that physical violence against a partner pop up out of nowhere.

Hitting someone means that the aggressor has to break a barrier, factors that often can change a person’s impulse control is use of alcohol, drugs or mental illness, or a combination of two or more factors. Almost every time when the police make a background check they find at least one or two risk factors.

So what young women (and serious NFL organizations) should look for is risk factors.
Too many risk factors should raise an immediate red flag and maybe then it’s better to walk away.

Statistically most men who have been arrested by the police has a history of past incidents, with that in mind it doesn’t look good for Judkins and there was probably known signs to see for those who had the courage and the willingness to dig deep.

I sincerely hope that this young man can come through this but from a statistical standpoint it doesn’t look good.

Enough! I keep reading your posts. You are incredibly judgmental and prescriptive in your desired outcomes.

The point is in the opener. Read and consider your statement. I care. So of whom must I demand answers? Name them and explain how you call them out in the process you require. How is that managed by fans?

And I will quit with this. You state we must hold "those" responsible accounts;e, I assume in some punitive ways that will punish them enough to force compliance according to your outcomes. Tell me what those measures are, those steps, and how they will impact those targeted. Less squealing, more specifics.

Not sure why a man needs to hit a woman to prove a point

If a woman is trying to harm or kill me, yes I'll protect myself

Jealousy, well putting a hand on someone.

Never seems to be the right answer.

Talk it out. No matter how hurtful it is for both parties.

Oh yes sir I will abide
Cause you set the parameters around here dont you .?
This a open forum for football talk .
Yet some of you take it too seriously.
Anyone who differs in your opinion, you take exception.
Like I said let me when Andrew Berry can actually build a winning
Roster.

Go back to the Bengals board

Results don’t lie!
Not one season, not five season, not even ten seasons.
I don’t need to say more if we talk about the leadership.

Andrew Berry!
The person in charge. The man responsible for the working environment. The man in charge of the draft process and signings.

There’s a law, follow it!
Hitting a person with your fist is a crime, hitting a woman with a fist is even worse, from a moral standpoint.
The police investigate it and the judge takes care of the punishment, anything else?

The Browns results speak for themselves. If you want improvements. Accountability.

The Browns working environment and the lack of accountability, it’s all connected. Results. Lack of discipline. Lack of respect.
If you want changes. Accountability.

Myles Garrett hit the Steelers quarterback with his helmet.
Myles was involved in a car accident.
Myles disrespected the organization when he demanded to be traded.
Where’s the accountability, where’s the respect?

If a star player can be disrespectful and then be rewarded ….. with a monster contract, it sends signals.

Deshaun Watson. Rejected the Browns in his initial valuation. Disrespected countless of women. Extremely bad publicity. Suspension. Reward. Monster contract.

Quinshon Judkins didn’t sign his rookie contract as far as I’m aware of. He wanted guaranteed money, correct?
He then hit his ex girlfriend with a closed hand according to the police report.
Now he’s facing legal actions, probably suspension and less money, in a worst case scenario his career is over.

Respect. Accountability. Culture. (said with the same emotional wibe and conviction as Colonel Nathan R. Jessup)

Do you see the correlation?

j/c:

Browns in no rush to sign Quinshon Judkins or get him to camp by Friday while they investigate his domestic incident

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...y-investigate-his-domestic-incident.html

Thank you professor Floquinho. You have tied Judkins into a profile of conduct, possible past of drug use and earlier of not having a positive role model in his life which is patently false.

None of which you have any evidence of exists with Judkins. You have droned on and on about how his past should have been investigated more thoroughly and talking about red flags while showing no signs of anything in his past that would have sent off any alarm bells. What you have posted is the very epitome of profiling a young man.

I think you and I are saying the same thing? I tried and couldn't find anything pre-draft (as well as the articles written after the arrest) that indicated there were any sorts of red flags attached to this guy.

Sensible take in the first breathe.
Finding visible red flags makes decisions so much easier, finding risk factors makes the process to land correctly so much harder.

If the Browns didn’t have a questionable record of bad decision making then this incident probably would be labeled as an anomaly, and nobody would care.

All NFL general managers make mistakes, some more and some less, that goes without saying.

Good leaders don’t repeat the same mistake again. Great leaders not only don’t repeat a mistake and learn, they reflect and do self studies, so they know how to navigate in the future around potential problematic situations.
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When it comes to the Browns it’s fair to ask if it’s the organization as a whole who never seems to learn from past mistakes or if the questionable decision making is connected to the general manager/head coach? It’s a never ending story with new problems. The Garrett situation x3. Hall. DSW x3. Flacco 2024. Sanders 2025. Cooper. Hunt. Chubb Landry. OBJ. Not to mention our first pick from 2018 x3-4, and I probably missed a couple of incidents that I have forget.

When do we label incident after incident as a pattern?
When do we hold someone accountable?
If an organization doesn’t change those in charge when things go repeatedly wrong the end result will not change.

To improve as a team we want better quality on the field but we don’t seem to want a better general manager when decision’s repeatedly turn out to be wrong.
Hmmm strange logic.

You label it that way when there were signs that were ignored. That doesn't apply here no matter how much you drone on and on about it. You ask questions when you have a reasonable basis to ask questions. That too does not apply in this situation.

From everything I've read there were no red flags on QJ. Seems to me it just could have been a situation where he lost his temper, and it got the best of him. It's not right to do what he did but it could happen to any of us. He'll have to deal with the consequences.

Many times we fail to look at or look for "the trigger" that is at the root of irrational behavior.

Alcohol and/or drugs affect the rational thought process, leading to moments such as a man punching his girl in the mouth with his closed fist.

The Browns and the NFL commissioner are going to attempt to teach Judkins the type of values and morals that he should have learned from his family.

Lesson #1, it is never ok for a boy/man to strike a girl/woman...

Do you have any evidence that drugs or alcohol were involved in this event taking place?

You must have done no more than skimmed this thread. Junkins plainly stated that both of his parents were an inspiration to him. That they were supportive and had inspired him with their intergrity.


Come on man. Sometimes people just screw up. That goes for people who come from the very best of families.

Not much as far as what I asked about. How do wed as fans impact and influence the FO and the team and the ownership of this franchise. I don't see much realistic leverage available to fans to hold them accountable and influence behavior. We have an idea as to whom we turn to. I am not arguing against being better as a benefit of improving. You certainly must have steps in mind that are not spelled out which are necessary to do so. I am not defendingQJ if he is wrong. But this incident will not be a vehicle hefty enough to right the culture IMO. It seems we can find tools as well as needs.

There is nothing in any of my posts that indicate whether "I think he did it or not". That's simply a figment of your imagination. I have no idea whether he did this or not. What I take objection to is the made up and fabricated reasons people are coming up with to explain why he did something they have no idea if he even did.

When you get a case like watson, when he has over 20 accusers it's easy to figure out they're not all just making it up. In this case it's a he said/she said. So I'm not going to jump to any conclusions either way. But that's beside the point. We all know, and I'm sure if you are willing to admit it, that you do to in fact know families that have children which are well adjusted without any major issues. But there's this "one kid of theirs".... You get the point it it happens more often than not.

You have insinuated that drugs and alcohol were involved with zero evidence that's the case. You the out right accused his parents of not teaching him any better which I provided evidence to the contrarry. Now you defend those statements with still having zero to base any of that own. That is in fact is what weak looks like.

I at least thought that having grown up amongst other people you would come to the realization that sometimes in their youth people do things there are no logical explanation for. Sometimes it's minor things and sometimes more serious. It may very well have nothing to do with alcohol or drugs. It very well have nothing to do with their parents or upbringing. It's just that sometimes young people just do stupid things. Often times that's just part of growing up.

But to try to lay blame and make accusations based on nothing of substance is something some people may find short sighted and judgemental.

I'm certainly that not only the Browns but the NFL as well will try to get him help. But then I never took exception with that portion of your post.

This?


That's a different matter all together.

There were some but not about him slapping women around.

Judkins teammates and coaches at Ole Miss weren't sad to see him leave. He was a complainer in the locker room, coaches' room, and huddle.

https://www.outkick.com/sports/jaxs...lip-to-slam-ole-miss-rb-leaving-the-team

Let’s get real, Pit!
It’s a huge difference to get a speeding ticket than to hit a woman with a fist. You know that.
Nobody suggests that his parents didn’t raised him the right way and even if they somehow neglected some parts he’s still responsible for his own actions.

What we’re saying is that some risk factors in specific cases can be outside someone’s control, like mental illness, PTSD or ADHD.
Drugs and using alcohol is in the beginning your own choice, later with an addiction it’s partly out of your own control.

All of this is common knowledge for most people but still too many rarely understand or accepts the bottom lying causes why, when and how these individuals screw up their life’s.

It’s hard to accept, even harder to forgive and almost impossible to once again love if we can’t understand and accept that the why is often a string of unlucky circumstances pared with underlying risk factors.

With all that said, and I’m most of the time one of the first to forgive, accept and move on, doing bad things must come with consequences so we can learn and do better in the future.

It’s here you and I differ. I put more blame on those in charge, in this case the Browns leadership.

This isn’t solely about this young man, it’s about lack of culture, bad decision making and poor recruitment in general.
Having a healthy culture, discipline and specific boundaries often prevent things like this to happen. Put young man with risk factors in the right environment and most of them thrive, grow and delivers way outside expectations.

Without these conditions some slide into old bad habits and get lost before you know it.

Finally, I’m 100% that Berry & Co do their best to avoid all this, but maybe they need to reevaluate their approach, because for many years it hasn’t worked properly.

I stole this from FB but it’s worth sharing!

During a financial crisis, Haruka Nishimatsu, the CEO of Japan Airlines, reduced his own salary instead of laying off employees. He earned less than some of his pilots, rode the bus to work, and ate in the same cafeteria as his staff. No private jets, no corner office with a view, no golden parachutes.

He even removed his office door to stay accessible to everyone.

Leadership isn't about titles or perks. It's about taking care of your people, especially when things get tough.


Lead by example.

Be first when others hesitate, be last when most fleeing.

If I was the Browns GM I would immediately take a flight down to his home, or where he’s staying. Offering my help, talk, share his burden and set a timeline and goal’s for the future, not only as a player but also as a human.

All Browns players will take notice when a leader goes outside his role and comfort zone , other NFL players will too take notice.

Being there when you’re at your lowest and offering company, help and show that you believe in him creates a bond that can last a lifetime.

Imagine the scen when he next time talk to his employees, his players, about doing the right thing and to help each other so we all can achieve success.

You can build a culture in many ways, I think this’s one of them.

That's nothing close to what you nor Damon have been saying. I'm fully aware there's a vast difference between a ticket and hitting a woman. That's why had you been paying any attention at all you would have seen this..............
This thread IS "solely about this young man". Trying to backtrack and claim your insinuations weren't directed towards this case in particular this late into the discussion is very transparent. Yet still you defend it.

pit...Judkins was arrested, charged and jailed for "misdemeanor domestic battery"...you do realize that..? I form my opinion and post based on the best information I can find...I did not make up or fabricate anything..!

This same information was available to "you" and it seems that you have a different opinion on this event based on "something".

OK..!



Quinshon Judkins allegations

Gilbert McGregor

July 15, 2025

The Sporting News
Judkins was arrested and charged with misdemeanor domestic battery on Saturday, July 12.

The alleged incident occurred on Monday, July 7, and has been called "delayed battery" as the arrest and charges came down days later. Judkins' attorney, David Weinstein, said the incident happened when Judkins and the victim were leaving an airport.

In the arrest report, the victim says Judkins "punched her in the mouth/chin area with a closed fist," in an argument upon leaving the airport. The report also states Judkins turned around while driving to strike her in the left arm and thigh.

Bruising in images shared with the FLPD is allegedly consistent with the victim's account of the incident. She did not go to the hospital, although she reportedly told police that she still was dealing with pain as a result of the incident, according to TMZ.

She stated that she did not initially contact 911 because "she felt bad due to the recent success and career of the defendant," adding that "she decided to contact Police on [July 12] after speaking with family & friends and coming to the realization something needed to be done."

The woman said that she and Judkins are in a relationship and lived together between May 2024 and December 2024, but did not have a relationship from December 2024 to June 2025.

Judkins and the woman visited South Florida "as friends," according to Weinstein. Court records revealed that the two stayed in Fort Lauderdale together for five days after the alleged incident, and they celebrated her birthday there.

The victim appeared to have injuries, according to the arrest affidavit. The incident report allegedly has photos of bruising.

Sunday, Judkins was released from jail on $2,500 bond.