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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
GOPers will soon be claiming Bill Clinton wrote the Epstein files.

so far its been Obama, Clinton (Hillary) and Biden? so why not

But the question is, if they wrote al the up, why not release it?


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
GOPers will soon be claiming Bill Clinton wrote the Epstein files.

and trump and epstein really never met each other
and all the flight logs were fake...
and the pictures were doctored
and there are no videos
and the girls who gave the testimony were dem plants

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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
GOPers will soon be claiming Bill Clinton wrote the Epstein files.

and trump and epstein really never met each other
and all the flight logs were fake...
and the pictures were doctored
and there are no videos
and the girls who gave the testimony were dem plants



It seems that MAGA is having a difficult time believing all of the claims, such as those listed above...





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Jeffrey Epstein in Tapes Released by Michael Wolff: 'I Was Donald's Closest Friend'


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Recently surfaced recordings reveal that Jeffrey Epstein claimed to be a close friend of President Donald Trump.

What Happened: These statements, made in 2017, offer insights into Epstein’s relationship with Trump and his alleged intimate knowledge of Trump’s sexual behaviors.

During the conversation with Michael Wolff, Epstein boasted about his close ties with Trump, even claiming that Trump’s first sexual encounter with his current wife Melania occurred on Epstein’s aircraft, reports The Daily Beast.

Recorded during the interview, these tapes are expected to reignite discussions about the character of the Republican candidate, especially his attitudes towards women, in the lead-up to the forthcoming election.

The tapes portray a multifaceted image of Trump, with Epstein describing him as “charming” and “fun”, while also alleging that Trump repeatedly cheated in his marriages.

Epstein suggested that Trump took pleasure in engaging in sexual activities with the wives of his closest friends. He further insinuated that Trump was essentially a man devoid of friends, incapable of showing kindness.

When asked by Wolff, "How do you know all this?" Epstein responded saying, "I was Donald's closest friend for 10 years."

Wolff, who was conducting research for his book “Fire and Fury” during the time of the interview, shared the tape with the Daily Beast. He claims to have up to 100 hours of recorded interviews with Epstein.

Trump’s team has dismissed the tapes as “false smears”. The tapes also shed light on the relationship between Epstein and Trump, two affluent men who frequently socialized together in New York and Atlantic City.

The tapes provide Epstein’s viewpoint on their relationship, a relationship that led one man to infamy, prison, and ultimately suicide, and the other to power, the Oval Office, and his own criminal conviction.

The tapes also contain allegations about Trump’s behavior towards women, which are likely to draw attention given their long-standing friendship and the numerous accusations of sexual misconduct against the former president.

Last week, the Justice Department announced that it will not release any more documents related to the case of Epstein. Epstein died by suicide in custody in 2019 while awaiting trial on sex trafficking and conspiracy charges.

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Keep Dan Bongino
Keep Kash Patel

Fire Pam Bondi and appoint Alex Jones as Attorney General!

Alex Jones? You must be trolling.

He is. Bravo, sir.


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For what it is worth Dailymail has a story this morning that Maxwell is willing to come and tell her story in front of Congress.
And the GOP has so far said No.

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Trump tells those focused on Epstein he doesn't want their support

President Donald Trump on Wednesday trashed many MAGA members, condemning their ongoing push for files related to Jeffrey Epstein and bemoaning that they are playing into Democrats’ hands.

The Democrats’ “new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘BS,’ hook, line, and sinker,” (of course he used the word and not the initials because he is so presidential) Trump posted on his Truth Social account. “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!”

Trump’s comments underscore the angst on the right over the Justice Department and FBI’s decision to withhold files related to Epstein, the disgraced mega-financier who pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting a minor for prostitution and was facing a slew of federal sex-trafficking charges when he killed himself in jail in 2019.

A Department of Justice memo last week– which ruled out foul play in Epstein’s death and claimed no existence of a “client list” – enraged and divided MAGA world after many in Trump’s orbit, including Attorney General Pam Bondi, FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino, teased big revelations and fanned conspiracy theories.

Conservative influencers including Megyn Kelly, Steve Bannon, and Trump’s daughter-in-law, Laura Trump, have called for more transparency in the case. Speaker Mike Johnson on Tuesday also called for the Department of Justice to release all of its information on Epstein.

Later on Wednesday, when asked during a bilateral meeting in the Oval Office if his post meant he was disavowing his supporters, the president said he had “lost a lot of faith in certain people.”

Trump continued to defend Bondi during the meeting and again downplayed the affair.

“She's done very good,” Trump said. “She says I gave you all the credible information, and if she finds any more credible information, she'll give that too. What more can she do than that?”

Trump’s latest post attempts to link the Epstein case to the investigation into Russian collusion during his first term, a signal that the president hopes supporters will interpret as tying to partisan hoaxes together.

“These Scams and Hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at,” Trump said in his post.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tells-those-focused-epstein-152751100.html

Of course he blames the democrats for a conspiracy theory his own supporters cooked up in the first place. When his own hand picked AG, Barr launched this investigation in the first place while he was president and admitting it's his own followers that he no longer wants the support of because they are the people raising hell over it.

A very stable genius indeed.

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Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), the top Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, said Thursday that the Treasury Department has a file on Jeffrey Epstein that could be used "as the foundation for a follow the money investigation" into the sex trafficking case.

"You can't run sex trafficking operation of this size without an enormous amount of money," said Wyden, who has been investigating finances related to Epstein.


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My question is: Why hasn't that been done already?

I don't care about any list.
Just because a name is on some list, it proves nothing.

But he was a known pediphile.
This should have been automatic


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My response: Nail them, all of them. I don't care who it is. Trump, Biden, Obama, Clinton..............whoever, any hollywood "stars", whoever.

But in reality, what we're dealing with is people in power, and they wield that power. It stinks, I know. Cover ups exist.

My last question is, if Wyden has a file, what's in it, and why has it not been made public?

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Originally Posted by Jester
My question is: Why hasn't that been done already?

I don't care about any list.
Just because a name is on some list, it proves nothing.

But he was a known pediphile.
This should have been automatic

It seems obvious that there is compromising information contained in that data that would compromise a fair amount of wealthy/political elites. I would not be surprised to find either Trump or Clinton tied closely into that. Trump’s behavior toward all this, especially the whole gaslighting thing about Obama and Biden and whoever else being the ones who made up the list, only implicates him further in my mind. The fact he’s willing to go to war with his rabid base about it raises my eyebrow that much more.


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The amount of smoke is forest fire worthy.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Originally Posted by Jester
My question is: Why hasn't that been done already?

I don't care about any list.
Just because a name is on some list, it proves nothing.

But he was a known pediphile.
This should have been automatic

It seems obvious that there is compromising information contained in that data that would compromise a fair amount of wealthy/political elites. I would not be surprised to find either Trump or Clinton tied closely into that. Trump’s behavior toward all this, especially the whole gaslighting thing about Obama and Biden and whoever else being the ones who made up the list, only implicates him further in my mind. The fact he’s willing to go to war with his rabid base about it raises my eyebrow that much more.

There is an abundance of evidence that both trump and clinton used to hang out with epstein.

That does not mean that either "partook in the frolicking".
But Regardless of who they are (and others), this needs to be thoroughly investigated.
IMO, It's a travesty that it has not been thoroughly invested already


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Yeah I agree.

What we do know are this:

1. Epstein was running a horrific sex/pedophile crime ring.

2. Epstein was tied into with a lot of elites.

3. Clinton and Trump are known philanderers who have a penchant for young women.

4. Clinton and Trump used to hang out with Epstein.

5. Trump has done a VERY bizarre 180 on the whole Epstein thing, and has become increasingly combative on the matter, now toward his own base, even.

6. Clinton - to my knowledge - has been silent on the whole controversy.

Those points, combined with the countless other controversies surrounding the whole affair demonstrate that a whole lot more ish needs to come to light on the whole thing.


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I agree with those that say they don't care who is on the list. Pedophiles should be exposed regardless. What I do know is who claimed they had the list that is now refusing to provide that list and made up excuses to do so. I also know who is throwing a tantrum about it to the extent they rebuked their own voting base over it.


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5. Trump has done a VERY bizarre 180 on the whole Epstein thing, and has become increasingly combative on the matter, now toward his own base, even.

IMO, it's not all that bizarre. He used the Epstein thing as a tool in his ongoing culture war. Now that he won the election, it's no longer useful and he's trying to make it go away. The problem is that him and several of his own appointees threw too much gas on the fire... and the issue is now self-sustaining.

The hilarious thing is that he's trying to do the same thing he ripped the Dems for doing when they were trying to make it go away. Regardless of the truth behind Epstein connections and his death, I just find it hilarious that Trump is getting burned in a fire he himself stoked.


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Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey and prosecutor of Jeffrey Epstein, is fired

Comey, who had worked in the U.S. attorney’s office for nearly a decade, prosecuted both Jeffrey Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/16/maurene-comey-fired-doj-00458921

We all know trump hates James Comey. Yet his daughter had thus far not been a target. The timing could be a coincidence but I find it very odd and somewhat suspicious that she was involved with both the Epstein and Maxwell convictions and now, now that the whole Epstein fiasco is blowing up in trump's face, that this is the time they decided to fire her.

While it's certainly just my opinion, it seems the trump revenge tour is still rolling along.


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I still find it bizarre and this is why: I agree he oftentimes will take a Trojan horse approach to the maximum level in order to get votes. Other politicians across the spectrum do it as well, but he does it to the Nth degree (build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it, end UKR war in 24 hours, immediately bring down prices, etc.).

When he gets into office and people ask about the campaign promises, he usually hems and haws or walks back all or parts of the promise. More evasive and deflecting than anything else.

On the Epstein stuff, he was straight up combative, defensive and inflammatory. It was like someone touched a nerve.


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Trump Drawings Resurface After President Claims ‘I Never Wrote a Picture in My Life’

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Several drawings made by President Donald Trump in the 1990s and early 2000s resurfaced on Thursday after the president claimed to have “never wrote a picture in my life.”

The president made the claim after a Wall Street Journal report alleged that Trump had written a birthday letter to the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein in 2003, which included a drawing of a naked woman, complete with pubic hair formed out of Trump’s signature.

“This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” said Trump in response to the report. “I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women.”

Despite his claim to have “never wrote a picture” in his life, Trump has sketched a number of drawings over the years, including a drawing of the Manhattan skyline dated 2004 – just one year after he is accused of drawing the naked woman for Epstein.

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The 2004 Manhattan drawing was reportedly sketched by Trump for a charity art sale before being put up for auction again in 2019.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom posted a photo of the drawing on social media, Thursday, along with the caption, “I never wrote a picture in my life.”
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Donald Trump's drawings under scrutiny over Epstein birthday letter

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A number of drawings produced by President Donald Trump have resurfaced after it was reported that he sent a "bawdy" letter and sketch to Jeffrey Epstein to mark his 50th birthday.

In response to a Wall Street Journal report that he sent a letter and sketch of a naked woman to Epstein in 2003, five years before the financier was convicted of child sexual abuse, Trump said, "I never wrote a picture in my life."

The Wall Street Journal declined to comment when contacted by Newsweek, while the White House said it had nothing to add beyond Trump's public statements.

Why It Matters

In recent weeks, Trump has faced a backlash from a section of his base after his Justice Department published a memo saying Epstein died by suicide while in federal custody in 2019. The agency also concluded that there was no evidence Epstein possessed an "incriminating 'client list.'"

The president has since blamed Democrats for what he calls the "Jeffrey Epstein Hoax," which he has branded a "SCAM." Conspiracy theorists have long suggested that Epstein kept a list of clients involved in child abuse whom he blackmailed and that he could have been murdered to protect powerful individuals—claims the FBI and Department of Justice deny.


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Looks like Trump lied about his ability to "draw" or "sketch" pictures, such as the birthday greeting of a naked woman that Trump made for Epstein on his 50th birthday.

MAGA is going to have a hard time getting the truth from Trump..!


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Anyone who believes this man is capable of telling the truth any time he opens his KFC hole in living in denial.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Anyone who believes this man is capable of telling the truth any time he opens his KFC hole in living in denial.

The #1 excuse used by Trump supports in our area...THEY ALL LIE..!

...meaning, Dems lie too, so it's ok if Trump lies..!

You can't fix "stupid"..!


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Johnson v. Trump & Epstein - FILING

Johnson's video Testimony

Trump Epstein Rape Lawsuit Affidavit

Articleon Johnson case

Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal - Article

Then there are the various comments about his daughter - the grabbing girls vaginas without consent - there's the walking through under age girls dressing rooms at pagents. . . . it's a very long list of 'circumstancial' evidence. Murica !


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Trump once hosted party for ‘young women’ where Epstein was the only guest, says report
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Donald Trump once hosted a party with “young women” where the disgraced late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein "was the only other guest,” according to a report.

The president is under pressure to release all files relating to the Epstein case, which he has so far refused to do despite a 2024 election promise.

The anecdote was part of a New York Times piece on Saturday entitled “Inside the Long Friendship Between Trump and Epstein.”

It states that “For nearly 15 years, the two men socialized together in Manhattan and Palm Beach, Fla., before a falling out that preceded Mr. Epstein’s first arrest.”

The piece goes on to describe Trump hosting “a party at Mar-a-Lago for young women in a so-called calendar girl competition, Mr. Epstein was the only other guest.”

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It states that the party was organized by Florida businessman George Houraney.

“Mr. Houraney recalled being surprised that Mr. Epstein was the only other person on the guest list,” it states.

“I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s,” Mr. Houraney told the newspaper about the party in 2019. “You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’”

It comes just days after a bombshell report by The Wall Street Journal, which a bawdy message and doodle from Trump among an album of letters celebrating Epstein’s 50th birthday.

The president has denied that the drawing or letter was his doing and is now suing the Journal, News Corp, Rupert Murdoch, and two journalists.

On Friday, Attorney General Pam Bondi filed a motion in New York “to release grand jury transcripts associated with” the Epstein case.

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I'm not sure the Johnson woman is making that up or not. Seems a bit contrived. But I keep going back to that movie "Eyes Wide Shut" with Tom Cruise and it just makes me wonder! Is this life imitating art?

anyway, if they would just open the files like they promised, all of this can be dispensed with in a hurry.

They promised to release them,, Trump at one point demanded their release and now, there is nothing to release. Just ain't buying into it.


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I'm not sure the Johnson woman is making that up or not. Seems a bit contrived.

If this were a one-off accusation, maybe we could treat it in isolation. But it’s not.

There’s E. Jean Carroll’s credible rape allegation—which a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation.
There’s the infamous “grab them by the p**”** tape—an open admission of sexual assault.
There are credible reports of him walking into underage girls' dressing rooms during beauty pageants.
He’s made disturbing comments about his own daughter—saying he’d date her, commenting on her body, and even joking about their sex lives.
He cheated on his pregnant wife with Stormy Daniels—then tried to cover it up with hush money.
And let’s not forget: he was close with Jeffrey Epstein for over a decade—attending parties, flying on his plane, and appearing in court documents during a time when Epstein was trafficking underage girls.

None of this is speculation. Much of it is on record, in court, or from Trump’s own mouth.

The pattern is undeniable. The man has a long, troubling history with women—especially young women. The “circumstantial” evidence isn’t just a pile—it’s a mountain.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c23g5xpggzmo

Trump suing Murdoch for $10bn. It'd be interesting to see Murdoch truly spilt with Trump. His media empire turning on Trump would be the end of him.


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I'm not sure the Johnson woman is making that up or not. Seems a bit contrived.

If this were a one-off accusation, maybe we could treat it in isolation. But it’s not.

There’s E. Jean Carroll’s credible rape allegation—which a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation.
There’s the infamous “grab them by the p**”** tape—an open admission of sexual assault.
There are credible reports of him walking into underage girls' dressing rooms during beauty pageants.
He’s made disturbing comments about his own daughter—saying he’d date her, commenting on her body, and even joking about their sex lives.
He cheated on his pregnant wife with Stormy Daniels—then tried to cover it up with hush money.
And let’s not forget: he was close with Jeffrey Epstein for over a decade—attending parties, flying on his plane, and appearing in court documents during a time when Epstein was trafficking underage girls.

None of this is speculation. Much of it is on record, in court, or from Trump’s own mouth.

The pattern is undeniable. The man has a long, troubling history with women—especially young women. The “circumstantial” evidence isn’t just a pile—it’s a mountain.

I'm aware of all of that, Just saying while listening to her, she wasn't convincing. But I honestly don't know. What I do know is that over 1000 girls have come forward to complain or at least admit to Trump and Epstiens actions so my guess is it's as real as it could possibly be. With that, why would MAGA want this all released? Is it because they think its going to tell a different story. one that Trump and MAGA has been touting. That is that Democrats are Pedos etc...


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House GOP blocks Dem maneuver to force release of Epstein files

House Republicans on Monday night voted against attaching a Democratic amendment to landmark cryptocurrency legislation that would force the Justice Department to release the Jeffrey Epstein files.

Why it matters: It's the outcome Democrats anticipated, and one they plan to gleefully cite as President Trump continues to grapple with the MAGA fallout over the DOJ's handling of the documents.

"The question with Epstein is: Whose side are you on?" Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), the author of the Epstein measure, told Axios ahead of the vote.
"Are you on the side of the rich and powerful, or are you on the side of the people?" he said, promising to introduce the amendment "again and again and again."

What happened: The House Rules Committee, which prepares legislation for votes on the House floor, voted 5 to 6 against attaching Khanna's amendment to a procedural measure related to the GENIUS Act and a defense funding bill.

The measure would have forced Attorney General Pam Bondi to publish all documents related to Epstein on a "publicly accessible website" within 30 days of procedural measure being enacted.
Republicans said the amendment was not pertinent to the GENIUS Act, which would create the first regulatory framework for stablecoins, or the defense funding bill.

Yes, but: In a rare move, Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) crossed over and voted with the panel's four Democrats in favor of attaching the amendment.

He told Axios earlier on Monday: "The public's been asking for it. I think there are files. All of a sudden not to have files is a little strange. We'll see how it plays out. ... I think the president will do the right thing."
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), the other right-wing member of the panel who occasionally breaks with his party, did not vote.

What they're saying: "I want to know what the hell is in these files," said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), the top Democrat on the Rules Committee, arguing in favor of the resolution.

"This is about trust. Republicans said, 'Trust us. Vote for us and we will release these files.' Well, here we are — they're backtracking," McGovern added.
"I think most of us believe what's appropriate will be released when it is time for the president to release it," Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.), the chair of the Rules Committee, said after the vote.

Zoom in: McGovern also tried to ram through Rep. Marc Veasey's (D-Texas) five-page resolution demanding that the administration release the Epstein files and that the FBI release a report on "any delays, suppression or destruction of evidence" related to the files.

Norman voted with Republicans against that measure, arguing that the Rules Committee "isn't the body to do this." It failed in a 4 to 8 vote.
"It will be borne out by the legal authorities and by the public," Norman said. "We're talking about crypto, Jim. We're talking about regulations."

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans

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Johnson shuts door on House vote before September on releasing Epstein files

Speaker Mike Johnson on Monday said he does not plan to allow votes on any measures related to the Jeffrey Epstein case in the House’s final week in Washington before a weekslong recess, despite intense pressure from some of his own GOP members to go on the record on the issue.

Some of President Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters in Congress have been pressing party leaders to allow for a vote to show they support transparency around the Epstein saga — an issue that continues to animate the MAGA base even as Trump has repeatedly sought to blame Democrats for fanning the flames.

The House forcing the Trump administration to turn over materials against its will would represent a remarkable rebuke of the president by his base. But the push has shown little forward momentum among the party’s leadership on Capitol Hill.

Johnson told CNN on Monday the full House would not vote on a pending measure from members of his own party – a non-binding resolution calling for the release of additional Epstein files – before the chamber’s August recess, which is slated to begin at week’s end.

“My belief is we need the administration to have the space to do what it is doing, and if further congressional action is necessary or appropriate, then we’ll look at that, but I don’t think we’re at that point right now, because we agree with the president,” he said.

As part of a deal to approve the White House’s rescissions package last week, Johnson reached an accord with GOP holdouts that allowed the House Rules Committee to advance that non-binding resolution calling for the Epstein files release. But it is unclear if that measure will make it to the House floor, with Johnson firmly standing behind Trump on the matter.

“There is no daylight between the House Republicans … the House and the president on maximum transparency,” Johnson said, adding that Trump wants “all the credible files” on Epstein to be released and asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce grand jury testimony related to the case and “all of that is in process right now.”

Still, a bipartisan group of House members — led by Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie — is seeking to circumvent Johnson and force a vote on a separate bill calling for the release of the files. Massie will need a majority of House members to sign on to what’s known as a discharge petition to force a floor vote.

That measure wouldn’t be considered by the full House until after Labor Day at the earliest if Massie is successful.

Johnson’s leadership team had been privately signaling they would not bring up any Epstein measures this week, two Republicans familiar with the matter told CNN.

Enough GOP support secured to force vote

Ten House Republicans have now signed onto Massie’s measure – a level of GOP support that would trigger a full vote by the GOP-controlled House on the measure if all Democrats supported it, as expected. But don’t expect a new tranche of documents to immediately be made public.

A vote to compel the full House to consider the effort can’t come until after Labor Day at the earliest when lawmakers return from their five-week summer recess. That’s because Massie and California Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna are using a discharge petition.

That procedural maneuver requires seven legislative days before House lawmakers can formally collect the necessary signatures. Once they prove they have support from 218 members, it would force party leaders to bring it to the floor.

Trump’s attorney general has asked for grand jury material to be made public – which also is likely to be a slow-moving effort, and one that requires court approval. But the Massie and Khanna measure goes significantly further, requiring the Trump administration to release “all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials” related to Epstein within 30 days.

It would also require the White House to release a “list of all government officials and politically exposed persons named or referenced in the released materials” — a list that Trump’s base has been demanding.

Khanna previously told CNN’s Jake Tapper that he would deliver “all 212 Democrats” on the measure. While many Democrats previously decried the promotion of conspiracy theories about Epstein, they have in recent days pushed for greater transparency, arguing Trump is trying to protect himself and aiming to further drive a wedge between Trump and his base.

“Why do we think President Joe Biden or President Barack Obama’s names are being invoked because Donald Trump is running scared, and the Trump administration is running scared. What are they hiding from the American people, release the files so that the American people can make a decision on their own,” House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries told reporters during a press conference Monday.

With all Democrats behind the effort, 10 Republicans would be more than enough to meet the necessary 218 threshold. Along with Massie, the Republicans already on board are: Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Tim Burchett of Tennessee, Eric Burlison of Missouri, Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, Eli Crane of Arizona, Cory Mills of Florida, Tom Barrett of Michigan, Max Miller of Ohio and Nancy Mace of South Carolina.

“I think momentum will build for transparency. I don’t think this is going to go away,” Massie told CNN on Monday. “And I think when we return in September, we’ll get phase two of the Epstein files.”

The move, of course, could end as many things in Congress do – with a lot of talk, a little corresponding action. Last week, Republicans held up a vote to approve a $9 billion package of spending cuts to foreign aid and public broadcasting, something Trump wanted, as they debated what to do on the Epstein case. They settled for the non-binding resolution calling for the release of additional files – which doesn’t immediately force any action and to which Johnson has been noncommittal.

Even continued talk of the Epstein case, though, is likely to irk Trump. Over the weekend, the president seemed to acknowledge the intractability of the subject as he noted he had ordered the release of grand jury materials.

“With that being said, and even if the Court gave its full and unwavering approval, nothing will be good enough for the troublemakers and radical left lunatics making the request. It will always be more, more, more. MAGA!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

‘Sunlight is a good medicine’

But a chorus of conservative and moderate Republicans – including some of the president’s closest allies, like Greene – ratcheted up their demands for the release of more information on Monday.

“People want the information. They don’t want things covered up especially when it comes to the most well-known convicted pedophile in modern day history,” Greene, told CNN, noting that the “highest volume” of recent constituent calls to her office have been about Epstein.

Responding to Trump’s frustration with even his own supporters for not moving on from Epstein, Greene said she really likes Trump and thinks “he has a great pulse on things,” but “on this issue the American people really want to see transparency.”

“I think sunlight is a good medicine,” Rep. Don Bacon, a swing district Republican who recently announced his retirement, concurred, telling CNN he would vote for a standalone bill to press the administration to release more Epstein information. “I think there’s too much conspiracy theory and it’s just better to put light on it.”

Bacon said he thinks Trump administration “misled” Americans into believing there was more to the Epstein case, adding, “It’s a good lesson for everybody. It’s better to keep your powder dry and don’t speak until you’ve got the facts.”

The Justice Department announced earlier this month that there is no Epstein “client list,” even after Bondi teased having that information on her desk, and that the accused sex trafficker was not murdered in jail.

The Nebraska Republican noted that Congress has oversight authority and “those who are interested” would have an opportunity to question Bondi when she appears before committees overseeing the Department of Justice.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/21/politics/epstein-files-house-vote-gop-johnson-massie


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That’s a bad look. The resolution wasn’t even binding. It was symbolic most likely but they couldn’t even get that on the floor?


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Alex Acosta cut Epstein a sweet deal in 2005 and signed a co conspirator immunity deal. Bondi was Florida AG for 8 years after and didn’t do one thing on this case didn’t talk to one victim. Now, she gets the AG job under trump. She isn’t going to do anything for the victims. Neither is Todd Blanche.

Honestly, they need to dig into the co-conspirator list and see who/why these sleazes being protected. Release that list. And maybe now, talk to some victims.

I also think they are rushing to talk to Maxwell to see what she is going to say. She says the right things, she may get out of jail yet-or spend the rest of her life in there

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What are they hiding?

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Man they are working overtime to stop that list from getting out. I mean, 5 months ago, there was a list on Bondi's desk, then last week, there wasn't a list, now they don't even want to entertain the thought of releasing the list that apparently did exist and they didn't and now maybe it does so lets hide it.


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rofl dude …. Everything!


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I have to take note that the answer to Pizzagate, the scenario that there are “deep state” government officials engaged in pedophilla may have its answer in Trump and Epstein.

Hillary has to be bemused. Bill may be concerned.

Sometimes being a billionaire has its own unique issues.


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...e-over-lack-of-epstein-files/ar-AA1J5Jwc

The founder of a violent militia group who was pardoned for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack by President Donald Trump, warned that Trump faces “trouble” over not releasing documents related to the Jeffrey Epstein case.

Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the far-right group the Oath Keepers, has joined a growing chorus of MAGA voices who have expressed anger that Trump hasn’t released more information about Epstein, the disgraced financier who allegedly killed himself in 2019 before he was set to face trial for sex crimes.

“I believe 90% of his own base understands that Epstein was up to something and we know that’s the tip of the iceberg,” Rhodes told a crowd at a Comfort Inn in Texas last week, the Daily Beast first reported on Tuesday.

Rhodes was referring to Attorney General Pam Bondi’s announcement earlier this month that documents related to Epstein ― including potential information on his co-conspirators ― don’t exist. Trump, a longtime friend of Epstein, has blamed Democrats over what he calls a “hoax.”

“It’s really disheartening to see President Trump just declare that to be a hoax,” Rhodes said. “I don’t think it is. And I think it’s going to cause him trouble in his own base. It already is.”

Rhodes was sentenced to 18 years in prison for his role in the Jan. 6 attack and was pardoned by Trump along with more than 1,500 other rioters. Rhodes and his fellow Oath Keepers had planned to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s election by any means necessary, including using an arsenal of guns that they brought from across the country if Trump had invoked the Insurrection Act that day.

Trump falsely claimed his poll numbers have “gone up, significantly” following the lack of Epstein files.

“My Poll Numbers within the Republican Party, and MAGA, have gone up, significantly, since the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax was exposed by the Radical Left Democrats and, just plain ‘troublemakers,’” Trump wrote Sunday on his social media platform Truth Social.

Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) canceled upcoming House votes on Tuesday and is sending lawmakers home early for a five-week recess to block a bipartisan effort to force a vote on releasing files on Epstein.

On Tuesday, Trump again downplayed his role with Epstein.

“We had the Greatest Six Months of any President in the History of our Country, and all the Fake News wants to talk about is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.


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Originally Posted by WooferDawg
I have to take note that the answer to Pizzagate, the scenario that there are “deep state” government officials engaged in pedophilla may have its answer in Trump and Epstein.

Hillary has to be bemused. Bill may be concerned.

Sometimes being a billionaire has its own unique issues.

This is getting into my bias, but nothing would make me happier than to see just a culling of elites from all this. All these people who have escaped accountability for decades. Clinton, Dershowitz, current POTUS, royals, foreign ministers, wealth elites, etc. It is absolutely a pipe dream, but I can still dream...


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