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It's a fickle crowd. Some, not that I'm naming names here, but they will find a reason to ride his jock strap no matter what he does. Easy camp? "Camp cupcake!"

Tough camp and a lot of players injured? "He should have protected those players more! This isn't the regular season!"

Same as it ever was.


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I dont know how Andrew Berry has been able to keep his job .
He inherited a playoff quality roster from Dorsey and now if the Browns happen
To play " toygher" in 2025 that's good enough for them . Most NFL owners would have fired theirs GMs
If they had the draft history Berry has produced .Anthony Schwartz over Ar-mon St. Brown? Jedrick Willis was graded higher than Tristen Wirfs ? Berry has drafted no elite players
In his tenure . You cant win without elite or even difference makers at that .

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https://x.com/profootballtalk/status/1951392755365847049?s=12 Browns claim OT Sebastian Gutierrez off waivers

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The Browns have claimed offensive tackle Sebastian Gutierrez off waivers, the team announced Friday.

The 49ers cut him Thursday.

Gutierrez officially is in his first NFL season out of Minot State.

The Broncos signed him as an undrafted free agent in 2022 and also has spent time with the Patriots, Raiders, Chiefs, Browns, 49ers and Colts. He was on the practice squad of the 49ers, Browns and Colts last season.

Gutierrez has appeared in two career games — one for the Raiders in 2022 and one for the 49ers last season. He has played three offensive snaps and seven on special teams.


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Browns claim OT Kilian Zierer off waivers

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The Browns claimed offensive tackle Kilian Zierer off waivers, the team announced Sunday. The Falcons waived Zierer, a native of Munich, Germany, last week.

The Browns also announced they waived fullback Troy Hairston and wide receiver Winston Wright.

Zierer did not begin playing football until the age of 16, but with a wingspan of 83 5/8 to go with his 6-foot-7, 304-pound frame, Zierer earned a college scholarship.

He played at College of the Canyons and was the No.1 JUCO prospect at his position, according to Rivals, when he signed with Auburn. Zierer started every game at left tackle for the Tigers in 2022.

He signed with the Texans as an undrafted free agent in 2023 but went on injured reserve late in training camp with an ankle injury. In 2024, Zierer spent the season on the Texans’ practice squad as part of the International Player Pathway Program.

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Correction: RB Ahamni Marshall has been turning heads.

With QJ - those initials plus his alleged woman-beating thing, make me think of OJ - out, for who knows how long, it’s an opportunity for guys like Marshall.

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Originally Posted by lampdogg
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good. We are going to be very bad, but at least maybe a little tougher

I don’t think we’ll be bad. We might not contend for the playoffs but we won’t be a 3- win football team.
I'd say we won't win 6 games, which is bad IMO. Maybe we won't be horrendous lol


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
It's a fickle crowd. Some, not that I'm naming names here, but they will find a reason to ride his jock strap no matter what he does. Easy camp? "Camp cupcake!"

Tough camp and a lot of players injured? "He should have protected those players more! This isn't the regular season!"

Same as it ever was.

Sounds a bit like politics, right?

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I don't discuss that topic in the Pure Football forum. This isn't the place for it.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I don't discuss that topic in the Pure Football forum. This isn't the place for it.

I know. My point was ignoring things about one's own side, while pointing it out among others.

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With injuries to Pickett and Gabriel They need someone to play Friday with Sanders


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Might as well sign Kevin Hogan . The Browns QB situation is beyond laughable
Now. 6 QBs on the roster . Unprecedented. This offense will take 5 weeks to score 21 pts in a game

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We are just a mess at QB again lol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We are just a mess at QB again lol

Hamstrings pulled, sore shoulders all with 4 QBs splitting minimal reps in just 10 practices to sort out a "throw the kitchen sink at the wall" QB competition.

We're back baby!

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6 QBs… Nobody able to compete with Flacco who should be retired. Hopefully the games will be watchable for a while before the tanking.

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Brian sipe is still in good shape. He is only 35 years older than Flacco wink


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Originally Posted by OCD
6 QBs… Nobody able to compete with Flacco who should be retired. Hopefully the games will be watchable for a while before the tanking.
I have a feeling we will be in "meaningless game" mode by week 5


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We do have a brutal schedule especially the first 6 games or so. By the time our bye week comes around we could easily be 2-6 or 1-7. Not being a pessimist just a realist.

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You are too generous. SMH

I am thinking we are there at 0-3.


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Yeah, we don't have many wins on that schedule


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We are just a mess at QB again lol

Hamstrings pulled, sore shoulders all with 4 QBs splitting minimal reps in just 10 practices to sort out a "throw the kitchen sink at the wall" QB competition.

We're back baby!

In all seriousness, I was looking at the QB stat tracker, and it looks like each QB is getting very different work (Gabriel had far and away the highest volume of tracked throws, Sanders was only ahead of Pickett, but that was after he was held out for the weekend).

What caught my eye was Sanders' shoulder soreness even though his workload seemed relatively light. I wonder if he's really trying to put extra zip on each ball and that kinda got to him. Flacco's total attempt count was higher than I would like it to be.


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and the fact that KS said a decision would be "very soon" basically means it's Flacco


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Woods has been an enigma/invisible man much like glenn Winston


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We are just a mess at QB again lol

Hamstrings pulled, sore shoulders all with 4 QBs splitting minimal reps in just 10 practices to sort out a "throw the kitchen sink at the wall" QB competition.

We're back baby!

In all seriousness, I was looking at the QB stat tracker, and it looks like each QB is getting very different work (Gabriel had far and away the highest volume of tracked throws, Sanders was only ahead of Pickett, but that was after he was held out for the weekend).

What caught my eye was Sanders' shoulder soreness even though his workload seemed relatively light. I wonder if he's really trying to put extra zip on each ball and that kinda got to him. Flacco's total attempt count was higher than I would like it to be.

Sanders has been getting a lot of extra throws in before and after practice. He has been reported to be the last out there after practice.


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