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Knew he wasn’t making the team…. He was the odd man out if we kept three…. Glad we got something for him…

Thanks for the memories, Kenny!

Gabriel now the back-up and Sheduer can run the scout team.

The Dangerous one was emphatic the Browns were keeping four players. Oops.

I believed it. Well at least until I heard the Raiders needed a backup because of injury to O’Connell

Thanks alot . I just spit out the water I was drinking.

I can't stand that guy. We have so many bad journalists/analysts covering our team.

It looks like Shedeur's performance Saturday moved him up a notch on the depth chart.

Bad journalists covering bad football. All Pickett did waa take snaps
Away from the young QBs .

it was just a matter of time .. surprised we got a 5th

Well they got their fifth round pick back at least. I guess we get stuck with Watson on the depth chart when he comes back =(

It's also probably the only fair thing to do for Pickett.

Sadly that doesn’t narrow it down in my mind. Which one is the Dangerous One?

Darryl?

The talking heads on NFL network, Good Morning Football, will have another angle on the Cleveland QB drama. They kept asking “what are the Browns doing with 4 quarterback.??!!”

They need to get off SS’s jockstrap. They embarrass themselves.

Gabriel has outplayed Sanders, he deserves the backup role. Prime Time’s son looked like a true rookie against the Rams, DG made some nice throws and doesn’t seem to get rattled. Eyes downfield, throws with timing and accuracy.

He reminds me, a little, of Doug Flutie. Someone else made that comparison awhile back. Might have been Peen.

I'm surprised, I didn't think we'd trade him.

Due to his injury Pickett couldn’t get any traction at camp. Wish him well. He’s a better QB than Sanders right now but I understand the trade.

I wish we had kept Pickett.

He was always the odd man out… Flacco was the vet starter we were going with… Gabriel and Sanders are rookies that the FO is gonna want to keep on the roster at least a year… Picket didn’t have much of a chance and the injury didn’t help him…

Yes.

It was all about the injury.

I'll take Vegas' 5th vs Detroit's 5th

Except the pick 6 and the fumble!!!! Can't forget those two pesky facts.

Are we in a better position to win this year with the Raiders 5th Rd pick next year and SS? OR Pickett and no SS?

I'm just curious...

Why hasn't anyone talked about Blake Whiteheart's alligator arms? The throw was catchable by him, but he pulled his arms back last minute and Makuba played him on the throw instead of Johnson. Let's talk about the TE pulling his arms back and the WR not even attempting to take down CB post INT.

Now, anytime there is that much traffic, don't throw the ball. Gabriel isn't innocent here, but that pull back of the arms caused this particular INT.

Honestly, after the first two weeks, I have Shedeur and Dillon neck and neck. Week 3 was a bust... not enough talent on the field to evaluate anything. Practice is a better indication than that.

If Pickett or SS were playing, things would have had to have gone very wrong. At that point, you're looking towards next year.

I get that people are used to us using an alarming number of QBs now, but that's not normal. We might be in better position this year if we got rid of both and rostered players at other positions more likely to see the field if things are going well.

Teams have to balance now and the future. They decided Kenny wasn't top 2 now, and Sanders had more upside for the future. QB3 isn't really a now position. Yet, when QB1 is old, getting QBs (potential future starter and backup) acclimated to the system makes sense. Going with the one on a cheap rookie deal going forward makes sense there, too.

I would've liked to get a better look at him, but I'm not going to sweat it. I like the idea of more practice snaps going to Gabriel/Sanders.

Honestly, I think Johnson quitting on his route letting the DB play both potential pass catchers and gumming up the spacing which led Whiteheart to pull up was the bigger problem. Don't get me wrong, Whiteheart should have at least tried to catch it, but if Johnson runs his route right, the DB isn't there.

I hear the Gabriel shouldn't have thrown it, but he was expecting Johnson to keep running his route correctly. If Johnson does, the DB can't go through/by him to get where he ended up. QBs generally aren't reading the entire field all the time and the ball doesn't travel instantaneously. They are going through their keys/reads one by one and counting on their guys to be where they are supposed to be. It appears that the DBs assignment was to cover the deepest guy. When that guy doesn't go as deep as he is supposed to taking the DB with him, It can make the right read "wrong."

I also think this move speaks to where this team is this year. It's not as urgent for us to have a strong backup QB because we're focused on building the roster and opening a window.

Honestly, I think they felt both rookies were at or above Pickett's level. If either rookie didn't show up in training camp. It isn't out of the realm of possibilities that they would cut a 3rd rounder. Much more common and easy to cut a 5th rounder. I don't think they deemed Pickett a better prospect and just said, let's keep the rookies since they are rookies.

My hope is Flacco stays healthy and we are able to string some wins early in the season. If either of those don't hold true, I wouldn't be against seeing Gabriel around week 5 or 6. If he fails for 2-3 weeks straight, bring Shedeur in after the bye.

I think both have looked like rookies, at times. If we thought ourselves contenders, we'd have a vet backup on the roster.

To your point, having both rookies have at least 1 decent outing on their stat sheets through preseason has got to be very comforting.

This is likely accurate. The Browns released Johnson..

Because that doesn't paint the narrative some people wish to portray.

They don't think either rookie QB is better than Pickett. It's just that those rookies are cheap for the next 4 years. They got a reasonable offer Pickett so they got rid of him to make room for Watson coming back later in the season. Now they brought another QB for the practical reason of having an Emergency QB if they have another string of injuries. After all it's better to have low tier guys on the team that KNOW your offense than some guy off the street who is coming in blind. After all the Browns QBs are constantly injured.

that's what Joe Thomas said on a podcast I heard too ... that they viewed Pickett as a Darnold type project

Since Baker Mayfield departed the Browns , they have gone through 8 QBs.
If that doesn't define ineptness in addressing the QB position, I dont know what does.
Yet some still think Andrew Berry can turn this franchise around .
Having Kenny Pickett around for the summer did nothing to improve
The team. He is on 4th team in 2 years for a reason

I agree. He had to beat out Flacco in camp, and he didn't (due to injury). Nothing gained, nothing lost.

I don't know if this was the case. I think they liked Pickett because he was cheap to have on the roster and cheap to acquire. Plus he started a ton of games in his career and that means something to teams. What changed everything was drafting two quarterbacks. I don't think they expected to do that.

If Pickett was intended to be the starter, then why sign Flacco?

Obviously, I don't have anything definitive to back this up but it is my guess that the Browns wanted Pickett to be QB2 while they tried to work out a deal with ATL for Cousins. Then they would have had him, Pickett to back him up and then potentially a draft pick if one they liked fell to them or, if one is inclined to think based on where Gabriel was selected, reach for one. Once Cousins wasn't going to happen, they immediately pivoted to Flacco.

But that's just me.

LMAO


We replaced DTR and Winston with Flacco, Dillon, and Sanders. That my friend IS improvement.

Agreed. AB and FO have done a lot to improve our roster since our last game in January. I think there is a lot of potential with our younger and new players. We have a tough schedule to deal with and the ongoing recovery from the Watson fiasco. Considering what a disaster that’s been I don’t think we’re doing too bad but it will be hanging over our heads for the foreseeable future.

I really have no idea what their "plan" was in regards to Pckett and Flacco. But I have an opinion just as you do. Nothing to back it up just they way I see it from my perspective.

I believe they brought in two veterans with a lot of starting experience for one reason only. I think the intent there was to let those veterans fight it out for the staring spot and may the best man win. That would in turn leave them with a backup who was a veteran with a lot of staring experience. As to who who that staring spot I think they felt was six of one and a half dozen of the other.

But as you said, that scenario simply didn't play out due to injury. DG played well. Better than most every Browns fan and even better than this FO and coaching staff may have thought he could. That's the thing about "plans". You base your plans on the situation at hand. When that situation changes then so to do your plans. There's on old saying. "If you want to hear God laugh tell him your plans." I'm fully convinced just how accurate that old saying is.

That's why often times your contingency plans end up being the plan after all is said and done.

According to Mary Cay, Aditi, and other Browns media they felt Pickett was the plan as starter as camp began. Two things modified the plan from early on. When the Browns drafted Gabriel. I believe they felt Pickett, Flacco, Gabriel and a camp arm was the plan. When Sanders fell. The value was too good for his potential to pass up that changed the initial plans. Going into camp was Pickett and Flacco battling for day 1 starter. Then any of the QB's were potential trade candidates because bottom line was next year's starter is not currently on the team. As soon as the Jax trade was made getting a QB in 2026 was/is the plan and Flacco/Gabriel/Sanders are not going to change that plan now.

Flacco was the "break glass in case of emergency" signing. Pickett got injured and neither Gabriel or Shedeur are ready to take over as the starter.