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Good Grief...

As a child, my family spent a lot of time above and below the poverty line. Unemployment, Food Stamps, welfare, you name it, that can be the life of a construction worker in Ohio. Some years were ok, others were more difficult. When you are a union trade worker, that is your life. Finding other work requires you turn in your union card.

I vowed to myself that that was not the life for me. Grants and loans put me through school. I guess that you would call that a hand out. But there is more to that story as it is likely that I will have a career that will end without a day of unemployment.

But I understand that there are people that do struggle with work, and sometimes it is because there is no work available.

The government has enjoyed a wonderful return on its investment in the form of the taxes that have been paid.

The problem with a lot of people is that they cannot relate to the challenges faced by others. Trump is one of those. Empathy is not in his vocabulary, nor does it appear to be in yours.

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That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write. You love putting words in peoples mouths,, How in the hell is it giving handouts to US Citizens,, OUR OWN PEOPLE, to those that can't work.. for whatever reason...

Honestly, to read into what I said and come up with that crap makes you sound really crazy.

WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? Would Jesus help those that need help?

Are there able bodied people our there that can work, I would guess so. But I'm not dumb enough to assume everyone is.

That's what MAGA does all the time with everything. It's always one size fits all...

Summary Table
Measure Percentage / Description
Difficult to afford healthcare ~44% of U.S. adults

Trouble paying for healthcare (past year) ~23% of adults
KFF

Medical bill problems / debt (working-age) ~41%, ~72 million people
Commonwealth Fund

Inability to access quality care (today) ~35%, ~91 million people
West Health
Public Health Watch

“Cost Desperate” (can't afford/access care/medicine) ~11% of adults
Gallup.com

Delayed/forwent care due to cost ~28% in 2023
Health System Tracker

Skipped care entirely due to cost ~27% in 2023
Federal Reserve

Any type of medical financial hardship ~56%, equaling ~137 million adults
American Cancer Society MediaRoom

So lets get rid of Medicaid to save money and trans!

He's definitely leaving his mark.

Might be true , might not. How can anyone believe anything he says? Could have been a fishing boat. You cannot believe anything he says good or bad. that is a problem he created.

Something tells me this was fully vetted. Especially, if the US Military was involved.


As a bonus, I guarantee a drug trafficker will now think twice before attempting to deliver drugs on open waters.

I do not want the government deciding who gets to keep what. They should not have that type power. We live in a Capitalist society where the amount you get is determined by how hard and smart you work for it. The government should not take from some to give to others. I am all for helping the poor. There are places like churches and other institutions that can help the poor. Our government should not be involved. I can make better decisions with my money than the government can. Plain and simple.

We allowed religion to "help" Native Americans and we see how that turned out.

When they said America is "For the people" it meant all the people both they rich or poor.

I'll pretend to be having a normal conversation with just you - because the other poster you're responding to isn't interested in a legitimate conversation or solution:

The work churches and private charities do is great —they provide not just aid but also community and connection in a way a government never can... and at a local level. We should absolutely support and encourage that.

However, the scale of need is simply too big for any charity(s) to handle alone. Government, for all its flaws, is the only mechanism we have that can operate on the scale needed to ensure no one starves, no elderly person is without medicine, and no child is without food, regardless of where they live or if they've found a helping church. AND - let's not forget that our churches often discriminate against some parts of society. The LGBQT poor and under privilaged also are in need and deserve assistance. We've already seen the other poster marginalize that group - so his "charity" only goes to some that meet his white privalaged ideals.

It's not really an 'either/or' choice. Think of it this way: the government's role is to provide a basic, structural safety net—the floor that prevents anyone from falling into utter destitution. Then, churches and charities can do their best work by stepping in to provide the relational, spiritual, and personalized support that lifts people up even further. It's about both justice through our systems and charity through our communities working together. The idea that it should ALL be loval and church/charity based is simply 100% not viable.

I donate to one of the largest local food assistance programs both in my area and globally. They are not affiliated with any religion. What I don't support is that you are required to be indoctrinated in order to be fed. I'm not saying all religions tie that into giving people assistance but often times that's the case. I am not willing to spend the time separating the wheat from the chaff in that regard.