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Good Grief...

As a child, my family spent a lot of time above and below the poverty line. Unemployment, Food Stamps, welfare, you name it, that can be the life of a construction worker in Ohio. Some years were ok, others were more difficult. When you are a union trade worker, that is your life. Finding other work requires you turn in your union card.

I vowed to myself that that was not the life for me. Grants and loans put me through school. I guess that you would call that a hand out. But there is more to that story as it is likely that I will have a career that will end without a day of unemployment.

But I understand that there are people that do struggle with work, and sometimes it is because there is no work available.

The government has enjoyed a wonderful return on its investment in the form of the taxes that have been paid.

The problem with a lot of people is that they cannot relate to the challenges faced by others. Trump is one of those. Empathy is not in his vocabulary, nor does it appear to be in yours.

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That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write. You love putting words in peoples mouths,, How in the hell is it giving handouts to US Citizens,, OUR OWN PEOPLE, to those that can't work.. for whatever reason...

Honestly, to read into what I said and come up with that crap makes you sound really crazy.

WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? Would Jesus help those that need help?

Are there able bodied people our there that can work, I would guess so. But I'm not dumb enough to assume everyone is.

That's what MAGA does all the time with everything. It's always one size fits all...

Summary Table
Measure Percentage / Description
Difficult to afford healthcare ~44% of U.S. adults

Trouble paying for healthcare (past year) ~23% of adults
KFF

Medical bill problems / debt (working-age) ~41%, ~72 million people
Commonwealth Fund

Inability to access quality care (today) ~35%, ~91 million people
West Health
Public Health Watch

“Cost Desperate” (can't afford/access care/medicine) ~11% of adults
Gallup.com

Delayed/forwent care due to cost ~28% in 2023
Health System Tracker

Skipped care entirely due to cost ~27% in 2023
Federal Reserve

Any type of medical financial hardship ~56%, equaling ~137 million adults
American Cancer Society MediaRoom

So lets get rid of Medicaid to save money and trans!

He's definitely leaving his mark.

Might be true , might not. How can anyone believe anything he says? Could have been a fishing boat. You cannot believe anything he says good or bad. that is a problem he created.

Something tells me this was fully vetted. Especially, if the US Military was involved.


As a bonus, I guarantee a drug trafficker will now think twice before attempting to deliver drugs on open waters.

I do not want the government deciding who gets to keep what. They should not have that type power. We live in a Capitalist society where the amount you get is determined by how hard and smart you work for it. The government should not take from some to give to others. I am all for helping the poor. There are places like churches and other institutions that can help the poor. Our government should not be involved. I can make better decisions with my money than the government can. Plain and simple.

We allowed religion to "help" Native Americans and we see how that turned out.

When they said America is "For the people" it meant all the people both they rich or poor.

I'll pretend to be having a normal conversation with just you - because the other poster you're responding to isn't interested in a legitimate conversation or solution:

The work churches and private charities do is great —they provide not just aid but also community and connection in a way a government never can... and at a local level. We should absolutely support and encourage that.

However, the scale of need is simply too big for any charity(s) to handle alone. Government, for all its flaws, is the only mechanism we have that can operate on the scale needed to ensure no one starves, no elderly person is without medicine, and no child is without food, regardless of where they live or if they've found a helping church. AND - let's not forget that our churches often discriminate against some parts of society. The LGBQT poor and under privilaged also are in need and deserve assistance. We've already seen the other poster marginalize that group - so his "charity" only goes to some that meet his white privalaged ideals.

It's not really an 'either/or' choice. Think of it this way: the government's role is to provide a basic, structural safety net—the floor that prevents anyone from falling into utter destitution. Then, churches and charities can do their best work by stepping in to provide the relational, spiritual, and personalized support that lifts people up even further. It's about both justice through our systems and charity through our communities working together. The idea that it should ALL be loval and church/charity based is simply 100% not viable.

I donate to one of the largest local food assistance programs both in my area and globally. They are not affiliated with any religion. What I don't support is that you are required to be indoctrinated in order to be fed. I'm not saying all religions tie that into giving people assistance but often times that's the case. I am not willing to spend the time separating the wheat from the chaff in that regard.

In other news............................

SCOTUS; Considering race in hiring practices and college applicant's files is blatantly unconstitutional.

Also SCOTUS; Considering using racial profiling in whom to stop and detain is cool, cool, cool.

“We will protect the Judeo-Christian principles of our founding,” President Trump said to the White House Religious Liberty Commission at the Museum of the Bible.
"We have to bring back religion in America, bring it back stronger than ever before.” - Donald Trump

Trump says he’ll direct Education Department to protect praying in public school

Trump reiterated plans to protect religious freedom in schools, a promise he made throughout the 2024 campaign.

President Donald Trump on Monday said that the Department of Education would soon be instituting new guidelines on the right to prayer in public schools.

Speaking from an event at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, Trump said there are “grave threats to religious liberty in American schools.”

“For most of our country’s history, the Bible was found in every classroom in the nation, yet in many schools today students are instead indoctrinated with anti-religious propaganda and some are punished for their religious beliefs. Very, very strongly punished,” Trump said. “It is ridiculous.”

Trump did not detail what the new guidance will include, but during the 2024 campaign he promised to “bring back prayer” to public schools.

In a statement to POLITICO, Savannah Newhouse, press secretary for the Education Department said, “The Department of Education looks forward to supporting President Trump’s vision to promote religious liberty in our schools across the country.”

While religion is not banned in public schools, the Supreme Court ruled in 1962 that state-sponsored prayer in public schools violates the First Amendment.

During his first term, Trump required local educational agencies to confirm that their policies did not prevent students from expressing their religious beliefs in order to receive federal funding.

He had also issued new guidance clarifying that students are allowed to organize prayer groups, express their religious beliefs in their assignments and can read religious texts or pray during non-instructional periods. The guidance was similar to that of 2003 guidance instituted under former President George W. Bush.

On Monday, Trump vowed to protect Judeo-Christian principles.

“We have to bring back religion in America, bring it back stronger than ever before as our country grows stronger and stronger,” Trump said. “To have a great nation, you have to have religion.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/...public-school-00550550?nname=playbook-pm

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... "Judeo-Christian principles" and not all religions. Imagine that.

freedom of my religion!

Why is Trump backtracking on the Hyundai immigration raid?
Joel Mathis, The Week US
Tue, September 16, 2025 at 1:39 PM EDT

President Donald Trump’s anti-immigration efforts have bumped up against the limits of his “buy American” economic goals. His administration’s detention of hundreds of South Korean Hyundai employees in Georgia now threatens Trump’s attempts to encourage manufacturing investment in the United States — and Trump himself is trying to walk back the damage.

The president is trying to “limit the fallout” of the raid on the new Hyundai plant, said CNBC. Foreign companies investing in the United States should “bring their people of expertise for a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these very unique and complex products,” he said Sunday in a Truth Social post. “We welcome them.” The damage may already be done. While officials say that many of the workers detained in Georgia were working in the country on the wrong types of visas, the raid “could lead to other foreign businesses reassessing their workforces” in the United States, said CNBC.

The incident “provoked national outrage in South Korea,” said Axios, which had been expected to invest billions of dollars “building auto and battery plants,” as well as “restoring the U.S. shipbuilding industry.” Trump’s statement is a concession that America needs outside help to “make many of the goods at the heart of the administration’s push for foreign investment.”

What did the commentators say?

The Hyundai raid was a “massive own goal” by the Trump administration, said The Economist. The state of Georgia wooed the company to “breathe life back into agricultural counties” that were losing young people to cities with more and better jobs. This shift was good for local businesses: More than 20 new companies that sell “materials or component parts” to Hyundai have sprung up within an hour’s drive of the new plant. The raid will not end those efforts, but it could “make other companies more skittish” about investing in the United States.

South Korea “just learned a deep lesson about dealing with Donald Trump,” Allison Morrow said at CNN. Trump had recently met in the Oval Office with South Korea’s President Lee Jae Myung to tout the country’s $350 billion in investments in American manufacturing. The raid “landed like a slap” in Seoul’s face, with images of workers “shackled at the wrists, waist and ankles” being loaded onto buses. The lesson? “Any deal you strike with Donald Trump’s government comes with a giant asterisk.”

Attracting foreign investment is one of “favorite economic-development tools” for Republican governors, Ed Kilgore said at New York. “For some, it’s all they know how to do, other than cutting taxes, to create wealth.” The raid was an “embarrassment” to those efforts.

What next?

More than 300 of the workers have returned to South Korea by plane after a week in custody. Only one decided to stay in the United States after being “kept in cramped and unsanitary conditions” during the detention, said Time. Said Jang Young-seol, an engineer who worked for a subcontractor at the plant, “Nobody is going to stay and work when it’s like this.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-trump-backtracking-hyundai-immigration-173926880.html

All of this could have been handled between the American and S. Korean government to straighten out the confusion on those visas. But that can't happen when you're putting on an anti immigration reality show.

These workers had visas. It just appears they weren't the kind of visas they were supposed to have. That could have easily been straightened out. It's not like they were crossing the Mexican border with a backpack full of drugs. And that's not what was happening either.

These were the worst of the worst. They are deadly gang members and rapists!!!!!!