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All I know is he was unavailable on Sunday vs the Bengals for his own accord. Team first players miss games for injury and not other reasons.

I give up.

So why was he the last one signed? Was it because of him or because the team wanted to get a better idea of the legal issues first? You love to make up scenarios based on your own conclusions you make up in your brain with zero evidence to base them on.

When you say he is no Nick Chubb. Do you mean Nick Chubb now? Because that's who he was drafted to replace. And once again you have drawn a conclusion before he's played a single snap in the NFL.

Sometimes I actually feel bad for you.

What actions? Who was actually the cause for no contract being reached? Do you think it could have been the team waiting until after the criminal case was resolved? Would that make sense to any normal thinking adult?

I see you weren't interested in the wager.

Cant say I blame you.

Weakest of takes. The league, his agent, his family, and the Browns themselves probably all told him not to sign or do anything with the NFL until this whole case gets settled.

Is this really that lost on you?

All I know is his team played a football game and he did not make himself available to participate in that game. Shows his character or lack there of. Browns 0-1 and missing Judkins because he was not signed plain and simple. No excuses.

As long as that's all you know there's really no need for much discussion.

So you actually have no idea which side it was that didn't want to come to a contract agreement earlier. Whether it was the Browns wanting to wait until they knew more about the criminal charges moving forward or whether it was Judkins side.

So you really have no idea who it was that caused him not to be available for that game at all. Which means you know nothing about his character. You just 'feel" that way.

I don't believe "you know" means what you think it means.

Was he available Sunday? Was every other draft pick available? What was the difference? He can be a great player but he is off to a bad start because he either could not keep his nose clean or he could not stay from people that can't and/or was the last drafted player to sign his contract in the entire league. I do not care how someone slices that it is bad. Shows he has a charther issue that he needs to fix. If the team is playing he needs to be available. Especially when the team is countinmg so much on him.

Do you work on your days off? How about on days you don't get paid?

So Judkins now gets Sundays off? I thought he was drafted to play running back for the Browns which on week 1 he failed to do.

Was any other draft pick facing criminal charges and under criminal investigation up until just days before they were signed by the Browns? Do you think there's any chance the Browns may have been being cautious after the watson debacle?

There's that "difference" you claim you are looking for which has already been pointed out to you.

Not only does none of this show he has character issues, it shows that it may have been the Browns holding things up and not Judkins. The Browns would have been smart by holding things up until this thing played out in criminal court. I suppose you most likely can't see the Browns as being smart either. If you could only open your mind to logical possibilities. But that ship has sailed.

I'm tired of excuses. The Browns lost and Judkins is excused of his actions. Stefanski and Berry should get fired rather quickly if the losing continues. The only thing that matters is he was not available week 1 and his team lost. That is a contributing factor to the loss.

Yet you have no idea if it was the Browns or Judkins who were waiting to make a deal. It would make too much sense for you to think it may have been the Browns who were waiting on the court system to see if this incident was going to make it to criminal court first before entering into a contract. Earth to DOTD. You don't get paid to play without a contract.

Yet you have been laying the blame solely at Judkins feet this entire time having no way of knowing who was holding up the contract. That's not an excuse. That's what has been going on here. You have no idea if Judkins did anything to be excused for.



And no, I'm not laughing with you.

He was not available to play, and his absence contributed to the loss.

And was the fact that he was not available to the team because the team didn't want to sign him until the legal process had played out or because of Judkins? And don't start with the Judkins should not have put himself in that situation BS. You can't predict when someone will go off the deep end and make false accusations against you and there is video evidence that's what happened here. That would make Judkins the victim and not the bad guy.

I don't care!!! Judkins has to take accountability for his actions and his actions led to him not playing week 1 and his team lost.

And that's true of every injured player in the history of sport. Is it because they didn't train hard enough to prevent injury? Is it a character flaw??

C'mon man. Quit passing judgement on something you (we) know nothing about. No one is privy to what went on behind closed doors and no one even knows what the team's stance was during this process. You're really reaching, which was one thing, until you started beating a dead horse.

What "actions" did Judkins take that led him to not be playing in week 1? That's been the entire question this entire time. One that up until now you have been unable to answer. Is deciding to date the wrong girl something you think he needs to take accountability for? Criminal charges were dropped. There's video evidence he committed no crime. You have no idea who was holding up the contract.

So what is it you think he needs to be held accountable for exactly? Try to think hard and be specific. So far you've offered nothing other than throwing a fit with zero specifics.

Judkins needs to take accountability for his actions, you are responsible for who you are with and what happens when you are around them. Stefanski and Berry need to take accountability to get their players on the field and ready to play each week. Judkins was not injured. He was held up by charges and a contract dispute. None should have happened or prevented him from playing week 1.

...So Nick Chubb was responsible for being around Minkah Fitzpatrick and should take accountability for missing time?

That is an injury. Not the same as a contract dispute and criminal charges.

So as I expected you got nothing. Have another shot.

Charges that were dropped and a contract you have no idea which party was holding up.

Again, he was not on the field Sunday and was a contributing factor in the loss to the Bengals. That cannot be denied. All you have is excuses.