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I saw that they found the weapon. I didn’t realize there were inscriptions on it. I imagine they are getting pretty close.

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I agree with Memphis about what he's said about specific responses being disgusting. At the end of the day, at 31 years old he was killed because someone didn't like what he said.

Ultimately, the commentary says more about the people saying those things than the person who was killed. Spewing hate/spite instead of showing a little common decency does not isolate itself to any political party or demographic. I don't say that as a whatabout or anything like that, but moreso just to say that we are all responsible for what we say and do and our humanity isn't tied to political party or anything else other than who we are inside.


I'm curious about how people feel about a couple things he has said in the past that seem especially relevant now... but I'm going to ask that later. It's not my intent, but I know it's going to sound disingenuous/smarmy right now.

Thats not what trump said. So instead of helping and finding common ground to help the country move forward. He choses to blame and fuel the flames of hate. trump said it was the left wing radicals on all political violence recently.

There will be consequences no doubt. The shooter needs caught and executed. Then all Antifa needs to be labeled domestic terrorists and dealt with in severe ways to end their cycle of violence.

Can we move on to the KKK, the Jan. 6th rioters and white supremacist groups from there?

Do you really think that’s going to help? Violence and crackdowns only beget more violence and crackdowns in my experience.

The idiot who shot POTUS helped him win the presidency and I’d bet the idiot who brutally assassinated Charlie Kirk will galvanize more people to take up what his mission was.

We don’t even know who the shooter is yet. If you ask me, I think the adults need to retake the room and shove all of the extremists back into the shadows where they are afraid to even mention anything again. We need to stop demonizing everyone who thinks differently than us, we need to remember how ti act like a country again, and, for the love of God, we need to expel media, whether social or mainstream, that keeps us falling down the slippery slope of dehumanizing other people for crying out loud.

I saw a quote today that said more evil acts are performed by people who think they are doing the right thing than they are the wrong thing. 24 years ago today that happened. It’s because of dehumanization. The more we push other people away, shout over them, refuse to interact with them, reinforce ourselves with echo chamber media propaganda, the more often that ish is going to happen.

I haven’t always been immune to that crap myself. But I think this is a turning point for me. I’m damn tired of it.

We need to freaking grow up and see the humanity in each other again.

I agree whole Heartly. Allowing cities to burn because of extremists in this country needs to stop and we must allow our law enforcement agencies to act without having thier hands tied.

All extremist groups need dealt with severely. Antifa has been the most active lately and probably the most violent and dangerous lately.

What cities are burning? You claimed you agreed only to add more rhetoric to the topic.

I agree with the first part. Much of what happened with the ANTIFA protests was that criminals took advantage of the situation after the protests had already ended. Anyone engaged in such activities be they ANTIFA or not should face the justice system and be punished for their crimes. There's no excuse for it.

How many riots has Antifa been involved in. There were some in June. Quite a few in 2020 and since. They are not peaceful protests as you and others say they are riots and should not be allowed to happen. See what happened on a Cincinnati bridge this summer. The Cincinnati police sat back and watched rioters block traffic on a bridge and cause problems. When they went across the bridge the Kentucky police put a swift end to the riot. That is how it should be handled. Take them to jail.

Back to the topic, there are theories floating around, ranging from tangible to conspiratorial to outright nuts. I won’t float the ones that don’t seem plausible, one that bears some attention:

The old man who was initially thought to be the shooter kept yelling “Shoot me” as he was being detained. There is speculation that this may have been done to by time for the shooter to escape. Again, I don’t know if that’s true. There was a link under the Twitter account “Panda.” For some reason I can’t post it in here, but it may be because I don’t have the app anymore. If someone can find it, please post the video.

I believe this was the suspect who ended up getting the obstruction charges. Again, may just be a crazy old man.

Thank you, my friend.

I hope I'm not putting words in his mouth, but the post that you responded to is less about any single political topic and more about what goes on in between each and every one of our ears and what comes out of each of our mouths.

Exactly.

I don’t know-I just think we are a broken country

Yesterday there was another school shooting.

Today, two more schools were on lockdown for about 3-4 hours because of a man with a gun. They had to do a room by room search.
Then, there were up to 8 black colleges that were placed on lockdown today for terroristic threats.
And the DNC got a bomb threat.

And there is now an active shooter was casualties at the Naval Academy