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He admitted he needed to heal up in his own words. Only it's not what you're suggesting. Just not the kind of healing you're suggesting.

Gabriel may have the Doug Flutie syndrome. He was a leader and won everywhere he played but he didn't look like an NFL QB. Height, weight speed etc.

That may be true. But he sure managed to put together two good scoring drives. One in preseason and one last week. I'm certainly not saying that is emblematic of the long term results but it's a good starting point.

I love Doug Flutie. I watched a lot of games he played in the CFL and I agree with almost everything you posted, except he was very quick with his feet. And very smart.

I liked Doug Flutie too. The guy never got a fair shot as an NFL starter because of the reasons I listed. He was quick but not fast. The guy just won but didn't look good doing it LOL !!! Maybe Dillon can be OUR Doug Flutie!!!!

I just hate the thought of us turning over the reins to a rookie. Not fair to him but the entire team. If our offence continues to look like slop, we probably will.
But it’s not just Joe.

The line hasn’t been good and wide receivers struggle to get open. Jeudy has been playing “Quincy Morgan football”, to quote drop king Q from 2004 or so.

I'm not in love with it either. Flacco will have a convenient minor injury by week 7 if this keeps up. That way you don't look like fools if you have to pull the rookie back out.

Mark my words.

....did you have to put slop and Joe in close proximity in my brain?

Every time I see Flacco I'm going to have the Sloppy Joe jingle going in my head now.

Edit: or probably this

He kind reminds me of another QB who was undersized, was said to have a week arm, and wasn't drafted till the 13th round of the 1972 NFL draft, and who spent TWO years on the practice squad without even seeing the field. He went on to Become the NFL MVP in 1980.

We talk about DG's physicality all the time but maybe he has that "IT Factor" that is always talked about. We'll see soon enough I'm sure.

The story behind the Browns and Baker
Have the Browns leadership learned from past mistakes?

Se he doesn't "know" but he "thinks".

Really , I do not believe this debate and discussion and fingerpointing about Baker helps at all. No purpose is served and arguing about this past with Baker is not transformational. Some seem driven to affix and assign blame for past shortcomings. I chalk this up to more of the same.
Don't fix blame; fix problems! We have plenty to go around now without haunting our past to dig up more. Wasted energy. What has it fixed, and why do some insist on this fixation?
You may not have cared for his games, his picks, lack of mobility, etc. I trust Flacco more than rooks at this time because college does not equal NFL honestly. I am thankful we can put him on the field when he is not injured. I see him helping us even if sidelined for whatever reason. This group has defense, but a few individuals hurt us.
Our decisions have not worked well yet. I believe they can at least be more competitive, but our improvement has to be relentless. Flacco and Ski need to improve, but a list of all the others who have hurt us need too up their game.

Same thing with the Browns organization. They didn't know but they thought it was a great move. The difference is one is a podcaster, and the other is supposed to be a professional NFL decision maker. In fact, the Browns organization failed the team in both instances. Now we're in 2025 and to date, the Flacco experiment has been a failed project, and they still have to deal with the ramifications through 2026 with the Watson debacle.

Let's review:

In February, this team had no viable QB for the position 3-years after running Mayfield out of town. Now, through only 2-weeks of the season, we have fans screaming for the replacement of Flacco with a 3rd round rookie.

In February, we knew 2 things about the o-line. 1) They were an aging group that's injury prone with an untested LT. 2) Four of the five starters are in the final year of their contracts with each of them carrying big dead cap money. Fast forward to 2-weeks into the season and we already have 1 of the players injured and missing game time. LT is a bust and that's being nice. The o-line is clearly showing their age with slowness and weak play. Our backups are 10 times weaker than anyone imagined.

In February, we knew we 1 certified WR with hopes of a couple 2-3 year players stepping up for #2 and #3 slots. Fast forward to 2-weeks into the season, our #1 WR is being compared to a "Quincy Morgan" and not even preforming at a #2 WR which by the way, he struggled to maintain being a #2 WR in Denver. Our #2 and #3 WR's are struggling mightily and can't seem to get separation on 2/3 of the pass plays.

I've been saying for 2 years now that Berry and Stefanski need to go. This roster is their creation, and they are failing miserably. Clearly, when your 41-year QB is making 45 attempts and averaging only 245 yds per game thru the 1st two weeks, you have a serious roster problem.