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You're trying to make it sound like a solution to the QB situation was out there and we chose to pass. With Watson still on the payroll our options were even more limited than usual. We wouldn't have even been able to afford the likes of Darnold or Geno Smith.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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You said he is a reach not me.
I don't care if he was selected in the third round.
I don't think myself or anyone else is saying he is savior.
He is going to play. Period. That is all we know.
I am glad you are not making decisions. Not that I would do better or that the current regime has not made mistakes.
I don't know how long it will take. Bills, Ravens, SF, SD, Lions and many others have not figured it out as well. And they have good quarterbacks.
We are years away. I don't care who is running the show.
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Just let Gabriel play. If he's not very good so be it. Don't forget we have Sanders waiting in the wings! lol Oh, I just read that Flacco is now behind Gabriel, not Sanders. Doesn't lend much confidence in him. Which again shows the incompetence of this FO. They drafted him but have 0 confidence in him. Why did they trade Pickett instead of cutting Sanders. Makes no sense. Unless they're not trying to win games. Are you hinting at they might be tanking this season? Not that far-fetched. I don't know. Regardless, let's see what Gabriel can do. Who knows, we might have a decent QB here. With a bad offense line. And questionable receivers... And....
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Interested to see what our poor man's Baker Mayfield can do.
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So why did they trade Pickett? Sounds like excuses are already being made for Stefanski and his QB before he ever takes the field. Because they knew what they had in Picket and he wasn't the answer, while Dillon and Sanders futures are still a possibility.
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So why did they trade Pickett? Sounds like excuses are already being made for Stefanski and his QB before he ever takes the field. Because they knew what they had in Picket and he wasn't the answer, while Dillon and Sanders futures are still a possibility. So, you would rather see what the future of two drafted QBs are than the team actually winning or losing. Talk about losing culture. The QB of the future is not on this team right now. Gabriel is a pop warner sized QB and Sanders certainly is not the adult in the room. The AFC North is as open at the top as it has been since the Browns returned but instead of trying to win, they want to play a reached for 3rd round pick and more than likely later the QB that fell the furthest in draft history. I have grown very tired of these idiotic moves and fans accepting each move and making excuses for every move. Berry and Stefanski both need fired. There are 32 teams in the NFL, and none are replacing a veteran with a 3rd round career back up at best to tank the season for a better draft pick to find a QB. Let's face it that is what is happening. 6 years into this regime and they have to tank to find their QB. Sad.
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What proof do you have on how Pickett has performed?
Or how Pickett will perform?
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In his career he has a winning record 15-10. Thrown more TDs to INTs. Was a past 1st round draft pick. Would be a very competent backup QB. If the Browns were really trying to win would be on the team. Instead, the Browns do not care if they win or lose so let's just see what a couple draft picks can do. The future QB of the Browns is not on this team. Once the trade was made, they determined that QB is coming in next year's draft. This is a waste of a year now. The AFC North is as open at the top to win than any time since the Browns came back and we want to see what we have instead of trying to win. pathetic. I am not interested to see if either of these rookies can ever be a competent back up. I follow a team I want to see win and right now I see a team not trying to win.
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Pickett is playing for his fourth team. If he was highly thought of that would not be the case.
"Instead, the Browns do not care if they win or lose"
If that is your opinion. I suggest find another team. Why watch or follow a team if that is how you feel?
If I felt that way. I would not watch them.
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Pickett is playing for his fourth team. If he was highly thought of that would not be the case.
"Instead, the Browns do not care if they win or lose"
If that is your opinion. I suggest find another team. Why watch or follow a team if that is how you feel?
If I felt that way. I would not watch them. So, you don't have a legit argument against this FO is not trying to win so you tell me to find a different team. Dude, I have been following the Browns since Brian Sipe was under center. I am disgusted that Berry and Stefanski in year 6 are not trying to field a winner. They need fired. Promote Schwartz. He is the only coach on that team that is producing. I do not believe Gabriel has a snowballs chance to be any good in the NFL. I saw that game in the rose bowl. You think Ohio had him rattled. Wait until he gets to Pittsburg.
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Not that it really matters but I have followed the Browns since 1960.
IMO there is no NFL organization that is not trying to win. Period.
You have your opinion. I have mine.
I disagree with you. I will leave it at that.
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So, you would rather see what the future of two drafted QBs are than the team actually winning or losing. In case you didn't notice we are already losing. Nobody in their right mind sees that changing right now with Joe starting (no they wouldn't see it with Picket either) Dillon has a shot and so does Sanders. But as much as you and some others cry about it's the Truth. Did you really think we were winning the Superbowl this year 
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So, you would rather see what the future of two drafted QBs are than the team actually winning or losing. At this point, yes. This was always going to be the case at some point this season, but Flacco's performance has expedited the change. If either Gabriel or Sanders work out (a long shot) then we have two first rounders to use on positions outside of QB. If they don't, it most likely means they've failed and we're probably in a good position to take a QB early or use both first rounders (and perhaps more) to move up to get one. But we have to find out either way and this was a plan I think everyone could see once the draft was over. It was just of matter of when it was going to commence..... .....and here we are.
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Ryan Leaf was a former first round draft pick too. Would you like a list?
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Ok Gabriel is the man he was the perfect pick. The next Tom Brady. We will see!!!!
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If they had more time with Pickett, he probably would have beaten out Flacco and they would have traded Flacco.
Because Pickett wasn't healthy, he got traded because they knew what they had in Flacco + he was having a good camp/ pre-season.
Meh.
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Ok Gabriel is the man he was the perfect pick. The next Tom Brady. We will see!!!! Yet again, you are the only one who has said that. Nobody else has. Dear Lord man.
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Ok Gabriel is the man he was the perfect pick. The next Tom Brady. We will see!!!! Yet again, you are the only one who has said that. Nobody else has. Dear Lord man. Can I go ahead and say it so at least someone has? Dillon Gabriel will be a HOFer. He will rewrite the record books., Fans will be saying Otto Who? Now he can be speaking truth to power.
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So why did they trade Pickett? Sounds like excuses are already being made for Stefanski and his QB before he ever takes the field. Because they knew what they had in Picket and he wasn't the answer, while Dillon and Sanders futures are still a possibility. So, you would rather see what the future of two drafted QBs are than the team actually winning or losing. Talk about losing culture. The QB of the future is not on this team right now. Gabriel is a pop warner sized QB and Sanders certainly is not the adult in the room. The AFC North is as open at the top as it has been since the Browns returned but instead of trying to win, they want to play a reached for 3rd round pick and more than likely later the QB that fell the furthest in draft history. I have grown very tired of these idiotic moves and fans accepting each move and making excuses for every move. Berry and Stefanski both need fired. There are 32 teams in the NFL, and none are replacing a veteran with a 3rd round career back up at best to tank the season for a better draft pick to find a QB. Let's face it that is what is happening. 6 years into this regime and they have to tank to find their QB. Sad. Kyler Murray1 QB 28 5' 10" 207 lbs 7 Oklahoma Dillon Gabriel8 QB 24 5' 11" 205 lbs R Oregon
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