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"Well, if the Savage quote below is correct, then yeah, he did proclaim DA the starter."

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heading into next season

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There is next season and there is "heading into" next season.


He also said, but Mary Kay conviently didn't print this quote, that it's "ultimately the Head Coach's decision". In other words, from Savage himself, it's not his call to proclaim anyone the starter. And in my opinon, especially 8 months in advance.


I'm not saying DA won't be starting game one. But I lean more towards most things he said about DA as posturing for others team's interest.

If he wants DA to sign long-term why would he wax on poetic about his great contributions to this season and practically proclaim him next season's starter? What is that saying to DA's agent? I mean, you don't tell the car salesman how bad you want the car and that you couldn't live without it if you hope to get the best price do you?

I'm not all that good at reading between the lines. Especially with Phil. He's honest, but is not above spinning things in the Browns favor.

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At any rate, regardless of what Mary Kay interpreted, the nationwide interpretation is that Savage came right out and said DA is the starter for 2008.

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But he didn't. I think that's how good Savage is.

RAC, in his last presser, said DA is the starting QB. He ended the season as the starter and goes on being the starter.

But the games are 8 months away. DA can certainly "head into the season" as , start training camp as, and possibly even start the season as the starter. But he could just as easily end up playing for someone else.

No one proclaimed DA the starter for '08. No matter what it "sounded" like or how it is "interpreted". There's actually no way he can say that. DA has full rights to go out and get signed to an offer sheet that the Browns can't or won't match for whatever reason.

(I wonder if that's what Savage is posturing for?)


Not to argue. That's just how I heard it.

My opinion was and still is that Anderson will be the starter, (wink, wink, nod, not), unless someone blows the Browns socks off with an offer they feel they cannot refuse.
Long term versus tender, good question, with a long term contract the team trading will pick up the contract, won't have to worry about signing him themselves, so we will see.
I personally cannot see investing a No. 22 pick in Quinn and then letting him ride the pine another year.
Whenever he takes over, and I think he will, he will still have a learning curve, as practice and games are still played at a different speed.
If the Browns keep progressing as we all hope this season indicates, you do not want to have to go through another QB learning while the rest of the team is ready for the playoffs.
Of course these are just my thoughts, no other persons, just my thoughts.

WOW, horrible move Savage.

Way to waste a 1st round pick and sit him for 2 years (assumingly) and waste any chance we had of getting back in the 1st Round. (assuming DA's worth)

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But I lean more towards most things he said about DA as posturing for others team's interest

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I totally agree here. Let's not forget last pre-season when RAC & Phil were practically Begging DA to take the job away from CF, but his fragile ego went into total meltdown mode! This is Phil boosting his image for Another team because if there is a QB Competition this year, BQ will be the starter! JMHO Go Brownies!!!

Here's an article with some quotes from the presser:

Browns aim to keep QBs, Lewis
Zac Jackson, Staff Writer
01.09.2008
If Phil Savage and the Browns get their way, Derek Anderson won't become a restricted free agent late next month.

And Brady Quinn won't be going anywhere, either.

Savage said Wednesday the Browns plan to try to sign Anderson to a multiple-year deal and keep Quinn as well. He said the Browns would like to begin serious talks with Anderson and Jamal Lewis "as soon as this week," and that he's already reached out to both Anderson and Lewis and their representatives regarding contracts that would bring both back to the Browns.

Lewis, who played last season on a one-year deal, would become an unrestricted free agent on Feb. 29 if he's not signed. The Browns have more options with Anderson, but Savage said he hopes to eliminate all of Anderson's restricted free agent possibilities by signing him to a deal that goes "beyond the 2008 season."

If the Browns can't sign Anderson before the start of free agency, they'd likely give him the highest restricted free-agent tender ensuring a one-year deal and first and third round picks as compensation if another team signed Anderson to an offer sheet and the Browns didn't match.

Savage didn't rule anything out, including at least listening to trade offers for both Anderson and Quinn. But he stressed that the Browns want both young quarterbacks back.

"Sitting here today, we want to go into next season with both (Anderson and Quinn)," Savage said. "We don't want to do anything to derail us from having a good season next year, and the quickest way to do that would be to have injuries at the quarterback position and not having anybody ready to go."

"Am I saying both quarterbacks are off the market for 2008? Yeah, I'm saying that. But obviously there are some things that have to be done before you can know that."

There are a variety of factors involved in considering any potential offers for Anderson, whether they come via trade or in matching an offer sheet. Among those factors are the length and price of the offer sheet Anderson could potentially sign, as well as the position of the draft picks a team would be willing to surrender to get Anderson.

If Anderson returned to the Browns on a one-year tender, he'd be eligible for unrestricted free agency after the 2008 season. Though the Browns would be guaranteed two draft picks in return if they give Anderson the highest tender and he signs elsewhere, Savage said the Browns would prefer to avoid the uncertainty and guesswork.

"In restricted free agency you always have concerns about the poison pill aspect where it makes it almost impossible to match," Savage said. "Is what we'd get in return (if the Browns didn't match an offer to Anderson) a top five pick? A top ten pick? I don't know. You'd have to look into it. Our goal is to get him out of that particular market as a restricted free agent."

Anderson started the final 15 games of 2007; in all, he threw for 3,787 yards and 29 touchdowns and is the first alternate for the AFC Pro Bowl team. Quinn handled himself well in his one cameo appearance in the season finale, and though the Browns gave up their 2008 first-round draft pick to get Quinn last spring, Savage said Anderson would likely return as the starter if he returns to the Browns in 2008.

"Again, that's a coach's decision (but) I think the deserving thing is to say Derek is the starter going into next year," Savage said. "He's done nothing to lose the job. We're taking the positive approach that we can get (a contract) done. We want to keep both players. If one of the players was to be moved we want to get something for him."

"I think Brady is a good team player, and I think he wants to play as well. But I think we have to play out next season and see which direction it goes. Derek gets the first bite of the apple to show what he can do and see if he can build off of what he did this year."

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I coundn't agree more. Smoke and mirrors... LET THE GAMES BEGIN.

IF, and that is a big IF, Anderson is on the roster for game one next year there WILL BE an official QB controversy in Cleveland... period.

There may not be a controversy in the locker room, clubhouse or front office BUT there will be one in the media and the fan base. That controversy will orchestrated and fueled by the media. It will be something like this:

• I like BOTH QB's. DA was a nice surprise this season. AND I, as a fan, know what we have in DA. BUT before anyone goes(especially Quinn) I want to know what we have in Quinn.
  
  
• Are we so QB starved that we hitch or wagon to the guy that surprised us, without letting the touted "QB of the Future" have a fighting chance to start?
  
  
• Quinn may or may not be a QB the caliber of Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. DA could easily be better than the great Bernie Kosar over the comming years. WHO REALLY KNOWS AT THIS POINT? We need to see what we have in Quinn to decide.
  
  

So, get ready it IS coming. Savage say's he wants both on the roster next year. I just read it on the home page. He is looking to sign DA to a long term deal. However, what it doesn't say is what PS is willing to pay for a long term deal. AND I would be VERY willing to wager on the fact that DA's agent will want a helluva lot more than PS will offer...

This opens the door for the agent to seek a deal for his man. If DA leaves on his own, the Browns would receive reasonable compensation and PS did no harm.

If we high tender DA and nobody bites, DA's agent tells him to hold off on signing a less than desirable contract this year. Next year he leaves in FA or the Browns pay accordingly... PS looks bad.

If PS signs DA to a reasonable long term contract without breaking the bank, PS wins because he owns DA's rights beyond next season. He can use him as a starter, a HIGH quality back up or Trade bait later on. PS looks like a genius.

PS is playing football management chess, positioning himself to LOOK GOOD regardless of the outcome and putting the ball in DA's court. (or his Agent's Court because DA does not handle his own contract negotiations)

At the end of the day, the FO is only part of the equation when settling the TRADE DA debate. You also have to take into consideration Cap Space, DA's Agent and other Teams potential offers. The best thing to do is position yourself to be the winner in the fallout.

Phil is good at what Phil does.

This is all starting to make sense now. Anderson is a priority re-signing so we don't get screwed on an offer sheet from someone with a late round draft pick -- like, say, Minnesota. I don't know that I'd let Anderson walk for the 17th overall pick plus a 3rd rounder. If its not sooner than 13th overall, I don't think it'd be worth the gamble.

This isn't taking Anderson off the market if a teams wants to make a trade. This is taking Anderson off the restricted free agent market. Granted most of the teams who would want DA are picking high enough that if they made him an offer while he's an RFA, it'd be worth doing, but that's not an absolute. Phil's got his mind in the right place on this one. Not saying for sure DA will be a Brown in 2008, but saying for sure he won't be an RFA in February.

If I understand this correctly. Savage will try to sign DA to a multiyear deal. That means probably a 3 year deal with decent signing (guaranteed) bonus. That would mean the Brown's would hold the options. Keeping him off the restricted (this year) market, then the unrestricted (next year) market. That would quarantee that he could not walk and the Browns get nothing.

That however does leave the door open for a straight trade. DA would go into next season as the starter. We would have depth both in the case of injury as well as if DA plays his way out of the position. If someone comes forth with a offer you can not refuse then Savage is holding the cards. He could listen to offers for both players. I see this as a win win.

Lets not forget that most RFA's who go to a new team, do so because of a trade. Just because someone is restricted doesn't mean another team can't make a trade for them. Its not all about the offer sheets, it's just removing the option of another team screwing us over with their contract offer to DA.

Had he stayed restricted, he was probably just as likely to be traded for something other than a first and third... like first and 4th, or first and a player, etc. This just means a team will HAVE to make a trade offer.

And if no team does, all it means is we've got DA for at least another year. A situation none of us will complain about, that's for sure. I've got no problem with him sticking around. I'd like to get a sweet deal for him, but its not a necessity.

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It was Mary Kay, up to her old tricks, who, (to get readers to read her story because of the title), interpreted it that way.

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Word is, Mary Kay is Roger Brown in drag.

Having read most of your posts I will say that every one of them has been very well said and extremely well written.

Savage in the press conference:

"Last year when I went and looked at the guys throwing the ball around in the spring, I thought we need a QB. This year I feel much better about the QB position."

Take that for what it's worth.

I agree, getting him off the RFA market to avoid a poison pill is a smart move, no matter what ends up happening down the road.

Just had the opportunity to listen to the presser from Savage today..

Couple of things struck me as I listened..

Phil is the exact same guy he was in the first presser he gave after taking the job 3 years ago.. He hasn't changed at all. Same exact demeanor. What makes that astounding is that in the beginning, he talked in an upbeat fashion but let everyone know that it was gonna be an uphill battle.

Today, he spoke in the same level headed way about the positives and looking forward... I enjoy people that don't let the highs get them too giddy and the lows get them to suicidal.

I also noted a non-committment committal to DA. I don't care how you slice the pie, he may want to keep DA in his heart, but in his head, I'm not sure that he doesn't feel the need to make more bold moves and another bold statement like he did last year with the moving up to get Quinn.

He even kind of eluded to the excitement it created to see the action unfold last draft when they made the moves to get Quinn and then Wright.

The other thing I see is a staunch supporter of RAC.. I don't think there is any question that Phil is in RAC's corner all the way.

He did say something puzzling however about the challenges on the field during the season..

He made mention that the Browns were 3 for 8 on Challenges and this was the part that threw me,, he said that was average for the league.

First off, did I hear him correctly.... 3 for 8 and it was a league average?

Secondly, assuming I did hear him correctly, if that's the case, then why were some Media types and some posters here so down on RAC for the challenges...

I'm almost positive I mis heard that stat..

All in all, Phil was typical Phil.. But I do think he's setting up the situation with DA...

In one sense, I hope I'm wrong. I don't think it's easy to win with Two good QB's,, you almost need that if you want to win when an injury occurs. I would think unless you are lucky, it's harder with just one.

You have to ask yourself, if Payton Manning (mr ironman) had gone down in about 6th or 7th game of the season,,, what would have happened with Sorgi as the starter. Scary isn't it?

Or does anyone think that the Pats would be undeated if Tom Brady (another Mr. Ironman) had gone down and either Matt Cassel or Matt Gutierrez had to step into the breach.. and if it was early enough in the season,, would they even be going to the playoffs let alone be undefeated.

With DA and Quinn, I'm very very comfortable that if who ever started, the other could fill in either short or long term and we wouldn't miss a beat!

But on the other hand,, the excitement of Draft day with a 1st rounder back and an extra third,, you have to admit, given Phil and his staffs ability and track record of late... this could be outstanding...

I have so much faith in that staff, that I think they could find another QB to back up the starter.. I'm almost convinced of it.

I'm not going to read through this entire thread, but Jules posted this information on the other thread.

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Take that for what it's worth.

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It's worth exactly what he said. Fyre, DA and Quinn, throughout the preseason and before the second game, didn't look nearly as promising as DA, Quinn and Dorsey do now.

I think its best that we keep Anderson for atleast another year as well...

Phil has made the first move and has put the ball in DA's court. We want to sign him and would like him back BUT .....

This shows the league we aren't going to screw DA, but if we can't sign him then he will get the high tender.

Next move is DA's. How do we even know he wants to come back? How secure can he possibly feel after the crowd reaction to BQ against the Niners? Do you think he might already feel the pressure and just want to move on to a team that doesn't have a high profile draft pick waiting impatiently in the wings? I think he just might.

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He said the Browns feel Anderson should have "a chance to go into the batter's box and swing for the fences next years. Our expectation is that he'll hit some home runs for us.''

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That's great Phil, but I'm not worried about home runs, I'm worried about touchdowns.

I really hope they're still listening to offers.... it'll be the best thing to do IMO.

1st I have to say that I think PS is as honest as he can be when he gives these press conferences. I trust the guy, and I trust RAC to do what is best for the Browns, so I won’t try to read to much into what moves will or won’t be made over the course of the off season.

If the Trusted One ( PS) says that the Browns would like to go into next season with the QB roster they have in tact, then I have got to believe that is the intent of the Browns. You can try to read between the lines if you like but there it is. The Browns want to go into the season with, DA, BQ, and KD, period.

He didn’t take the possibility that someone could come along and just bowl the Browns over with an offer, off the table, that would be foolish. However, when asked about what the Browns would want in terms of compensation earlier the TO said a 1st and a 3rd. He also said during his interview that if the Browns where to consider a trade draft position could play a roll. So is the possibility that a trade could be made out there?? Yup sure is, but whomever comes knocking had better be ready to pony up a pretty good offer, is how I read it.

For what it’s worth I agree with the TO, we shouldn’t do anything to risk next season. This team has just crawled off the deck, and should we lose our starter to injury we would risk our season. I cannot even imagine what that might mean, but it would be ugly to say the least. In fact I think it could/would cost the TO’s their jobs. This team cannot take a step back next season, we simply must move forward, and part of moving forward is being or using caution, at what is arguably the most critical position on the team.

The TO’s without saying so are saying that BQ and DA will fight it out in TC, and I think the Browns want BQ to win the job. But hell guys BQ is really really going to have to light it up in TC, to unseat a near PB player. You can pick away at DA all you want, but hell the guy came pretty close to making the PB, in his 1st year as a starter. If by keeping him, and BQ on the roster creates a controversy in the press and within the fan base so be it. We could have a far worse problem, let’s put it that way. Heading into the season gone by I thought we would have a problem with the press and the fans but it never materialized, and so I think it is possible to have 2 players that can fill the QB roll, and for the fans and the media to accept and support whomever the TO decides should be the starter.

Will get a deal done with DA, I am more convinced then ever, that we will in fact get DA signed up to a long term deal. I just don’t see DA not wanting to stay a Brown. You really have to ask yourself a couple of questions.

#1- If you’re DA would you like to remain a Brown?

#2-Is the offer being placed in front of you fair?

#3 Are, you Ok with BQ, playing behind you? or are you OK with playing behind BQ?

The fans no matter where you play are going to boo your ass if you play poorly, so I don’t see that being a factor. It is what it is.

For instance if we trade off DA, and BQ stinks it up, the fans will boo. If DA throws a TD they will cheer, and if he throws an INT they will boo, that’s what it mean to be a NFL QB. So read what you want into the whole DA / BQ thing I do. I don’t see the problem that others do. I believe the TO hit the nail on the head. We want to do what is best for the Browns; I honestly believe having both options available to the Browns is what’s best for the Browns. The players may not think it’s best for them granted, but it is what’s best for the Browns that’s what counts IMHO.

And to me that’s keeping them both and letting this thing play out a bit longer. It’s the safest surest course for the Browns, so that is what the TO’s will do if the TO is good to his word, which I have no reason to believe he won’t be, and neither do you. Take it for what its worth folks DA will more likely then not be a Cleveland Browns next season.

JMHO

Brown to the Bone

As Ed McMahon used to say...."You are correct, sir!".....

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Yeah, he's right to a point, but what he was responding to was a comment by Brown to the bone about him trusting Savage..

While I expect Phil leave himself some wiggle room in his statements, I think if you look back on what Phil has said over the last 3 years, you will see that he's been consistent, honest and forthright.. He's not tried to pull the wool over our eyes..

But yes, he's allowed himself some wiggle room so that he could play the game.. and make no mistake about it, it's gamesmenship that gets you ahead in that business..

Wow, toad I cannot believe you would even attempt to compare the TO to PT Barnum. If it is even remotely possible that the Browns players believe that the TO even comes close to being as deceitful as you are implying we are headed for trouble.

A good portion of the credibility that the TO has worked to build within the orginization will go out the window in a flash.

The only way the TO won't do a deal is if it's not fair, or if DA and his agent have decided that DA is better off someplace else. Or if everyone inside and outside the orginization says wow the Browns made a good deal, otherwise Barnum to the side the TO will do as he says.

I would ask though when has the TO outright lied to anyone including the press... Yes he keeps things to himself, but lies thats really in a whole different league from withhold..

JMHO

Brown to the Bone

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Now seriously, what would any of you really expect Savage or anyone else in the organization to say? What COULD they say, except that they expect Anderson to be the QB next year? To do anything else would be nothing short of assinine for a variety of reasons.

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Yeah...What could he say...

This is actually pretty good...

On one hand u don't want anyone to get the impression that Anderson's NOT gonna be the Starter next year...That could conceivably give any team interested the idea that a High Tender Compensation package is way to much...Doesn't sound good when the team he PLAYS for doesn't think enuff of him...lol...

On the other hand...U don't wanna name him the 2008 STARTER when u intend on negotiating a potential Long-Term Contract...U do that and u just added MILLIONS to said negotiations...THAT is why I believe one of 2 things will happen...

1) Anderson goes to a team willing to give the Compensation tied to a High Tender...

2) Anderson plays 2008 right here under a Signed One Year High Tender of 2+M...

I would be SHOCKED if we signed him to a long-termer...Literally shocked...His agent's gonna want Starters Money...And BIG Starter Money...Knowing what we have in him as of right now...And knowing Quinn's waiting in the wings...We WILL NOT committ long-term to Anderson at this point...

IF by some wild ass chance we do give him a BIG ONE...U best believe the next play is Condon DEMANDING a Quinn TRADE...

This is simple if u ask me...Savage is playin' Anderson up...He has ZERO intentions of signing him Long-Term...Unless it's at Savage's dollars...And there's NO WAY IN HELL Anderson's agent will accept what we offer...WATCH...

Savage is gonna play this to stretch every conceivable Draft Slot outta someone...And this is EXACTLY what he should do...I'd love to sit in a Bar with him TONIGHT and find out where he stands as far as the LOWEST 1st Rounder he'd accept...He SAYS Top 5...Top 10...LMAO...DREAM ON...But if it gets down into the late teens and early 20's???...

Savage has already said that he has instructed the Scouting Team to Scout like we have picks in EVERY ROUND...He's also said he'd be willing to give the 2009 1st Rounder to move up...WHERE???...Into the 1st Round obviously...

Anderson's getting a 1st & 3rd Tender...Anyone bites on an offer and we'll take the picks and run...Or negotiate some kind of deal that MUST INCLUDE a 1st Round pick in 2008 or NO DEAL and Anderson plays under a One Year Tender Offer in 2008...Right here in Cleveland...And NO PRESSURE $$$ wise to Start him over Quinn...2+M ain't squat for a decent back-up...

Damn Brown,,,

Cut with the TO stuff,, I had to go back and reread your other post just to figure out who the hell you were speaking of.... TO I've found = trusted one and that would be Phil Savage... Don't do that to me, I'm old and getting senile as it is. Don't make it worse for me.

Yeah, I got lost there too.
Anyway, I'm glad a lot of you see this as a good thing because it honestly gives me more confidence in what were trying to do. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know everything, so sometimes, seeing everyone else's reactions to something like this gives me more reasons to be positive about it. Look, I'll admit, I have no freakin' clue what Phil is up to here. I can guess and speculate as to what he's doing, but at the end of the day, I can't be sure of anything. I saw the three different segments of the presser on STO last night (thank you Columbus cable market) and I sincerely got the feeling that Phil wants to have DA and Brady on the roster for the 2008 season. Not just "going into" 2008... I'm talking for the whole season. I totally understand the whole 'posturing' thing and why he would be doing that. I do. But I really didn't get the feeling that he was doing that. Call me crazy. I dunno. But I seriously feel that Phil wants them both and he is going to tie them up as long as he can. He alluded to injuries and how that would "derail" our plans for a successful season very quick, and I agree, if we were to only go forward with one guy. He made a comment about teams having unsuccessful campaigns due to QB injuries and the merry-go-round that was the 2007 season in that respect. Now, with all that in mind, I began to think outside the box a little bit. Try this on for size.....

Savage also said that he would be "open to" trading our first-round draft pick in 2009 to get back into the first-round for 2008, provided that one of the (I think he said) "top 15" players on their board was still there. I found this interesting, albeit somewhat hard to believe. He even admitted that it's an "unusual" strategy, but that he'd be willing to go that route if need be. So for what it's worth, I started to think about it. Perhaps, Phil is thinking beyond 2008. Perhaps, he has a long-term plan in mind and would be a freakin' genius in my mind if it ever panned out. What if we trade our '09 pick to move up into the first round this year and grabbed a marquee player that desperately fits a need? Then, we play this season out with DA and BQ. DA has another solid year and maybe we make the playoffs. BQ has had 2 years to sit and learn and NOW we're ready for the transition after 2008. Savage did say he wants to keep both of them for "at least another year". We trade DA (or BQ) and get back into the first round of 2009. Basically, we do what some of you are saying for this year, but we do it a year later. Maybe he IS posturing, but for '09 instead of '08. It sounds ridiculous, but it matches up more with what Phil said than trading DA this off-season does. I may be a fool, but I really honestly believe that DA will be here for the 2008 season. And if I'm wrong, I will happily eat my crow, so long as BQ lights it up. The only thing that makes me want to go back and erase my whole theory that I just concocted, is the fact that we don't know what DAs market value will be worth next off-season. What if he gets hurt? What if he sucks? What if there's a good QB class coming out in '09 (Tebow)? What if all the teams that had hurt QBs this year have healthy ones next year? I don't know. But I think it's a chance Phil is willing to take.

Yeah,, as it turns out, none of us really know what's up in Phils mind.. and to be honest, what he thinks today could change if the "right" opportunity came along.

You know, if someone said to Phil,, hey, you give us DA,, and we'll give you our first rounder this year and next... Man, he may want DA on the team,, but how do you pass up two 1st rounders. (dumb example but you know what I mean)

The right deal and poof,, DA is on a plane to somewhere else in a heartbeat.. I gotta believe that because Phil said, and I am paraphrasing, "whatever is best for the team"! is what he'll do! How else am I supposed to read that other than, if the right set of circumstances comes along, he'll make changes.

j/c

If we tender DA the 1st and 3rd...and no one takes him off our hands...then he leaves as a UFA the following year...what round draft pick do we get as compensation for losing a player to free agency?

Nothing, because we picked him up for free? A 6th - where he was oringinally drafted? Something better due to the 1st & 3rd tender?

I have no clue where to even start researching that.

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I gotta believe that because Phil said, and I am paraphrasing, "whatever is best for the team"! is what he'll do!

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He said that in response to a question a reporter asked him about (and I'm paraphrasing) 'how Brady will feel sitting on the bench another year'. But I agree that Phil has the best interests of the team in mind first and foremost. I just think he also needs to be loyal to the people who are turning this franchise around. Hence, talks about extending DA, RAC and Jamal. This shows the other players in our locker room and around the league (potential Fas) that if you do right by us, we'll do right by you. People will lose a lot of trust in Savage if he starts saying one thing and then does something to the contrary.

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If we tender DA the 1st and 3rd...and no one takes him off our hands...then he leaves as a UFA the following year...what round draft pick do we get as compensation for losing a player to free agency?

Nothing, because we picked him up for free? A 6th - where he was oringinally drafted? Something better due to the 1st & 3rd tender?

I have no clue where to even start researching that.

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If I'm wrong, I pretty sure someone will correct me but:

If we high tender him, meaning that if another team wants him, they have to make him a formal contract offer.. at that point, we have a choice to make, we can match it and retain DA for another year, or we can say,, good luck to DA and bid him farewell.. then we get a 1st and 3rd.

Or we could High Tender him, let him find his market worth, match whatever is offered to him and make it a long term contract,, then he's ours for the length of the contract.

Or we could just trade him outright if someone is willing to give something worthwhile for him..

But if we high tender him, and match the money for one year, then he's a free agent next year and we get nothing for him,.,, NOTHING.. just like SD got for Drew Brees. I hope they DON'T do this one...

My hope is they sign him to a long term deal, then let him and quinn fight it out in camp as to who the starter is.. then we got two very good guys that are more than capable of starting.. What a wonderful position to be in.

Of course, if he doesn't win the starting job, then I supposed that after we are 100% sure of Quinn, DA could be traded away during the year or next off season.

Point is, there are more options then people generally speak of.