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This probably sounds nuts but actually things are working out well.
We began the year with four quarterbacks. Trying to find one out of four except the four were all damaged goods in some way.
None of the four were considered ideal.
Now there are two mid round rookies. Both are long shots. They are getting a chance to play.
They are on a bad team with limited offensive support. Their chances to win every week is slim.
Yet losing is the goal because of the draft order it can put the team in. Nobody likes losing but in this case it is best to lose. You hold your nose and hope the season goes by fast.
There is still a chance that Sanders or even Gabriel could show some progress but not enough to change that the Browns will have to draft another quarterback.
The three top candidates Mendoza, Simpson, and Moore are good prospects but none are in the "Andrew Luck" class as a generational prospect.
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The three top candidates Mendoza, Simpson, and Moore are good prospects but none are in the "Andrew Luck" class as a generational prospect. No, but not many are. Many teams have won championships without a generational talent at QB. Really, all you need is a good QB. The top 3 all look to have the chance to be a good NFL QB. To me there are 4 tiers of NFL QB. Fair, average, good, and great. I said fair out of respect, but if some want to say bad, so be it Fair are the guys who might stick in the league for a number of years as a back-up.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong ![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/small-gator-chomp.gif)
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Peen, I totally agree!
If you use a meter to gauge between average and great, it would tell you how significant the talent around him needs to be.
In my opinion, Gabriel, at this time, is slightly below average. There is something to work with there. We will see with Sanders. Hopefully, we see something similar from him.
Why is this important? Having 2-3 quarterbacks on rookie contracts allows Berry to load up on FA talent around the quarterback. This will give Berry time to rebuild the offense through the draft, keeping the team competitive.
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The three top candidates Mendoza, Simpson, and Moore are good prospects but none are in the "Andrew Luck" class as a generational prospect. No, but not many are. Many teams have won championships without a generational talent at QB. Really, all you need is a good QB. The top 3 all look to have the chance to be a good NFL QB. To me there are 4 tiers of NFL QB. Fair, average, good, and great. I said fair out of respect, but if some want to say bad, so be it Fair are the guys who might stick in the league for a number of years as a back-up. You're not wrong, but my point is that you'd need an Andrew Luck type QB to have any type of success with this supporting cast, starting with the pass protectors. We really should get 2 starting OTs... but we gotta get at least 1 (LT) in this upcoming draft. I'm going to assume, even with the inevitable cap manipulation that's coming, we still won't have the space to make any splashy signings after retaining our FAs that we want to keep. Starter-caliber LTs aren't generally found too far outside the top half of the first round.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Even guys who are considered "can't miss," 'pro-ready" guys end up in the average class.
Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be can't miss.
The three top guys are not that different as prospects.
There may be a couple other guys worth 1st round grades.
I really like John Mateer. He has skills that are unteachable. He is a terrific leader and he is tough as nails.
His game is unpolished and hectic. He plays similar to Mahomes when he was in college.
Mateer will need development just like Josh Allen was developed.
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