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I agree with you except that at least Sanders has shown he can make a decent throw. I know that is not a high bar but it's at least higher than Dillon. I don't really see a must have QB in this next draft. I see some good ones but nothing all that special IMHO. We probably won't be picking at 1 or 2 either way and I don't want to trade up for a QB. I"d rather build up the team so any average QB can do OK first.

This upcoming draft has a LOT of good WRs coming out and I want 2 of them. There are some good offensive linemen and I want at least 3 of them even if we sign some in FA. The thing is they will still need a good year of playing to get any good. So let Sanders have a full year where he is THE MAN and see how he does. I would trade dillon away and probably draft another QB late in the draft to back up Sanders. There is also the option of playing Watson in a pinch if we can't afford the cap hit to cut him. I mean IF we draft a QB in the top 5 of the draft we might not even be able to afford the cap hit for it.

Sanders is not competing against the bar set by Gabriel. That bar is pretty low. Over these next 5 games he is competing against the bar of what the Browns feel is an option when they are on the board with the 1st pick. In 2 starts Sanders has doubled the amount of down the field throws this team has had in the first 10 games. Now can he show that he has as much if not more upside than Mendoza, Simpson, and Moore if one of them was available when the Browns select.

It's hard for me to articulate it, but I do think the offense looks different/better with Sanders in there. The results are the same (I'm not trying to say he's solving all our problems) or anything, but defenses seems a tad looser when he's in there. With Gabriel, it looked like the offense was trying to go through an impenetrable wall and getting nowhere.

I'm sure it's also the defenses they are going against, but I do think the longer passing attempts is helping our offense as a whole. Our offense is too broken for this to make a difference in game outcomes, but it's something to watch.

If Sanders turns out to be mediocre, you risk not having a top 10 draft pick to work with in drafting an actual starter grade QB. You don't squander such an opportunity on "thoughts and prayers".

In this last game Fannin was standing there wide open. Nobody within yards of him. It was a simple pass and catch situation. The only thing Sanders did on that one was find the open man and throw it to a wide open target.

Maybe it's that you just witnessed sucktitude to the point you think mediocrity, if that's even what you can call what we're seeing, is a serious upgrade. There's nothing we've seen from Sanders so far that screams, "Let's just wing it and ignore the QB position when we have a real opportunity to go get one."

All 32 NFL teams in need of a QB evaluated him and decided he wasn't fist, second, third or a fourth round QB prospect. He is the very definition of taking a flyer on a kid.

Exactly and I also agree that we will take a QB in the first round if there is one there that we like. If we do take one in the first round it’s obvious that we feel Sheduer is not the guy. We may keep him around next season to start until whomever we draft is ready and then I feel we will trade him to avoid any distractions. Sheduer may play well enough for a team to give us a draft pick higher than a fifth rounder. Time will tell.

There is certainly a lot more left to play out before the jury is in. On that we agree. I guess my caveat' in all of this is that I feel they would have to "be sure Sanders is the guy" not to draft a QB.

I don't think what they "feel or think" is enough. I don't think that will be enough for them either. They know they need a QB and I believe they know they will most likely have their best opportunity to do so for some time in this upcoming draft. We will i all likelihood have a top 10 pick and I think they know if they move forward and get nothing more than mediocre play from Sanders moving forward they will neither get a top 10 pick moving forward nor will they have a legitimate shot at winning the division for the foreseeable future.

To me that appears to be a lose/lose proposition. I don't really like the idea of combining both of our first round picks to move up in the draft to land a QB, but if they see a guy they think is "their guy" and decide to combine those two first round picks to get him I won't be surprised by it. I know we need a lot more than that but you can build a team around a QB. You can't build a team for a QB first and then end up with the 15th-20th pick in the draft to try to find him. If you look around the league that's a strategy nobody employs.

Of course these are nothing but my own personal opinions but some of us have been following the draft for decades and have a pretty good grasp of how teams in need of a franchise QB operate when they have the opportunity to do so. The Browns opportunity to do so will come this April.