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This sounds like what some fans propose the Browns do by building the team before they draft a QB.

If they were to move on Tomlin I would hope, for the love of all that is Holy, that they will have learned from the DW debacle to go back channel and keep it SILENT until an dry ink announcement is made. Because that's all you need, you make it known you're actively interested in a new guy, then the old guy gets upset and you have to let him go and then the new guy goes somewhere else OR you mortgage the franchise to force his hand... which never works out well. I think if they did that again we could petition Websters dictionary to forever coin that move as "The Brownsian Slide" or similar.

And for the record, I can't imagine Haslam has a great name among owners and coaches, what with his wonderful meddling and glorious track record.

There's one glaring problem I can see here. IF Tomlin were let go, I believe it's logical to believe there would be far more than one team vying for his services. Tomlin has been the HC in Pittsburgh for 19 years now.

How would anyone find it logical that he would take the HC'ing job of one of the Rooney families divisional opponents when he would have other, and quite possibly better options on the table? I certainly don't feel he would think the Browns would be his best option moving forward.

Hiring Tomlin would mean the end for Andrew Berry, IMO.

If things went sideways with the Rooneys maybe he looks to Cleveland as a proper get back. But the Rooneys are smart and not prone to whims. So, they're not as likely to let it end on horrible note.

I actually think the Browns Job is pretty appealing. Berry (assuming he stays) is pretty respected. You have 2 picks in Rd 1 next year, which looks like an ok QB draft. 1, maybe 2 starters. No reason to think we can't end up with one of them. We have a good number of other high picks, tho we may need to part a handful to move up. We had a pretty stellar draft last year aside from the 2 backup QB's we drafted. But where we drafted them isn't so bad for backup QBs. But most importantly, we have a real defense with a generational star at edge and as you allude, he'd likely be given a lot of latitude to shape the roster. As a personality, I LOVE Tomlin in Cleveland. I can't say much about any of the other trendy HC names I've heard this year (please God no to Mike McCarthy or Jim Bob Cooter). If it's not Tomlin, I'd be inclined to stick it out another year with Ski. Believe it or not, I think we're closer than a lot of people think. We draft a decent QB and get just top 20 play (doesn't need to be a star right out of the gates), a whole new OL (not gonna sugar coat it, this might be the hardest part) and a legit #1 WR (Mike Evans?) and this team is suddenly for real. We have the RB & the TE and a few other choice pieces that would thrive if we can just buy another 2 secs for a QB and the WR to get open. The Browns' biggest demerit for a coach IMO is Haslam. He pays well, but he's a buffoon. He sure aint no Rooney.

I do not see the Browns moving on from Berry and Stefanski after this season. Mainly due to the Watson deal. With the cap issues the Browns job will not be very attractive right now for any GM or Head Coach. Berry, Stefanski, and Haslam all know this. I do think the Browns are planning on taking cap hits in 2026 for Njoku, Teller, and Bitinio this year since much of that will be covered by Watson's insurance policy. Then in 2027 the remainder of the Watson deal will get applied to the cap. Either in dead cap if he is cut after June 1 next year of him remaining on the team in 2027 until his deal expires. After that point the Browns would become a much more desirable job for a new GM and Coach if Berry or Stefanski have not turned the titanic around yet. Another reason they will more than likely go all in on a QB in next year's draft. Solving the QB situation is there only hope with a young roster and about to get younger yet in 2026 with 10 scheduled draft picks and more than likely a couple more undrafted free agents playing key roles next year.

Tomlin would be a great get for the Browns as a franchise if for nothing else to create the culture needed to be consistent winners. Let's face it year in year out winning records even with first round playoff loses would get you a statue built outside the new stadium. I think if the Browns were to move on from anyone it would be Stefanski since they have Jim Schwartz in house and he would be the likely next coach of the Browns at this point.