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PitDAWG #2130873 01/12/26 12:58 PM
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Harbaugh will look at every factor. He knows the NFL inside and out.

Every team looking for a head coach including the Ravens are far from perfect.

We have a great defense with near every player under contract. That counts.

However, offensively we need a make over.

The other teams? Dart and the Giants won 4 games? Titans and Ward won three? The Raider's have the first pick. They need it. Really bad team and he would have to play his brother twice a year. The Falcons are ok but does he like Penix?

Money? Sure, but he has more money than he will ever need.

He wants to win and as soon as possible.

Watson? Yes his contract ends. He might see him as a now guy or a bridge. He will consider our 2026 draft pick slots. Maybe he likes Ty Simpson a guy we could get.

Hell he will do what makes the most sense to him. Haslam might grant him his every wish.

We have a new stadium being built? I am sure he is looking at this as his last NFL job.

He will be offered the jobs he interviews for.

When I saw the list of guys we are looking at. I think desperation.

If I were Haslam I would consider offering part ownership. I am serious. I would make him president and turn it over to him.

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My biggest concern with Harbaugh is that he is very similar to Stefanski in one big way ....... that he refused to get rid of ineffective coordinators.


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Not a concern.

Look at the candidates. I mean to me there is no debate that he is the most qualified.

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You point out how few games Dart and Ward won yet overlooked their progress and their potential as QB's.

And allow me to point something else out to you. I have pointed out why most NFL teams address the QB position first and then build the team around their QB's afterwords. This what both the Titans and Giants are doing. You yourself said you would never compete for a championship without a top tier QB. So it makes sense that rookie QB's Would have a losing record since the process of building the team around them is in the beginning stage.

So wouldn't it stand to reason that in their rookie years, before the team is built around them, that the win totals would be low?

That's something Harbaugh may see that we don't have and can't offer. A legitimate franchise QB prospect for him to build around.

It seems odd that you yourself claimed it isn't reasonable to think Harbaugh would seriously consider being HC of the Browns and now seem to doing quite the opposite.

Offer him part ownership? I understand that while you are somewhat older than I am, not by that much. I understand that we are both desperate for the Browns to win a Super Bowl before our days on this earth are done. But I also understand that the Haslam's have no motivation to give up part ownership to land a HC.

If I were in their shoes instead of in mine neither would I.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Before I say anything I'll mention that if I had to put money on a bet then I'd lean the way you just laid out.

That said, I'm not sure coaches motivations are so cut and dry. I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Harbaugh could see past the Browns history and see an opportunity to set himself apart (succeed where others have failed). Haslam has a history of meddling, but also has a history of doing whatever he can to help construct a roster. Remember, what we did with Watson (back when he was still considered an elite QB) was unprecedented and something few owners could manage.

I'll also repeat something I said before... he's a Harbaugh. I'd find it hard to believe he hasn't thought about potentially sticking it each year to the team that cut him loose.
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Some coaches and players are motivated by their legacy. Some are motivated by revenge. Any team with a dismal record at the bottom of their division that you rebuild into a perennial winner and super bowl champ would set you apart. Overlooking better opportunities to accomplish that strictly for the sake of vengeance would show a lack of common sense.

You both make a lot of sense. I don't think revenge and setting himself apart would feed enough ego to look beyond the downside though.

Perennial loser that seems to have a curse, owner that meddles, alienate the very fans that hold you the highest by joining a division rival. If you fail you go from elite to the brunt of jokes. Yes, everyone will still recognize your body of work; but still - the brunt of jokes.

This simply isn't appealing enough. If we were locked and loaded and this was a draft class like 2018? Maybe. But there is no QB on this team and none that jumps off the page (that you can feasibly draft) in the draft. The owner is already saying the DC stays. No matter how you slice it, we are probably the least attractive destination. And while we may offer a stab at immortality and revenge, the downside is just way too down.


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IMO the jury is still out on both Ward and Dart.

However, Harbaugh will have his own take.

I am not changing my POV. I don't think we will get him.

There are many things we don't know and will never know.

True cap space. What Harbaugh thinks of Berry and Haslam. The same with the other teams.

His true opinion of all the teams rosters and contracts etc.

I will say this. Haslam will listen to all the others. He will jump for Harbaugh.

I don't think it was ever expected that Haslam would guarantee DW contract.

I don't know what he will do to get Harbaugh.

You can bet Harbaugh will have conditions.

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I’d start fresh…new city, new team and new conference. I don’t want to go into my last teams place once a year. Too much unnecessary added stress. Willing to bet that’s what he does.

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