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You weren't asking me, but he strikes me as an innovative coordinator but just doesn't have the leadership ability to be a good HC.


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You weren't asking me, but he strikes me as an innovative
coordinator but just doesn't have the leadership ability to be a good HC.

A concern but…some guys are stifled by those above them and some only blossom when given the chance. The question would be…was he and is he either of those?

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Schwartz is low on my list of choices. I really do not see the point of hiring him as HC.

Same.


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Schwartz is low on my list of choices. I really do not see the point of hiring him as HC. I would rather see a new voice to lead the team. Schwartz has had two elite defenses with us the past two years. How many HC interviews has he had in that time? One? Is that correct? Hm, why is that.

Agree. I like Schwartz. I have zero interest in him being named HC.

Are you counting his interview with the Browns as his lone HC interview? I do not recall any others, including prior years as the Browns DC.

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Might sound crazy, I think McDaniel is my top choice at the moment.

Same. Landing the guy that penned the 32 point Power Point for Shanahan is also near the top of my list. Sign me up for Miami Mike (and his eyewear).

I don’t consider Harbaugh a realistic option.

Yes, I am counting Schwartz's interview with us as his only one.

Edit: I am not 100% if that is true or not. I just don't remember him being interviewed by anyone else.

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Originally Posted by 1oldMutt
Originally Posted by oobernoober
You weren't asking me, but he strikes me as an innovative
coordinator but just doesn't have the leadership ability to be a good HC.

A concern but…some guys are stifled by those above them and some only blossom when given the chance. The question would be…was he and is he either of those?

Couldn't agree more. Sometimes situations become untenable and only a change will paint an accurate picture. There is no clear evidence in the NFL until "fool me twice".

That said, Oobs, that seems to be the consensus after a quick look under the hood.


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What's the scoop with Mike, anyway? He was lauded as an offensive genius, and I know things have been very inconsistent, but how did he end up on the scrap heap so quickly??

That is a good question.

Oober brought up one of the main reasons I want him. Offensive innovator. That offense was dangerous when Tua was not being concussed. He had them going with a run game too. He had a vision of what he wanted his offense to be (speed) and it was put in action. IMO, I think he is good to excellent in play development. What I mean by this is the spacing of WRs, routes, and overall execution of the players. The Browns routes just looked sloppy and overall execution has looked rough (though I give them some leeway regarding young players).

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Originally Posted by ScottPlayersFacemask
Yes, I am counting Schwartz's interview with us as his only one.

Edit: I am not 100% if that is true or not. I just don't remember him being interviewed by anyone else.

As if on cue…


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My post 1/8 in the CBC Leading Head Coaching Candidates thread


My personal rankings for the Browns next HC

1, Chris Shula DC LAR
2, Jessie Minter DC LAC
3, Mario Cristobal HC Miami Hurricanes
4, Jim Schwartz DC Clevelan Browns

Out of left field: Grant Udinski OC Jacksonville Jaguars

My prediction?
Mike McCarthy: IMO Hue Jackson 2.0


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He is a little interesting.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
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Yes, I am counting Schwartz's interview with us as his only one.

Edit: I am not 100% if that is true or not. I just don't remember him being interviewed by anyone else.

As if on cue…


Haha, nice

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
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Yes, I am counting Schwartz's interview with us as his only one.

Edit: I am not 100% if that is true or not. I just don't remember him being interviewed by anyone else.

As if on cue…


He should get the job based on that sideline pose alone.


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Yes, I am counting Schwartz's interview with us as his only one.

Edit: I am not 100% if that is true or not. I just don't remember him being interviewed by anyone else.

As if on cue…


He should get the job based on that sideline pose alone.

rofl

I was thinking the same thing. If that isn't the look of a guy in charge, I don't know what is.


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I wonder how many of these interviews are actually interviews for offensive coordinator


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Haslam has made it clear we want to keep Jim.

Well then. What will he do if offered both jobs?

If he gets a head coach offer. He is not going to be our DC.

Sometimes when you look at the NFL.

It seems like soap opera. Who is effing who and who knows?

We fire KS. He could go to Baltimore. Harbaugh gets fired and he could land here.

The Steelers don't fire guys. They retire.

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I would not feel bad if it ends up Schwartz and Rees stays as OC.

It would be ok with McDaniel as OC.

But really I like Tommy Rees and he knows the roster. I am uncertain about Shedeur but Rees might be his best choice.

I don't think he is ready to be head coach. It would be hard to hire a staff. He doesn't have experience at all on defense.

I sure don't see Schwartz under Rees.

So Schwartz and away we go.

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I would consider Schwartz, It would depend upon his plan forthe offense and special teams, but if he has a good plan, heck yeah.


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j/c...

If Schwartz has expressed real interest and is even remotely opposed to staying at DC, I'm slow-playing my lukewarm interest until I've interviewed everyone on my list. I think Schwartz is a clear Plan B in a field of Plan As.


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I'll bet his sideline signals would be pretty cool with those 3 arms!


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Noooo. That's the cheerleader's hand pulling him back to the celebration. He's irresistible!

(First rendering showed him with no left hand; when I pointed it out, Chat gave him two... I gave up 🤣)


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If we're going to trade for a coach, can we make it DeMeco Ryans?


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If this organization trades draft capital for a coach someone needs strung up…

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DYK?

In 2014, the Browns "made a real play" for then-49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh, offering a pair of third-round picks, according to Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer. Harbaugh himself ultimately decided against the trade, and he later become Michigan's head coach in 2015.

https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/st...istory-sean-payton-and-more/79187475007/

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All these coaches' names being thrown around by the media, for all the teams searching, not just the Browns, sort of reminds me of the draft hype and smokescreens that teams throw around. I would love to have a favorite but I have no idea who the best candidate would be, much less if they would be interested in the Browns.

I hope the guy they hire is the right one and we have another solid draft like last year, but to me we need several OL, WR help, maybe even another CB, before we draft a QB high.

Regarding Stefanski, I liked him, and did questions some of his decisions, but I remember thinking how creative he was when during the 2023 season, the variety of 4th and 1 plays they used when Harrison Bryant came in to take snaps. It almost seemed like a different play each time. So much so, I don't know how you defend that formation to stop one yard. I have heard rumblings he was too easy on players and wasn't enough of a disciplinarian regarding accountability.

I also don't blame KS for Baker's situation. I think Baker was not mature enough at the time. I think it took a couple of teams sending him away to give that chip on his shoulder.

He has played well at TB, but I also think he has been inconsistent. Saying that, with the way our teams' D played the last 2 years, I think he might have been a guy who could have taken us deep in the playoff had his head been right if he stayed.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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Fun read here in the ESPN HC prediction story...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-falcons-raiders-browns-titans-cardinals

Stefanski to the Ravens / McDaniel to the Browns


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If that is the plan, draft capital for a coach, just save time and award the HC position to Watson. Already wasted it on him once, can average down his salary, just makes Browns sense. I am kidding, just don't consider it too long.

Imagine the purple print.


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They've got Stefanski going to Baltimore... poke Sigh.




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