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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
If she was not there where she does not belong doing what she was doing this would not have happened and even after that.

Ah yes - the so far unbeaten legal defense of "Your honor, if the victim wasn't present, I would not have killed them."


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Self-defense plain and simple.

The first shot was.

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If she was not there where she does not belong doing what she was doing this would not have happened and even after that

Being on a public street where she did not belong or blocking traffic where she did not belong? Neither of those call for the death penalty. If ICE hadn't been in mass in a decent public neighborhood playing storm troopers none of this would have happened either. If they were actually looking for illegals based on evidence instead of stopping everyone who is brown and detaining many of them with no cause other than they are brown and have an accent none of this would have happened either.

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then if she would have just complied with the officers, she would not be dead. Her fault plain and simple.

Not following orders of an ICE agent doesn't carry the death penalty unless you live in Trumplandia. Plain and simple.

Since the people who carried out the Boston Tea Party stole and destroyed between what would be worth 2-3 million dollars today you would have probably been a British loyalist calling for them to be hanged as well. History would not have treated you kind then and once it's written history won't treat you kind in the future.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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Self-defense plain and simple.

The first shot was.

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If she was not there where she does not belong doing what she was doing this would not have happened and even after that

Being on a public street where she did not belong or blocking traffic where she did not belong? Neither of those call for the death penalty. If ICE hadn't been in mass in a decent public neighborhood playing storm troopers none of this would have happened either. If they were actually looking for illegals based on evidence instead of stopping everyone who is brown and detaining many of them with no cause other than they are brown and have an accent none of this would have happened either.

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then if she would have just complied with the officers, she would not be dead. Her fault plain and simple.

Not following orders of an ICE agent doesn't carry the death penalty unless you live in Trumplandia. Plain and simple.

Since the people who carried out the Boston Tea Party stole and destroyed between what would be worth 2-3 million dollars today you would have probably been a British loyalist calling for them to be hanged as well. History would not have treated you kind then and once it's written history won't treat you kind in the future.

ICE is gathering and removing criminals and people in our country illegally. There is a difference. Crime being dealt with by ICE officers and idiotic citizens opposing them from doing their duty. There is no justification for what these idiots are doing.


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What there's no excuse for is ICE detaining people who are here legally which they do a lot of the time. There's also no excuse for them detaining U.S citizens which they have done quite often. If they were in any way acting like standard law enforcement, if they were using probable cause to detain people which our laws call for instead of acting like a paramilitary force none of this would be happening.

All you are doing is ignoring their actions to paint the picture that it's everyone's fault but theirs.

I will give you one thing, if she hadn't been there they couldn't have killed her. But she had as much right to be there as they did.

And those damned Boston Tea Party thugs?


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7 Agents with Rifles Pull an 80 year old man out of his house (without a warrant) -- don't let him put on a shirt (it's -30 wind chill in minneapolis) and drag him to a car.

Turns out he's a US citizen.

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Actions such as these are fully justified because you know ICE and they are rooting out immigrants. So as they said on the Wizard of Oz, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"

Haven't you heard? If you want to make a cake you have to crack open few eggs.


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Strong words from panzy-azz Tampon Timmy's spokesperson though: "He in no way supports interrupting a place of worship".


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Strong words from panzy-azz Tampon Timmy's spokesperson though: "He in no way supports interrupting a place of worship".



These people are insane and it is not slowing down.


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ICE agents are terrifying children and people in neighborhoods all across this country and I've never heard you say anything about that.

#selectiveoutrage

But then again I don't support either of those things because both of them are wrong.


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Why do your posts never show that they've been edited? Not being a dolt, just wondering. Is it a timeframe thing?


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No, you have the option at the bottom to show if it's been edited or not. If I quickly notice an error or have something to add I choose not to show it as edited.

As I just did here. There is a box at the bottom of the comment box that reads "Mark As Edited". The box has a check mark in it. Click on the check mark and it will not show it as being edited.


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Wow. I thought that was automatic. Didn't realize it was optional but noticed some people's post never showed as edited. Thanks!

Edit: Yep, now I see the checkmark.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
ICE agents are terrifying children and people in neighborhoods all across this country and I've never heard you say anything about that.

#selectiveoutrage

But then again I don't support either of those things because both of them are wrong.

When you say "terrifying", do you mean like "wow, that was scary", or like life-changing-haunting-horrifying-never-normal-again "terrifying"?



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I know that somehow in trumplandia people think showing an isolated incident implies that applies in every or even most situations. Normal people understand that's not true.

There goes that cheap hooker in a dark alley thing again. naughtydevil


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Sweet.

Do "normal people" care about the kids being raped by illegals?
Do "normal people" care about the females that have been raped and murdered?
Do "normal people" care about the 300,000 kids that crossed Sleepy's border that are 100% unaccounted for... that have been sold into sex trades and other things you would deem as "slavery"?
What about all the ones killed by illegals with no driver's license, driving skills or even ability to read traffic signs?

It seems like "normal people" on left don't care at all. And, no question, their news channels definitely couldn't care less.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
They won't even allow state and local aw enforcement to have any information much less the rest of us. There is a reason for that. If there weren't a reason for it they would have released it.

There is a reason...it's called HIPPA. The info given is vague because that is about all you can provide.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
So now you think disobeying an order from ICE deserves the death penalty?

She wasn't attempting to use her vehicle as a weapon. The video clearly shoes that.

The first shot was legitimate. I understand how the agent may have been in fear of his life. The last two shots were not.

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Why was she there? Why was she obstructing justice? Why did she disobey an order?

Look up the penalty under law for this BS you listed, the penalty under law does not call for the death penalty so none of that makes sense.


I honestly don't care how you arrive at your thinking.. She was shot and killed by an ice agent... Murdered is a better word..


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
ICE agents are terrifying children and people in neighborhoods all across this country and I've never heard you say anything about that.

#selectiveoutrage

But then again I don't support either of those things because both of them are wrong.


and once again the FAR left, and far right is where all the problems come from. While the 60 percent of us in the middle get hit with all the crap they fling around.


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ICE Has Stopped Paying for Detainee Medical Treatment - https://popular.info/p/exclusive-ho...utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

They are legally obligated to provide treatment for detainees in custody (similar to any jail) - which they do by third-party contracts. But they have announced that they will not process these claims, causing third-party contractors to refuse to treat detainees.

Meanwhile there were 4 detainee deaths in ICE detention from January 1 - January 9 already (on pace for 162 deaths this year, compared to ~7 a year over the last 20 years). One death has already been declared a homicide, as witnesses allege that guards choked a detainee to death: https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/15/ice-detention-death-homicide/


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I encourage people to read this court ruling in the Tischer vs. Noem case - which speaks to a pattern of violations of the 1st and 4th amendment. The judge also does a great job going through (with quotations) what ICE "said happened" immediately after each incident, vs. what "video shows happened" in the same incidents. https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/minnesota/mndce/0:2025cv04669/229758/85/0.pdf

NY Times Coverage: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/18/us/minneapolis-federal-agents-misconduct-protesters.html


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Originally Posted by Lyuokdea
The judge also does a great job going through (with quotations) what ICE "said happened" immediately after each incident, vs. what "video shows happened" in the same incidents.
Read my signature !

Sadly it doesn't matter what the truth is to many - they get fed the lies and spin and the their zone has been flooded with excrement - quite deliberately. So facts don't resonate any more, their minds are closed.


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Originally Posted by FATE
Sweet.

Do "normal people" care about the kids being raped by illegals?
Do "normal people" care about the females that have been raped and murdered?
Do "normal people" care about the 300,000 kids that crossed Sleepy's border that are 100% unaccounted for... that have been sold into sex trades and other things you would deem as "slavery"?
What about all the ones killed by illegals with no driver's license, driving skills or even ability to read traffic signs?

It seems like "normal people" on left don't care at all. And, no question, their news channels definitely couldn't care less.

"Normal people" care about those things when "anyone" does them. They focus on all of those crimes and horrible things committed by every criminal without pointing to a small portion of the population that's committing a fraction of them in order to demonize that portion of the population. That's the only difference here.

Normal people don't believe that's an excuse to detain citizens that have done none of those things and to hunt down people that have committed no serious or violent crimes like animals.

I mean if you want to talk about normal people.

Oddly enough over the past five years violent crime has been going down, not up. Seems all of your "illegals bad!" BS isn't supported by the numbers.

Slurp......


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They won't even allow state and local aw enforcement to have any information much less the rest of us. There is a reason for that. If there weren't a reason for it they would have released it.

There is a reason...it's called HIPPA. The info given is vague because that is about all you can provide.

Autopsies and cause of death are not covered under HIPPA laws. I mean you made it sound good but that has nothing to do with this.


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Is being raped by an illegal somehow worse than being raped by someone who is a citizen? Or is the understanding that, of the total rapes that are committed, a significant portion are done by illegals?


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