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Actually the Pats turned it around in one year. During the regular season they went 4-13 in 2023, 4-13 in 2024 and went 14-3 in 2025.

This being the only post that references QB in the title means I keep putting QB stuff in this one. How psyched is Vegas to have the #1 pick right now? Mendoza looks every bit the part. If I were them, there'd be almost no price high enough.

Just a thought. Is Carson Beck or Drew Allar QB’s we should consider in the 3-4 round if they are available or should we just go with what we have ?

Carson Beck is going to make some NFL team a good QB. Nobody knows what the Browns will do with the QB position until they first name a coach and decide what direction they will go. Do they trade for a Matt Jones or try to sign Maliek Willis? Will they be able to swing a trade to acquire a 1st for the 2027 draft and hedge all bets for a new QB then? Does the new coach want to see if Sanders can develop into a starting QB? Does Watson have anything left in the tank? The easiest prediction is season starts with Sanders and Watson is your veteran backup. He did work well with Sanders last year by all accounts. I think if that is the case they will draft a developmental guy mid rounds in this year's draft. I am not sure who really liked Allar, but reports were last year that the Browns liked Drew Allar. Was that Berry or Stefanski? If Berry, he may be targeted again in this draft. I think the only obvious thing is Gabriel more than likely will be gone or reduce to practice squad.

I wouldn't be surprised if, as part of these conversations with these young OCs, the Browns ask what is the viability of bringing Watson back to his old form. There have been reclamation projects in the NFL these past few years-- Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, Trevor Lawrence, hell even Baker Mayfield to a degree. I wouldn't be surprised if they probe on this if nothing more but to see how the candidates respond.

A very plausible scenario. We have no less than 5 options at the QB position. It will be interesting to see what avenue we take.

Beck - no thanks. There's a reason he has been in college for the last 6 years - he sucks, quite frankly.

Allar - thought he was the real but his last 2 years were meh.

Actually his stats and play looked pretty good last year. But this year he hasn't lived up to the hype.

Last year he threw for a 66.5% completion rate, 3327 yards with 24 td's and 8 int's.

He only played 6 games this season so it's a small sample size but he still threw for 64.8% with 8 td's and 3 int's .

I'm not advocating the Browns draft him. I'm just showing your portrayal is not accurate.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-allar-1.html

Check his numbers against quality competition in 2024 (ie. Notre Dame, OSU, Oregon, and USC). Same in 2025 (ie. Oregon).

His best year was 2023. Since 2023 and against quality competition he has been average at best, in my opinion.

And I admit I didn't have a strong read on Drake Maye. He seemed like a guy that could break either way after last season and most of those guys don't take the good break. But damn, did he turn it on. He was in place though.

But... they added a ton of key role players; WR's Steffon Diggs and Hollins, DT Milt Williams, Carlton Davis, robert Spillane, OT Morton Moses. And Josh Dobbs who's like a second QB coach. They also got two OL starter in the draft who look very solid as well as Treyvon Henderson. That is quite the one year haul. I'm not saying we couldn't do it. We may actually have more talent than they did before that haul, but they nailed the off season. Most importantly, they had the QB in place, who picked the perfect moment to bloom.

I think the same. I only saw him play against the toughest games in 2024 and I saw he was promoted a potential first round pick, at least in September. I thought how can that be? I then looked up his stats and saw his big yardage and TD #s. So I researched his game by game and his numbers in 2024 came against bad or average teams. I read that in 2024 his completion % against the 4 toughest opponents was 48%.

Drake Maye had a very underwhelming college career especially Senior year, but he turned out fine.

I think it may simply boil down to what we think "meh" means. While I don't think he was by any means close to a top rated QB, I thought he played well above average overall. I think that's pretty obvious. So to me that raises the bar to well above "meh". I get it if you disagree.

They also had the benefit of playing dang-near nobody this year. Their regular season schedule perfectly lined up (especially down the stretch) playing teams while they were dinged up/slumping. I think they are the biggest example of fool's gold and I predict a Houston-esque turd when they play a quality team. They were only able to put up 16 vs the Chargers (a good D) but luckily they were able to tee off on Herbert whose line is in shambles, and were gifted the next game ala Stroud. IMO, their only marquee wins would be sweeping Buffalo (who was beat up on D for the second game, but still a tough one).

I also expect a significant regression next year.