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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I don't think Stefanksi has hired a DC yet. naughtydevil

He did. He kept the DC that was there. I forgot the name it was the father of the son who prank called Shedeur during the draft.


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I don't think Stefanksi has hired a DC yet. naughtydevil

He did. He kept the DC that was there. I forgot the name it was the father of the son who prank called Shedeur during the draft.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
He did the right thing for himself and his career. While we have fans whining because the Browns have to follow the same rules as the other 31 teams do.

Can't make it up!

You just did make it up.

No one said the rule is unfair to the Browns. Everyone merely said it's stupid.


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Yet it's only now that people are claiming it's egregious. This is not just the Rooney rule that is being complained about. It's specifically about this situation on how it effects the Browns in a very unusual circumstance. As per usual timing is everything.


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Yes, timing is everything. Maybe you live in a cave, but this is the first time we're hiring a HC since the rule change.

And, oh yeah, this is a Browns message board as well. That would explain why people may be relating it to the Browns' situation; crazy, I know. Maybe go scour some other teams' message boards so you can see if we're the only "whiners"?

The question remains... not that you probably want to engage in actual conversation when you can hurl insults... why would any team be forced to hire a second minority when they've already accomplished the goal of the rule itself by hiring the minority??


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And, oh yeah, this is a Browns message board as well. That would explain why people may be relating it to the Browns' situation; crazy, I know.


It seems in your frustration you actually agree with me.

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The question remains... not that you probably want to engage in actual conversation when you can hurl insults... why would any team be forced to hire a second minority when they've already accomplished the goal of the rule itself by hiring the minority??

You'll have to ask the NFL why they establish their rules. I'm not a billionaire with a team of lawyers.

The rules in any sport, be it the NFL, NBA or any other for that member, are the same for every team that belongs in that league. It is no more fair or unfair for the Browns than it is all of the other 31 NFL teams.

Yes, they are only complaining about the rule now because it's about the Browns just like I said. Thanks for agreeing with me. thumbsup


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Okay......

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This says more about the Browns' opening than anything I've yet read.

Maybe... but as someone who didn't want anything to do with MM as a head coach, IMO it's a savvy move on his part. He's an innovative offensive coordinator on a team with weapons that just needs (and has acknowledged) that they need to upgrade the offensive line talent (oh yeah, and they have a good complementary defense). He'll be able to flex his coordinator muscles and build back his argument to be a HC in short order.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I don't think Stefanksi has hired a DC yet. naughtydevil

He was asked to keep the current DFC, and agreed.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I don't think Stefanksi has hired a DC yet. naughtydevil

He was asked to keep the current DFC, and agreed.


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Could you repeat that one more time? naughtydevil


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Jesse Minter cancelled his 2nd interview with us.

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Jesse Minter cancelled his 2nd interview with us.



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It is very disappointing that Minter and McDaniel have cancelled interviews with the Browns but can you really blame them?

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I feel that if the Browns are going to hire a defensive head coach.

It has to be Schwartz. The defensive players on the Browns love the guy. Schwartz has been a great hire.

The defensive performance proves that. If Schwartz was younger he would be the hot guy to hire.

McDaniel made the decision that fits him now. It is understandable that he resets his market and takes the Chargers job. They are a playoff team with a great QB.

If we can add a OC who can help develop a quarterback and bring an offense that will work for the Browns. Schwartz is the right head coach.

He knows how to run a team and hold players accountable. He brings a brand of toughness.

IMO he would be the safest hire.

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Honestly, I'm not that disappointed. I understand the optics... but I didn't have either candidate high on my list.

Also, his preferred style of defense doesn't totally fit our personnel (zone-heavy, and he likes to disguise pressure vs generating it from the front).


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Originally Posted by bonefish
I feel that if the Browns are going to hire a defensive head coach.

It has to be Schwartz. The defensive players on the Browns love the guy. Schwartz has been a great hire.

The defensive performance proves that. If Schwartz was younger he would be the hot guy to hire.

McDaniel made the decision that fits him now. It is understandable that he resets his market and takes the Chargers job. They are a playoff team with a great QB.

If we can add a OC who can help develop a quarterback and bring an offense that will work for the Browns. Schwartz is the right head coach.

He knows how to run a team and hold players accountable. He brings a brand of toughness.

IMO he would be the safest hire.

I am meh on Schwartz, he is just not a very good head coach

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Originally Posted by BrownsFan12345
Originally Posted by bonefish
I feel that if the Browns are going to hire a defensive head coach.

It has to be Schwartz. The defensive players on the Browns love the guy. Schwartz has been a great hire.

The defensive performance proves that. If Schwartz was younger he would be the hot guy to hire.

McDaniel made the decision that fits him now. It is understandable that he resets his market and takes the Chargers job. They are a playoff team with a great QB.

If we can add a OC who can help develop a quarterback and bring an offense that will work for the Browns. Schwartz is the right head coach.

He knows how to run a team and hold players accountable. He brings a brand of toughness.

IMO he would be the safest hire.

I am meh on Schwartz, he is just not a very good head coach

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Based upon what?

He was a head coach in Detroit. He did ok.

Coaches move around their success is dependent upon many factors. It is not only on the head coach.

The Browns organization knows JS. They should know if he can do it.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
Based upon what?

He was a head coach in Detroit. He did ok.

Coaches move around their success is dependent upon many factors. It is not only on the head coach.

The Browns organization knows JS. They should know if he can do it.


Based on his head coach record which is 29 wins and 52 losses which is terrible and he did not do okay

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There is context as there is with every head coach situation.

It does mean he will be a bad coach in Cleveland.

But if you don't like him. Do as you please don't like him.

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Originally Posted by BrownsFan12345
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Based upon what?

He was a head coach in Detroit. He did ok.

Coaches move around their success is dependent upon many factors. It is not only on the head coach.

The Browns organization knows JS. They should know if he can do it.


Based on his head coach record which is 29 wins and 52 losses which is terrible and he did not do okay

You are correct about his record as HC...but that was 13 years ago...and he's been in the league for most of those 13 years. KS got a 2nd chance...why not JS

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JS was hired in Jan of 2023.

They have first hand experience with him. He was the head coach of the defense.

It is understandable that with the needs on offense and the quarterback situation that an offensive head coach would be preferred.

However, JS has a ton of experience. He was the DC with the Eagles when they won the Super Bowl in 2018.

He knows football. He will have a detailed plan for the offense and who he wants as OC.

IMO he makes sense for this team at this time.

That does not mean someone else cannot be a good head coach.

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I think the biggest ingredients in a HC is having the ability to recognize and hire the right Coordinators combined with the ability to delegate responsibilities to their staff.

In the case of JS he really only has to be concerned about those things with the O side of the ball. He has already established his staff and coaching on the D side and has proven his success in that department. So one half of a new coaching staff is already in place.

That cuts down on the complications of hiring a new HC and the transition involved in that process.

Now can JS accomplish finding the right person to run the O and delegate the responsibility to that person without too much interference? I have no idea. It's hard for a HC to do that because their name and future are on the line. And some people in charge are just total control freaks. But as long as he has been in and around the league, it is my opinion that he could draw much better candidates to run the O than some of the no names I see on the list of HC candidates.


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He’s our best option for many of the reasons already mentioned. We hire JS as HC the D stays the same a big plus. We have a top five D that would have been even better if we had an O that was competent enough to keep them off the field more. The players respect him and play hard for him which is important.

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who knows, Udinski might not make it out of Buffalo after Sunday.
Schwartz may be the last man standing anyway…

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I think hiring an offensive guy makes sense.

However, the circumstances of the Browns situation are different from other situations.

We need his experience with where the Browns are now. He knows this team.

He is a leader of men and the players know that.

He has plenty of resources to draw upon from his experience and knowledge of the league to put together an offensive staff.

Udinski and Scheelhaase could become great head coaches down the line. But the Cleveland job IMO is not right for them at this point in time.

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I like Schwartz because I think he has the mentality that our team needs at this point. I also get the feeling he's a better HC candidate than back when he was in Detroit.

If they do hire him, I do hope they do the OC hire like they did when they brought Schwartz in as DC... as in they should hire a "HC of the offense". That person is going to have their work cut out for them in terms of implementing their offense and helping develop younger players.


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