If the facts of what's going on in Minneapolis that I stated sound racist to you, maybe that should tell you something. I mean after all you're the one who brought up the word racist. I do know that a lot of people who are brown are being targeted just because they're brown. Even off duty police officers that are brown have been targeted. You can choose to call that anything you see fit.
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So, where are all the violent protests in Texas and Florida? I mean, they're arresting nearly 15 TIMES the illegals. What's different?
I haven't heard of anyone being killed by ICE in any of those locations.
January 2026, widespread "ICE Out for Good" protests erupted across Florida, with significant demonstrations in Orlando, Gainesville, Jacksonville, Stuart, and Vero Beach, driven by outrage over intensified immigration enforcement and a fatal agent-involved shooting in Minneapolis. Protesters demand the abolition of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), citing violent, abusive practices, and opposing a proposed 1,500-bed detention center in Orlando.
January 2026, widespread protests erupted across Texas—including Houston, Austin, Dallas, and San Antonio—targeting increased ICE operations and the fatal shooting of a woman by an ICE agent in Minneapolis. Demonstrators are protesting heightened, Trump-era deportation policies and the use of local jails for arrests, with events continuing in response to increased federal enforcement.
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Man shot and killed by federal agents identified as Alex Pretti
The man's parents confirmed the 37-year-old man's death to the Associated Press.
MINNEAPOLIS — The man shot and killed by a federal agent in Minneapolis on Saturday has been identified as Alex Pretti.
The Associated Press reported Pretti's parents confirmed his identity, and that he worked as an ICU nurse.
State records show Pretti was issued a nursing license in 2021. KARE also confirmed he worked for some time at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs as a nurse.
Members of the Minneapolis Senate delegation released a statement also identifying Pretti.
"While we wait for more details, we share our deepest condolences to Alex Pretti, his family and friends, and the entire community impacted by this violence. We pledge to do everything in our power to make sure that those responsible are held accountable," the statement reads, led by DFL Senate President Bobby Jo Champion.
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara previously said the man killed was a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident, a U.S. citizen, and a legal gun owner.
Family members told the AP was an avid outdoorsman who loved getting in adventures with Joule, his beloved Catahoula Leopard dog, who also recently died. He had participated in protests following the killing of Renee Good by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Law Enforcement officer earlier this month.
“He cared about people deeply and he was very upset with what was happening in Minneapolis and throughout the United States with ICE, as millions of other people are upset,” said Michael Pretti, Alex’s father. “He felt that doing the protesting was a way to express that, you know, his care for others.”
In a recent conversation with their son, his parents, who live in Wisconsin, told him to be careful when protesting.
“We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid, basically,” Michael Pretti said. “And he said he knows that. He knew that.”
The Department of Homeland Security said that the man was shot after he “approached” U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun. Officials did not specify if Pretti brandished the gun, and it is not visible in bystander videos of the shooting.
ICE kills another INNOCENT citizen for exercising their 1st and 2nd amendment rights. Here comes the muttonheaded right to defend it… straight trash. We told you MAGA, Trump is an idiot and a fascist; do you hear us now? Smfh, you can’t undo this damage without heads rolling, imho. Noem< Trump and the whole damn barrel of NAZIS should be immediately removed from office, sent to a jail for crimes against humanity, and executed very damn publicly asap.
And for the DTers still support agent orange and his gravy gestapo made up of white supremacist, militia dolts, and NAZIS; I find you revolting and want zero interaction with you. You disgust me and I wish YOU were the ones getting deprted.
Again. You and yours wanted this LOSER to be a heartbeat away from WineBox. Despicable.
LOL - and you still don't see the irony of this compared to sending a frothing mob to the Capital Building and telling them they have to fight like hell for their country otherwise they won't have one?
Waltz is culpable - Trump was innocent on all counts and any allegations were TDS !!
LOL
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Wrong answer again. They didn't create $h*t. They're doing their jobs.
Texas: 36,400 arrests
Florida: over 20,000 arrests
Minnesota: 2600 arrests.
Where are all the violent protests in Texas and Florida? ICE just didn't "create" them yet??
No doubt a nice little "factoid" being spread through MAGA fanboy world ... Probably has absolutely nothing to do with a US citizen being killed by ICE? That couldn't be it could it.
I mean I understand some want to interpret those events differently - but a USA citizen died at the hands of ICE and it was all caught on video. MANY people - especially not the MAGA fanboys - look at the video and see a woman murdered, who was no threat to anyone and trying to get out of the vicinity. . . . Can't imagine THAT would make difference in MN vs FL or TX?
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Until people understand that there is a difference between protesting and obstruction, stupid people are going to continue to be arrested and, in some cases, shot.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Until people understand that there is a difference between protesting and obstruction, stupid people are going to continue to be arrested and, in some cases, shot.
You know there is a long and stories tradition of protest in the USA. Most of it would be classed as Obstruction ... if you go back far enough some of it would even be called an armed insurrection that founded the Nation. Suffragettes, Afghanistan, the peaceful Selma to Montgomery Marches were classified as obstruction .... and on and on and on. A very quick search lists dozens and dozens. Don't act like this is new or different or somehow a "Left/Communist" thing.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Until people understand that there is a difference between protesting and obstruction, stupid people are going to continue to be arrested and, in some cases, shot.
You know there is a long and stories tradition of protest in the USA. Most of it would be classed as Obstruction ... if you go back far enough some of it would even be called an armed insurrection that founded the Nation. Suffragettes, Afghanistan, the peaceful Selma to Montgomery Marches were classified as obstruction .... and on and on and on. A very quick search lists dozens and dozens. Don't act like this is new or different or somehow a "Left/Communist" thing.
What is happening now with the left. Is far from American. It is unamerican in every sense.
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Until people understand that there is a difference between protesting and obstruction, stupid people are going to continue to be arrested and, in some cases, shot.
Now show me any state in this country where obstruction is punishable by death. You use this as some kind of excuse to murder people? How sad.
ICE agents were coming towards a woman and he stepped in between. Maybe by being raised right he felt the need to protect a woman from having her ass beat by a bunch of armed thugs. The result is that he was killed for it. He was willing to take that beating for her instead of standing by and watching her take it. The sentence for that was death.
Murica! Freedumb!
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I believe Forrest Gump summed up both sides very well.
Stupid is as stupid does.
And now stupidity carries the death penalty? If that were true we would be having a lot more funerals. And in case you missed it, stupidity is only carrying the death penalty for one side. Maybe there should be equal consequences for both sides and nobody should be getting killed? Or both side should be........ Never mind.
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What is happening now with the left. Is far from American. It is unamerican in every sense.
All it takes to become a domestic terrorist in America is to be shot to death by ICE. The moment your heart stops beating you are instantly labeled a domestic terrorist. Somehow they think that excuses murder by labeling the victim as the bad guy. In the 1770's you would have been calling our forefathers terrorists. In the 1960's you would have been calling civil rights protestors unAmerican. History has never treated your kind well and this time won't be any different.
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Wrong answer again. They didn't create $h*t. They're doing their jobs.
Texas: 36,400 arrests
Florida: over 20,000 arrests
Minnesota: 2600 arrests.
Where are all the violent protests in Texas and Florida? ICE just didn't "create" them yet??
No doubt a nice little "factoid" being spread through MAGA fanboy world ... Probably has absolutely nothing to do with a US citizen being killed by ICE? That couldn't be it could it.
I mean I understand some want to interpret those events differently - but a USA citizen died at the hands of ICE and it was all caught on video. MANY people - especially not the MAGA fanboys - look at the video and see a woman murdered, who was no threat to anyone and trying to get out of the vicinity. . . . Can't imagine THAT would make difference in MN vs FL or TX?
Pit and MGH say we can't call these crimes preventable. You'll need to have them explain the gymnastics again, I forget how it works. Lefties - please pick the names on this list that had you express your selective outrage. I'll wait.
Preventable tragedies: • Brianna Kelson • Karen Diamond • Billy McKellar • Zabar McKellar • Krishaun McKellar • Kason McKellar • Nicole Gregory • Larisha Sharell Thompson • Jimmy Friesenhahn • Ava Moore • Jorge Gonzalez • Aleksandre Modebadze • Jim McCammon • Camillia Williams • Lesbia Mileth Ramirez-Guerra • Ilias “Louie” Mavros • Adan Lopez Lorenzo • Matias Roblero Emanuel • Debrina Kawam • Grayson Christopher Davis • Angel Samaniego • Evangeline Ubaldo-Moreno • Sebastian Ubaldo-Moreno • Fraime Ubaldo • Marangely Moreno-Santiago • Tiger Gutierrez • Rylan Oncale • Taliyah Crochet • Melody Waldecker • Kaitlyn Weaver • Jocelyn Nungaray • Scott Miller • Matthew Carney • Anilson Mauricio Perez Gomez • Kristie Thibodeaux • Lauryn Ni’Kole Leonard • Laken Riley • Shannon Patricia Jungwirth • Mario Alberto Trejo Estrada • Jorge Alexander Reyes-Jungwirth • Riordan Powell • Melissa Powell • Travis Wolfe • Catalina Valdez Andrade • Merced Andrade Bailon • Ruperto Mondragon Salgado • Jario Hernandez-Sanchez • Carmen Unilda Navas Zuniga • Michael Kunovich • Diana Velazquez Alvarado • Julisa Molina Rivera • Jose Jonathan Casarez • Sonia Argentina Guzman • Daniel Enrique Laso • David Breaux • Karim Abou Najm • Matteo Garcia • Erpharo Gilbert • Limber Lopez Funez • Diane Hill Luckett • Maria Rios • Maris Mareen DiGiovanni • Brent Allan Hallett • Martin Iran Carreon Adame • Ned Byrd • Kayla Marie Hamilton • Sandra Vazquez Ceja • Victor Huerta • Terry Aultman • Brenda Aultman • Erin Simanskis • Rachel Morin • Ruby Garcia • George Levin • Lizbeth Medina • Maria Gonzalez • Aiden Antonio Torres De Paz • Luis Jocsan Nanez Lopez • Hallie Helgeson • Brady Heiling • Ivory Smith • Alex “AJ” Wise Jr. • Mustaffa Muhammad • Nicacio Hernandez Gonzalez • Jon Douglas Ratcliffe • Jacques Price • Amalia Coc Choc de Pec • Estrella Anastasia Pec Coc • Maricela Simon Franco • Christopher Gadd • Jeremy Poou-Caceras • Santiago Jacobo • Ni’Kole Leonard • Anjelica Guadelupe • Amaya Briceño • Aiden Clark • Kimberlee Guillory • Gloria Stephanie Palomec • Paul Osokin • Anya Varfolomeev • Jennifer Ann Morton • Dania Cruz-Mejia • Evangeline Ubaldo-Moreno • Sebastian Ubaldo-Moreno • Christopher Gadd • Dennis Buan • David Hang • Colby Brice Compton • Gretchen Gross • Crecensio Rosas De La Rosa • Corbin Wagner • Francisco Javier Cuellar • Douglas R. Cline • Isidro Cortes • Karina Torres • Moussa Fofana • Andi Lynn Blair • Cheston Edwards • Cindy Goulding • Evelyn Falcon • Miguel Ruiz • Francisco Zamora • Victoria Eileen Harwell
Wrong answer again. They didn't create $h*t. They're doing their jobs.
Texas: 36,400 arrests
Florida: over 20,000 arrests
Minnesota: 2600 arrests.
Where are all the violent protests in Texas and Florida? ICE just didn't "create" them yet??
No doubt a nice little "factoid" being spread through MAGA fanboy world ... Probably has absolutely nothing to do with a US citizen being killed by ICE? That couldn't be it could it.
I mean I understand some want to interpret those events differently - but a USA citizen died at the hands of ICE and it was all caught on video. MANY people - especially not the MAGA fanboys - look at the video and see a woman murdered, who was no threat to anyone and trying to get out of the vicinity. . . . Can't imagine THAT would make difference in MN vs FL or TX?
Why would anyone believe any of those numbers
Because they're true? Just pretend Whoopi Goldberg read them to you.
Or feel free to show some facts that dispute them.
So since it was immigrants instead of Americans that makes the crimes worse?
Here's your problem. ALL OF US are for removing criminals from our society. Where they were born doesn't matter to us. If that was what was happening we would support it.
But that's not what's going on. You trying to rationalize that is a you issue.
Some of us expect more from law enforcement that them acting no better than the criminals.
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The numbers must be true !! Like condoms for Hamas. Like Trillions saved by DOGE. Like Trump ending 8+ wars.
And only in the childlike brain of MAGA Fanboys did MGH say anything about the crimes being preventable or otherwise. Maybe go back and check the BS I called out...
Which was a claim by you that illegal immigration crimes were "easily preventable" . . . Let me know when you have that answer for easily having zero illegal immigrants in the country. Because until that happens your claim is spurious and hyperbolic
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
The numbers must be true !! Like condoms for Hamas. Like Trillions saved by DOGE. Like Trump ending 8+ wars.
And only in the childlike brain of MAGA Fanboys did MGH say anything about the crimes being preventable or otherwise. Maybe go back and check the BS I called out...
Which was a claim by you that illegal immigration crimes were "easily preventable" . . . Let me know when you have that answer for easily having zero illegal immigrants in the country. Because until that happens your claim is spurious and hyperbolic
That's becoming a very popular things these days. Just say something, anything without proving it to begin with. Then place the onus on the the other side to disprove anything and everything you say.
That's not how any of this is supposed to work.
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That's becoming a very popular things these days. Just say something, anything without proving it to begin with. Then place the onus on the the other side to disprove anything and everything you say.
That's not how any of this is supposed to work.
So is ignoring the substance. You two would sit here and argue for days if there was any chance the arrests in Texas were 15 less than what I stated.
But NEITHER will address the fact that there are well over TEN TIMES more arrests in one state - with ZERO instances of violence - than Minnesota.
Nor will you discuss the (p)resident that let 15 million cross the border unaccounted for and created this whole mess in the first place. You wouldn't even address responsibility the entire time the disaster was taking place. You blamed republicans and congress and said there was nothing that could be done.
Then when border crossings went to virtually zero on day one you just mosey along like you never made those outrageous statements.
This is literally why nobody posts here anymore. Not many are interested in arguing second-grade b.s. with chicks with their hair on fire.
Nobody anticipated a king would be voted in who would rule with a pen.
And there is still no change in the actual immigration laws in this country. An executive order is a temporary band aid that can be overturned the minute he leaves office. We were looking for a solution. Not a band aid.
You know, actual immigration laws that were approved by congress.
I didn't post this. You did.
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Then prove them wrong.
Anti-ICE protester arrested in Orlando for assault
I don't need or want to argue with the numbers. They could be true. Tx and CA are going to lead the pack by a mile. The post was in reference to why or how there could be the violent protests in MN when there were so fewer (by several factors) of arrests in MN. I pointed to the killing of a US citizen as the single biggest factor. . . . No comment came back.
You posted something about Waltz being culpable because of his reaction to ICE, and I highlighted the hypocrisy of thinking Trump is not guilty of incitement on Jan 6th telling an angry crowd who were fed a deliberate diet of lies about a stolen election and then told to march on the Capital and fight like hell otherwise they wouldn't have a country.... Again no comment came back.
On the very small number of arrests in MN and the violence... As well as looking at Waltz... I'd be looking at a couple of things ....
With such small numbers of agents and interactions .....
How could ICE kill 2 US citizens in highly questionable circumstances where agents can easily be second guessed as to whether they were in danger. That's not coincidence.
Given the police chiefs statement of non white officers being stopped and asked for id in ways that violated the constitution.... A racist practice experienced more widespread by the MN community .... And given the small number of ICE agents .... Wonder how much wider spread these things are happening.... Everywhere.
Given the ICE agents well documented recent trend of photographing citizens who video ICE agents over zealous operations and then doing a drive by past that person's house in intimidatory tactics .... Wonder how much of that is going on too.
But that's just me. I mean others are free to continue spamming SM posts from their echo chamber.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
But that's just me. I mean others are free to continue spamming SM posts from their echo chamber.
I was literally clicking "quote" to chop your post and respond until I read your last line. Once again, I'll pass; and probably keep passing for the foreseeable future.
Your holier-than-thou b.s. claiming every one that doesn't see things your way is the product of an "echo chamber", and only you and yours are capable of original or critical thought is beyond laughable. Anyone that doesn't co-sign every talking point is a "MAGA Fanboy". Your little catchphrase-veiled-insults are infantile.
You spit some of the sickest vitriol ever composed in these parts; and demean anyone that doesn't toe the line. And believe me, anyone that sits there with their eyes crossed trying to make sense of 80% of your posts, knows I'm using the word "compose" lightly.
In case you haven't noticed I'm not what most people claim a typical liberal is. I'm a supporter of gun rights with at least reasonable gun control. I own multiple firearms. A former hunter, fisherman and outdoorsman. I still would be to a much greater extent if my health allowed it.
I'm not a big fan of bean sprouts nor am I vegan.
I don't run around like a lot of liberals searching for some reason to be offended or outraged. The words snowflake and triggered certainly do not apply to me. I was raised by a master sergeant and brought up to have very thick skin.
I'm not a huge fan of either side in politics. The Democrats seem to cater to the fringe of the party rather than concentrate on their main voting block. It's not that many of their policies don't help the average American, it's that their messaging doesn't reflect that.The exact same thing can be said about Republicans only in their case, there's a much larger portion who are MAGA. They have a much higher percentage IMO in the extreme category.
I don't think we are all that much different when it comes right down to it. I don't believe you're any happier in the extreme direction the republican party has taken under trump but maybe I'm wrong.
If I'm right it simply boils down to one thing. We are both stuck with trying to choose the lesser of the two evils and we just disagree on which party that is in its current form.
You're comments were no problem. It takes a lot more than that to really bother me. I mean we do things like this all the time. If it really had a negative impact on either of us we would have stopped before now.
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